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Have We Lost the Warrior Spirit?
National Anxiety Center ^ | May 12, 2004 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 05/12/2004 10:32:04 AM PDT by presidio9

I seriously doubt that any of the detainees in the jails in Iraq have ever read, nor even heard of the Geneva Convention. When I was in the Army, no one ever devoted a minute to discussing it, but maybe things have changed. These rules of conduct for war certainly are unknown to the terrorists who have been waging war on the United States of America.

There clearly were abuses, maybe even criminal acts committed against some of the Iraqi detainees, but the huge uproar over these isolated events is designed to (1) undermine homefront and military morale, and support for the war, and (2) to bolster the resistance to the creation of a democratic nation, Iraq, in the midst of a region that has no other true democracy other than Israel. We seem to have instantly forgotten the killing and mutilation of the bodies of US contractors and the constant danger that confronts our fighting forces. We pay scant attention to the endless bombings and murders perpetrating against the Israelis.

All of the major problems of the world these days come from the Middle East. We either change that region through force of arms and through diplomacy or none of us will ever sleep peacefully in our beds.

I have not liked the American reaction and I have not liked seeing our President publicly apologize for the acts of a few soldiers. From a public relations point of view, I suppose this was necessary, but I don’t recall hearing anything from the Arab press over the three decades that Saddam was jailing, torturing, and killing millions of Iraqis. This is the same Saddam whose cousin, dubbed "Chemical Ali", gassed thousands of Kurds and used chemical warfare during the eight-year war with Iran. And people are still saying there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Except for those extraordinary young men and women who volunteered to defend us, I fear we have lost our warrior spirit, the kind of beliefs that permit us to face danger and defeat it. Have we forgotten that the same kind of people attacking our soldiers in Iraq were the ones that attacked us on 9-11?

War is a monstrous undertaking. Americans have fought their share of wars and, most notably, have not done so in quest of an empire. In the last century, we fought to preserve freedom. In this century, we are fighting to expand it against one of its most ancient and ruthless enemies, the Islamic Jihad.

Americans need to remember how we accomplished the end of World War II. We destroyed two Japanese cities with A-bombs in order to secure that nation’s surrender and in Europe we reduced the cities of Nazi Germany to rubble. That war cost the lives of an estimated sixty million people around the world. We made the sacrifices necessary to protect the world against two vile dictatorships. We did what was necessary to end it.

It is the warrior spirit that enabled the first Americans to fight the greatest military power of its time in order to found a new nation; we survived a Civil War and we emerged victorious from two World Wars. We stymied enemies in Korea and everywhere else other than Vietnam. We lost Vietnam because of too much political interference with the military and because Americans had grown weary of the conflict.

This nation gave up the notion of a citizen army after the Vietnam conflict in favor of a volunteer army. Now, in Iraq, that army, plus our National Guard units and reserves may not to be sufficient to meet the challenge. If you wonder why, just think back to the eight years of the Clinton-Gore administration that did its best to decimate our fighting forces on the land, the sea and in the air.

If you watch C-Span, you can listen to generals of those units tell Congress they are undermanned, they are not battle ready. There are plans to expand the numbers of our active military forces because they are insufficient to meet our worldwide commitments. It will take three years. If we were to announce tomorrow that we will pulling our troops out of the many nations we protect and assist, the outcry would be heard from every capital.

Meanwhile, our troops are on the Iraq battlefield, sometimes driving humvees that don’t even have doors, let along armor plating. They are being picked off in small, but steady numbers by mortars, roadside improvised explosives, and by small arms. Americans are watching this war on television and the news for weeks now has been bad. Despite the fact that we are having considerable success fighting the militia of the radical Shi’ite Muqtada al-Sadr, that news is drowned out by the PR fiasco. Thanks to the abysmal press coverage of the war there is the feeling we are bogged down. The press does not let a single death pass unnoted.

There is yet another, virtually unspoken factor. Here at home, Americans are growing increasingly fearful of another terror attack. Forget about whether such an attack would politically "benefit" either Bush or Kerry. It would not take much to plunge us back to the days following 9-11. The economy was severely harmed. Our airlines are still in big trouble. It took two years before consumers began to feel safe enough to spend money.

And this war is costing us about $60 billion a year while Congress continues to spend money on a whole range of other things that includes a level of pork-barrel projects that defy the imagination. This Congress is one of the worst in decades. Both sides of the aisle are selling us down the river.

