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Was Nick Berg a US spy?
Web India ^ | May 30, 2004 | IST

Posted on 05/30/2004 1:28:05 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

Nick Berg, the American beheaded by terrorists was allegedly working in Iraq as a spy for American intelligence.

It is suspected by some Washington insiders that Berg's links with espionage may have led to his gruesome execution that was filmed on a videotape by terrorists.

"Washington is rife with rumors that Berg had a connection to U.S. intelligence. Fuelling the suspicion is that he had Arab language capabilities and he's said to be a computer genius," The National Enquirer quoted a source as saying.

"Someone who was prepared to brave the dangers of traveling to Iraq on an apparently legitimate business trip would obviously be of great interest to American intelligence for what he could find out.

There's also a lot of suspicion that maybe Nick unwittingly got sucked into spy games that ultimately cost him his life," added the source.

Berg's family has claimed that the 26-year-old Pennsylvanian had travelled to Iraq to find work for his radio tower business company, Prometheus Methods Tower Service. But it has been revealed that there is no evidence at all that Berg's company actually existed.

According to the report, Berg was arrested by Iraqi police on March 24 and questioned repeatedly by FBI agents before he was released on April 6. The agents wanted to know how his e-mail password had reached a September 11 terror suspect Zacarias Moussaoui.

However, in a bizarre disclosure that may have led to his death, Berg even confessed to one of his friends in Baghdad that there was a belief he was an agent of some sort, adds the report.

Berg apparently tried to make his way out of the country on April 10 but was captured by terrorists connected to Al Qaeda associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. (ANI)


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If he was working for American intelligence, this definitely rules out any connection with Moore. (Sarcasm off) Having said that, is this the line coming out now to cover Moore? That Berg was a US spy? I don't think Moore would have interviewd him if he knew he were a US spy.
1 posted on 05/30/2004 1:28:05 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar
Nick Berg, the American beheaded by terrorists was allegedly working in Iraq as a spy for American intelligence.

ALL Non-Islamic infidels are automatically,.....considered as 'enemy'.....'spies'.

Welcome to the 'Islamic Controlled'.....areas of the globe!

(All infidels 'die')

/sarcasm

2 posted on 05/30/2004 1:34:53 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Rennes Templar

My answer: No, but I think the AlQ mob thought he was, because he cosied up to them.


3 posted on 05/30/2004 1:39:03 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Rennes Templar

So I guess, then it is not as bad that the Islamists beheaded him in a gruesome way. But if we strip TERRORISTS naked, then it doesn't matter that they are terrorists, we still shouldn't treat them that way, right?

The media is amazing. They are trying to make excuses for the terrorists.


4 posted on 05/30/2004 1:40:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Berg was a complete unknown. There is no reason for Moore to have known he existed except if he worked for Moore.


5 posted on 05/30/2004 1:45:54 PM PDT by marron
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To: Rennes Templar

And we would send a Jew into that country to . . . what, pave the way for his success?


6 posted on 05/30/2004 1:47:15 PM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: Rennes Templar; Howlin; ~Kim4VRWC's~; calcowgirl; PhiKapMom; Objective Reality; FL_engineer

I was just gonna ask--did they get their information from Michael Moore, maybe?


7 posted on 05/30/2004 1:51:27 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Rennes Templar

There was an FR thread yesterday that speculated that Michael Moore might have hired Nick Berg to do work/filming/contacts in Iraq.

That sort of makes better sense than Nick Berg being a US government agent.


8 posted on 05/30/2004 1:53:59 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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I agree. Nick Berg may have worked with Moore, hence the "private" viewing of the film clip for Berg's family.


9 posted on 05/30/2004 2:03:59 PM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: Rennes Templar

What about the Zaccarias Moussaoui connection?
Me thinks not a spy but a lover of islam with ties to al Qaeda that was sacrificed to create an uproar in the US.

Flame away!! I can take it. ;^)


10 posted on 05/30/2004 2:09:23 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: Rennes Templar

OK, Even if Berg is James Bond 007, his Dad is still an A$$hole!


11 posted on 05/30/2004 2:14:57 PM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn incestuous gay whales!)
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To: cgk

bump!


12 posted on 05/30/2004 2:15:01 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Rennes Templar
One interesting point is that the Enquirer has a story saying he might have been a spy too.

They get trashed here by people who remember the way they were in the 80's. But they have lots of well placed sources, and are more thorough in their fact checking than the mainstream media. I have actually dealt with them on on story that never got published, and they wouldn't print it because they wanted more proof. The regular media would have printed it with far less information than what the Enquirer had.
13 posted on 05/30/2004 2:17:10 PM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: marron

Moore had finished his film long before Berg was killed. Berg wasn't there for Moore.


