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NYPD no-show at immig bust
New York Daily News ^ | May 26, 2004 | MICHELE McPHEE

Posted on 05/26/2004 1:19:33 AM PDT by sarcasm

City cops are in a nasty fight with the feds over manpower and money that boiled over with the NYPD pulling out of a massive federal deportation sweep aimed at criminal immigrants yesterday.

Federal sources say the cops backed out late last week because of politics, but cops say Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly was infuriated by the Department of Homeland Security's our-way-or-the-highway demand that the police devote 185 cops to the operation.

Police sources said the force is just too strapped to give up that many officers while spending about $200 million a year to fight terror, with 1,000 cops assigned to anti-terror duties every day - while the federal government foots the bill for less than half.

"Commissioner Kelly withheld the NYPD's participation only after our offer to participate on a reduced scale was rebuffed," said Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne.

"We made a counterproposal that was rejected," Browne said. "They can't come in here and demand this many cops, and say it's this way or no way."

As many as 500 Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, U.S. marshals and state police launched raids in the city, Long Island and upstate yesterday targeting about 150 felons, including murderers and drug dealers, who have ignored deportation orders, federal sources said.

Federal sources said the NYPD was expected to be in on the sweep and was part of planning meetings until as recently as May 18, the day before Kelly and Mayor Bloomberg slammed Washington at the federal 9/11 hearings for failing to support New York.

The sources said the cops never offered even reduced help, and pulled out because City Hall is angry at the feds over terror funding. They also suggested the police were worried about how their participation would look to city immigrants.

"We would've taken any bodies," one immigration agent said yesterday. "We wanted to work with the NYPD. It's their city. We work great with them and [City Hall] pulls them out? That's bull----t."

The police denied City Hall had any role in the pullout, or that the NYPD did not want to be involved in an immigration roundup. "It was the police commissioner's decision alone, based on police resources and operational issues," Browne said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; dhs; immigrantlist; nypd

1 posted on 05/26/2004 1:19:33 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm

It is unfortunate to see the strife between levels of government. But ultimately, it is the feds fault....they step on toes all the time. I would love to see south western states (Arizona, Texas) start guarding their southern state borders against illegal immigrants. The feds would have hissy fits...but not enough hissy fits to do their job themselves.

The NYPD is so hesitent to offend illegal immigrants because there are so many. There are so many because the feds haven't done their job.


2 posted on 05/26/2004 4:02:46 AM PDT by blanknoone (I voted for before I voted against it, didn't show up for the vote except once, but left too early)
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To: sarcasm

The next 9/whatever commission will no doubt feast on this episode.


3 posted on 05/26/2004 4:07:15 AM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: sarcasm

New York should have had no trouble supplying 180 cops, They have probably 10,000 police officers in that city, all they wouild have had to do was get them out of the donut shops for an hour or two. Police have Jurisdictional disputes all the time with the Feds, Maybe they should get Ms. Gorelick to work out a deal like she did with the CIA and the FBI. Say what you like but somebody got hardheaded here.


4 posted on 05/26/2004 4:09:43 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..

ping


5 posted on 05/26/2004 9:10:33 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

This country is in one he!! of a mess due to illegal aliens.


6 posted on 05/26/2004 9:46:45 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: sarcasm
Let's see, NYC can't help round up illegal migrants. I hate to remind the NYC police/mayor/taxpayers that the US taxpayer (not just the NY/NYC taxpayer) has paid out the wahzoo for the 9-11 terrorists attack/cleanup not to mention that the billions spent to combat further terrorist attacts in all the US including NYC.

I agree the Feds step on some toes, but NYC has to take some responsibility too. (200 million a year is a little over 1/2 million a day or approximately 20 cents per resident a day)

7 posted on 05/26/2004 10:21:45 AM PDT by Militiaman7 (Mr. President why are we pussyfooting around with these fanatics. Take the gloves off!)
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To: sarcasm
City cops are in a nasty fight with the feds over manpower and money that boiled over with the NYPD pulling out of a massive federal deportation sweep aimed at criminal immigrants yesterday.
Federal sources say the cops backed out late last week because of politics, but cops say Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly was infuriated by the Department of Homeland Security's our-way-or-the-highway demand that the police devote 185 cops to the operation.

No mention of Union problems although I would bet that had something to do with it.

New York has been spoiled. They now want everyone else to pay their bills.

8 posted on 05/26/2004 11:36:00 AM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: blanknoone
Both sides of this seem to have a point.

In the meantime the frikin illegals are laughing their way out of town to disappear for another 4-5-6 years, scott free.

GREAT.

9 posted on 05/26/2004 11:43:58 AM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: sarcasm

Have we heard any comment on this issue from the revered junior senator Clinton from NY? Of course not, it's not in her range of interest.


10 posted on 05/26/2004 12:21:11 PM PDT by janetgreen (RED ALERT to President Bush - WE HAVE BEEN INVADED.)
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To: sarcasm
...targeting about 150 felons, including murderers and drug dealers, who have ignored deportation orders, federal sources said.....They also suggested the police were worried about how their participation would look to city immigrants....

So targetting felons, including murderers, drug dealers, etc would look bad to city immigrants? That means the police believe all the immigrants want to see murderers and drug dealers getting by with the kinds of crimes they do --- they don't have a very high opinion of the city immigrants obviously.

11 posted on 05/26/2004 5:16:24 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; ntnychik; onyx; dixiechick2000; Smartass


It has been exposed that NYC funneled multi-billions of US taxpayers dollars funded by Congress to corporations and obsure groups and individuals well outside of Manhattan and any area affected by 911.

NYC Mayor Bloomberg knew this allowed this to happen.

Now Bloomie cries for more bucks from overburdened US taxpayers in Ohio, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, California, Oregon, Missouri, and other states that got ripped off to pay for Jersey Girl Bimbo's new Mercedes and Florida luxury beachfront condos after they won the 911 LOTTO.

Even radical Commie attorney Ron Kuby of WABC 770am NYC's 5am-10am "Curtiss & Kuby Show" said he was shocked at being able to get a $4000 federal payment and refused additional claims and more 911-Fed-Bucks being pushed on him by NYC bureaucrats.

Bloomberg also renegged on his sworn promise to start NYC employees co-operating with feds.

Koch, Dinks, and even Rudy refused to co-operate with the INS, Border Patrol, FBI, IRS, CIA and ordered the NYPD, NYFD, public school employees, and other city employees to leave illegal aliens alone in NYC.

Result:

WTC 1993

WTC 9-11-2000

NYC is turning off American bigtime.

Wise up or lose out!


12 posted on 05/26/2004 5:40:24 PM PDT by devolve (````````````````` [..........................Hello from Sunny South Florida.........................)
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To: blanknoone
The NYPD is so hesitent to offend illegal immigrants because there are so many. There are so many because the feds haven't done their job.

And the immigration problem will only get better the longer this political posturing goes on. </sarcasm>

13 posted on 05/27/2004 3:28:48 AM PDT by Ron H. (www..RC-MC.org)
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To: sgtbono2002

I seem to recall that there is a push on in NY to permit some form of "legalized voting" for undocumented (illegal) immigrants. No wonder the locals didn't want to offend any of those poor people. Meanwhile, if a loved family member gets murdered, raped or robbed by one of those criminal (illegal) aliens these two sides can just point accusatory fingers and blame each other for not doing their jobs.


14 posted on 05/27/2004 3:36:45 AM PDT by Ron H. (www..RC-MC.org)
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To: sarcasm

bump


15 posted on 05/27/2004 3:41:42 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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