The war is taking place in Iraq and Afghanistan these days, but it’s here, too. Having accepted the challenge of ending the threat to this nation and the world, are we losing our nerve?

A new memorial to those who sacrificed their lives in World War II is a vivid reminder of what the last big war required of us. We call them "the greatest generation", but will we—that’s all of us--be able to pick up the banner of freedom and fight the greatest enemy of this new century and defeat it?

In November, we will vote for either the President who committed us to the war after we were attacked on 9-11 or a candidate who, from week to week, can’t decide if he is for or against it. If Kerry’s track record means anything, he is against it. If Kerry wins, it will mean our warrior spirit, our willingness to fight for freedom will have been abandoned.


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1 posted on 05/12/2004 10:32:05 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
"It is almost a law of history that the same wealth that generates a civilization announces its decay. For wealth produce ease as well as art; it softens a people to the ways of luxury and peace and invites invasion from stronger arms and hungrier mouths."

Durant, Story or Civilization
2 posted on 05/12/2004 10:35:15 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: presidio9
No!
3 posted on 05/12/2004 10:36:01 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: presidio9
"but the huge uproar over these isolated events is designed to (1) undermine homefront and military morale, and support for the war, and (2) to bolster the resistance to the creation of a democratic nation, Iraq, in the midst of a region that has no other true democracy other than Israel."

Exactly. Seems we have a number of those in this country who like giving aid and comfort to the enemy. I hope every one of them realizes the role they payed in Berg's beheading. I doubt they'll ever sleep peacefully again. (But I also doubt it will make them change their ways. Darkness does not understand light.)

4 posted on 05/12/2004 10:37:38 AM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: presidio9
"I seriously doubt that any of the detainees in the jails in Iraq have ever read, nor even heard of the Geneva Convention. When I was in the Army, no one ever devoted a minute to discussing it, "

I wonder when the author was in the Army. I certainly got info on the Geneva Convenion, and in basic training in the USAF in 1965.

Let's hear from the other vets on FR: Did you receive any training on the Geneva Convention during your time in the service?
5 posted on 05/12/2004 10:38:59 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: presidio9
bump
6 posted on 05/12/2004 10:39:08 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Freemeorkillme
Yes, or rather, we have subdued in order to cater to public opinion and so, as Durant so correctly stated, we have begun announcing it's decay. For we believe that what the world thinks about us is more important that us.
7 posted on 05/12/2004 10:39:24 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: presidio9
NATIONAL ANXIETY CENTER?

Is that a department of the DNC?.............
8 posted on 05/12/2004 10:39:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (WHY ARE YOU LOOKING HERE?................)
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To: Scythian
Well quoted...

For some of us the choice is obvious... we are in a fight not of our own choosing... We have succeeded in seizing the initiative and have made our enemy's land's (Afghanistan, Iraq, and ?) the battlefield. We can choose to press home our advantage or we can recoil in distaste (horror) at the ramifications (collateral damage)the fight. If we back off they will seize on our weakness and attack us everywhere, but most especially at home where they will undermine our political, economic, social institutions through terror. You can be assured that our foes will not be in the least concerned about the innocents who die in Los Angeles, Atlanta, or Detroit. We are at a decision point and the option really is "Your place or mine?".
9 posted on 05/12/2004 10:47:45 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: presidio9
The left will never let us win another war.

Lets look at our record since the WWII victory:
Korea- Draw
Vietnam- Loss
Grenada/Panama- Not relevent
Gulf War I - Incomplete
Gulf War II- TBD but trend is not good.

The reason we are not winning is that we will not do what is necessary to win. We CAN do it, but we won't. The bleeding heart left is always sympathetic to our enemies and hostile to us. They cause doubt about our motives, goal and objectives. They demoralize and nitpick every action. They scream about every casualty, even the enemy's. They see every action we take as immoral while the enemy is moral. They make me sick.
10 posted on 05/12/2004 10:47:54 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: BadAndy
Lets look at our record since the WWII victory:
Korea- Draw
Vietnam- Loss
Grenada/Panama- Not relevent
Gulf War I - Incomplete
Gulf War II- TBD but trend is not good.

Re Panama, we won then gave it back.
Are you forgetting Kosovo?