14 posted on 05/30/2004 2:18:16 PM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: Rightly Biased

I am going to put on my tinfoil tiara and say this, there may have been a connection between Berg and Moussaoui. Moore heard about it, possible through the elder Berg. Moore sought him out for the interview. The unthinkable happened and Nick Berg was murdered by those evil bastards.


15 posted on 05/30/2004 2:18:49 PM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: sharktrager

You haven't kept up, then. Moore bragged on his website that he had three camera crews undercover in Iraq to turn up dirt on the war and/or the military.

Think about it. Berg was so inept, it was doubtless he worked for one of our agencies. Very doubtful.


16 posted on 05/30/2004 2:21:12 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: AngieGOP

I do not believe in coincedence. "All things happen for a reason", that is what I believe. The foundations of my belief go deep into my past and my religion. Nick Berg had an al Queda connection and the evil scum mudered him because they know no loyalty.


17 posted on 05/30/2004 2:26:57 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: MizSterious

I have kept up. Crews in Iraq has nothing to do with the fact the timing of Berg's kidnapping and death does not fit with the timing of Moore's film.

If Berg worked for Moore, it was not at the time he was grabbed, and that is not why he was still there.


18 posted on 05/30/2004 2:35:46 PM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: abner

If he were working for the CIA, he would have better cover, would not be American, and would not have an Israeli stamp in his passport.

I read that Berg was in partnership with an Iraqi named Aziz who had lived in Philadelphia for 20 years. Aziz was a criminal who sold crack for the Russian mafia, among other crimes. I see a Russian mafia connection here.

This Aziz was an important member of an iraqi emigre organization in Annandale, Virginia that some on the left claim was cosy with Bush. Aziz's name and one of his aliases is on their website. The left is anxious to use this connection to tar Bush and anti-Saddam emigre organizations with drug-trafficking.

This organization advocated overthrowing Saddam.
Perhaps Aziz used this organization to give himself respectibility; perhaps it was a front with another agenda which they used to worm their way into government circles. Hard to know. Their website is not very maintained.

The Russian mafia has a strong presence in Israel because many of these criminals are Jewish. It is likely that they are supplying combatants with weapons and selling drugs.

Perhaps Aziz was a front man for the Russian mafia. Berg may have been useful because of his American passport and his Jewish name. Some article claimed that Berg's killers were wearing gold jewelry. This might be the Russian mafia, but they would probably operate through Iraqis like Aziz in Iraq. Someone should arrest Aziz and see what he knows. Berg was way out of his league.

Here is an article with the details:

BERG MET WITH SHADY IRAQI
By WILLIAM BUNCH
bunchw@phillynews.com
In interviews with several news organizations in Baghdad, Aziz claimed he may have been the last friend to speak with Berg before his kidnapping and beheading by terrorists possibly linked to the al Qaeda network. The radio-tower contractor had come back to Baghdad after a 13-day detainment in Mosul, only to disappear again on April 10.

Aziz said that on April 10 Berg "surprised me by calling me at 9 or 10, to say that he found some friend to travel with to Jordan." Berg said he was en route, but Aziz doesn't know who he was with or what kind of vehicle they were driving. "He said they were nice people. I told him to have a nice trip."

After living in Philadelphia for two decades, Aziz arrived in Baghdad sometime last year. A friend said he left for Iraq before the government moved on the deportation case.

Here in America, Aziz was the highly visible spokesman for a group he'd founded called the Iraqi American Council and appeared frequently on major media outlets like Fox News Channel calling for the military ouster of Saddam Hussein.

Aziz' outfront role also included speaking at pre-war, pro-troop rallies. It continued even after it was reported the inner-city electronic entrepreneur had pleaded guilty in the crack-vial case in 1994 and later had legal run-ins involving stolen computers and bootlegged CDs.

His partnership with Berg deepens the web of intrigue surrounding Berg's time in Iraq, his detainment by U.S.-backed authorities, his disapperance and his videotaped beheading by masked thugs claiming revenge for the Abu Ghraib prisoner torture.

Before traveling to Iraq twice this year, Berg had been investigated by the FBI because in 1999 - while at the University of Oklahoma - an associate of jailed Sept. 11 suspect Zacarias Moussaoui had obtained Berg's e-mail password.

Attorney General John Ashcroft said Berg was cleared in that probe, but the apparent coincidence may have prolonged the Mosul detainment of Berg, who was interviewed three times by FBI agents before he was released on April 6.