11 posted on 05/12/2004 10:54:39 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: presidio9
We are shopkeepers who naively believe that dollars can win the world and that Thomas L. Freakman's "fast world" will banish all war forever. Our minds cannot grasp the war we are in, and are too afraid to declare. We rely on a volunteer army and know not how to win conclusively. We believe treaties will protect us and that no one will ever try to wipe an entire country off the face of the earth. We are in for a rude awakening.
12 posted on 05/12/2004 10:56:17 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: BadAndy
Even WW2 was, at the end, full of backpeddling. We failed to force the USSR to live up to their end of the bargain, and ultimately lost China to the Communists. Oh, and we did something even more dumb - we put our faith in pie crust treaties and signed up to sponsor the UN!
13 posted on 05/12/2004 10:58:52 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: presidio9
No, but it's being endangered.
14 posted on 05/12/2004 11:01:29 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: presidio9; MineralMan; Scythian; Freemeorkillme; MEGoody; VOA; Red Badger
I don't think the answer is as simple as yes or no, and hence can be quite amorphous depending on how one approaches it. However one thing is for certain, there has been a divergence from the type of inner resolution (not strength, but resolution ....I'll explain) that was prevalent in generations before (for example the 'greatest generation').

And let me explain. If you delve into the way things were back then, every person was under great danger (as we are today), and the perception of the danger was great and immediate (which lacks today ....most people know there is danger, but they do not perceive it as present and immediate). 9-11 for example was a great shock for many ....not only due to the people murdered but also stemming from the fact that such an attack occured in the Homeland. That was just not 'supposed to happen,' and consequently it rattled many.

The interesting thing is what happened after. Many people still see the inherent danger and that the enemies against America still wait outside (and inside) the gates, but many seem to have fallen back into a stupor ....feeling safe and distant again. The danger is once again perceived to be 'outside' our borders .....in some forsaken sands in Arabia. my opinion that we still have the inner strength of prior generations. What is lacking is the inner resolution, and this is primarily due to a medley of factors like political correctness and the fact many perceive the danger as being 'out there.' If you look at Israel, India and Russia you will notice that one thing that marks all of them is they are thoroughly anti-PC. When they retaliate against terrorists they do not give a darn what the international media will say, or what the liberal groups within their borders will rant. Think of Israel using Apache helicopters in the streets, or bulldozing houses that harbored terrorists. Now imagine if the US did something similar ....an Apache helicopter for example straffing a terrorist cell in Michigan? Anathema!

The reason those countries are like that (Israel, India, Russia) is because in each case the threat of terrorism is in close proximity, and immediate. There are no oceans to protect them from the worst Jihadism has to offer, hence the attacks happen at a much greater frequency than they do here. I have the pleasure of having several adult Israeli friends, all who (obviously had to have) served in the military, and the way they look at things is amazingly bereft of sutble nuances and all that Pc crap one finds here. They are great guys and all, really good family friends, but if you look into their eyes you notice a no-nonsence glimmer somewhere in there that reminds one that it would not be prudent to sneak up on the guy from behind.

Anyways, succinctly put i don't think we lost our inner strength, just our inner resolution. We are like a lion that has lived in a zoo for too long .....we still have the strength of muscle and sinew, but the rawness and ferocity has abated. It can still be resurrected (as the Japanese found out in WW2), but it appears it will take much more than 9-11 to do so, sadly.

15 posted on 05/12/2004 11:02:46 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: presidio9
At least it took the bombing of several train cars to make the Spanish turn and run.
Thanks to CBS and the Dan Rather clique of the media we are being steam rolled by the leftists view of the world.
That knife that I felt shoved in my ribs in Vietnam by Safter, Rather and Bradley is still carving away at our people in uniform.
The death of a young businessman in Iraq is sad but these sorry pieces of human filth will play it up to be the act of a legal court.
16 posted on 05/12/2004 11:06:35 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Scythian
...from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again into bondage.

-Alexander Tyler, 1750
17 posted on 05/12/2004 11:08:50 AM PDT by PISANO (We MUST annihilate the enemy and we must do it NOW!)
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To: Scythian
Ping for later comment
18 posted on 05/12/2004 11:09:56 AM PDT by M1Tanker (Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: PISANO
...from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again into bondage.

Man, how true, I should have been born in say 1800 instead of at the end of the cycle.
19 posted on 05/12/2004 11:16:50 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: BadAndy; Carry_Okie
PSSST! We won the Cold War.

Pass it on.
20 posted on 05/12/2004 11:22:13 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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