Officials have told the Daily News that Berg also aroused suspicion because he was an unescorted American carrying a copy of the Koran and what they called "anti-Semitic" literature. Berg, who is Jewish, also told friends that his passport contained an Israel visitor's stamp.

Now, add the name of Aziz K. Aziz to Berg's strange Iraqi odyssey. Efforts to contact Aziz in Baghdad by phone and e-mail over the weekend were unsuccessful.

Aziz told the Associated Press that Berg had contacted him by e-mail sometime after attending a two-day conference in Virginia on business opportunities in Iraq last December. Aziz agreed to give him some space in an office he had in Baghdad to form a partnership seeking communications work.

Berg refers to Aziz in an e-mail to friends on Jan. 18. "I've found a fairly competent and reliable office manager," he wrote. "He's actually been living in Philadelphia the last 20 years and just came back - so he's similarly out of his element."

Berg's first efforts to win radio-tower repair work were unsuccessful, and he was robbed on the streets of Baghdad.

"I was always pressuring him to keep a low profile, but he ignored all my caution and advice," Aziz said. "Berg kept a high profile, wandering around late at night or took public transport. Sometimes he got upset, looked at me in such a way, or said, 'You're not my dad' or 'I'm an adult, I can make my own decision." "

Aziz said that Berg left his equipment with him during a short trip back to the U.S. When he came back, the two spent an hour climbing tall buildings at Abu Ghraib, site of the infamous prison. Aziz said they re-recorded measurements that were in his stolen notebook.

The next day, Aziz said, Berg called to say that he was going to the northern city of Mosul, where the brother of Berg's uncle lives. "He invited me to go with him, but I declined because it was dangerous," said Aziz.

It's not known whether Aziz ever told Berg of his controversial past.

In 1993, about a decade after fleeing Saddam's Iraq for America, Aziz was in the electronics business when he was one of 25 people charged with distributing some 100 million crack vials on the East Coat. Prosecutors said that Aziz, who lived in Northeast Philadelphia, was tied to a network run by a Soviet immigrant named Valery Sigal. Most in the ring were immigrants from Russia or the former Eastern Bloc.

Aziz claimed he didn't know the vials were going to drug dealers. but he pled guilty. He was sentenced to three years of probation, fined $3,000, and forced to forfeit $17,673 in profits.

He was arrested again in May 2001, on charges that the chain of electronics stores he owns in Philadelphia was selling counterfeited compact discs. A judge dismissed that case for lack of evidence last March. The Inquirer also reported he received probation in a 1997 case for selling stolen computers to undercover cops. Current records show he owns a cell-phone firm called Page One Communications with a number of outlets in Philadelphia.

Aziz went by several names in Philadelphia. Sometimes called "Joe Aziz," he started calling himself Aziz al-Taee in the late 1990s, around the time he formed the Iraqi American Council. He said al-Taee was his tribal name and - in speaking out against Saddam - he was worried about relatives in Baghdad.

The group has an address in Washington's Virginia suburbs and a national board of directors, but there were differing claims of how many members or how much clout the group really had.

In December 2002, another key member of the Iraqi American Council - a California engineer named Bassam Ridha Al-Hulsaini - was reportedly one of 15 Iraqis flown to Washington by the State Department for two days of "media training" under a project known as Future of Iraq. A couple of months later, al-Hulsaini addressed a "pro-troops" rally in San Francisco, declaring that "The Iraq people are waiting for this liberation."

It's not clear whether Aziz received "media training," but the handsome, nattily dressed ex-pat, now 40, probably didn't need it. He addressed similar rallies in Valley Forge, St. Louis and Washington, where he claimed Hussein's henchmen killed both his cousin and brother-in-law. The rallies were launched by Clear Channel syndicated talk-radio host Glenn Beck, and the media giant sponsored many of them.

A friend and fellow council member - Ahmad Kuba of Florida - said yesterday that Aziz left for Baghdad last summer, before any deportation proceedings began.

"There are no cell phones in Iraq," Aziz told a reporter in May 2003. "That's the way to the future."

Now, Aziz is now getting publicity for monitoring the final cell-phone calls of his slain partner. He said this weekend he understands Berg's phone was used as recently as April 19, and that three calls were made that day to Jordan, to the United Arab Emirates and to a local number.

"He could still have been alive."

Original Article via Philly.com







19 posted on 05/30/2004 2:40:18 PM PDT by Snapple
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To: Dog

FYI


20 posted on 05/30/2004 2:40:35 PM PDT by Jemian (Alabama has the best politicians money can buy.)
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