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How did the Kerry cookies crumble? (Kerry stole a business idea)
.hillnews ^ | January 28, 2004 | Sam Dealey

Posted on 05/06/2004 7:49:29 AM PDT by dennisw

How did the Kerry cookies crumble? By Sam Dealey

To hear Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) tell it, his brief foray into the cookie business in the late 1970s gives him a leg up on the concerns of small-business owners. Earlier this month, the Democratic presidential candidate introduced his small-business program with vignettes from his own cookie-making experience.

Yet all that experience kind of, well, crumbles, in the mind of David Liederman, another cookie entrepreneur. Liederman, the founder of the David’s Cookies chain, claims Kerry ripped off the idea from him.

“The bottom line is he just stole it from me,” said Liederman, now a restaurateur and real estate developer in the New York City suburbs.

The Kerry campaign sharply dismissed Liederman’s charge.

“Clearly, the guy who started David’s Cookies didn’t invent cookies,” said spokesman David DiMartino. “John Kerry absolutely denies this charge.”

Kerry’s former venture serves as the backdrop for a number of campaign publicity measures designed to woo voters. In a Vogue magazine profile last year featuring the presidential candidate in surfing wear, Kerry discussed the cookie business at some length.

After dinner one night in Boston, Kerry said, he and a friend had a hankering for cookies. Their search took them to Faneuil Hall. There was no cookie store to be found, but there was an empty retail space. An idea was born, and a store soon followed. The pair named their shop, Kilvert & Forbes Ltd., after their mother’s maiden names, and eventually sold their interest when Kerry’s political career intervened.

“It was a late-night inspiration,” Kerry told Vogue. “I had always had this entrepreneurial piece of me, and I saw it as a great business opportunity.” And this experience, Kerry continued, “stood me in great stead on the [Senate] Small Business Committee.”

However, Liederman recalls a different version of how Kerry’s cookie venture crumbled.

“Some guy who called me up was John Kerry, in ’79 or ’80,” Liederman recalled. “He said he wanted to come down and talk to me about franchising. He came to the office and said he had an incredible space in Boston, which was Faneuil Hall. He said he needed some plans and some layouts and all sorts of things to get the approval of the landlord.”

“So I gave him the layout, the package, and he went back and I didn’t hear from him for six or seven months.”

Then one day Liederman got a call from someone who said they’d seen one of his stores in Faneuil Hall. Not having a store in Boston, Liederman decided to have a look for himself.

“It was a direct, 100-percent knock off of David’s Cookies,” said Liederman, from the appliances to the shop’s design to the cookies themselves. “If you had walked into a David’s Cookie’s store in Manhattan at the same time he opened ‘John’s Cookies’ in Boston, you couldn’t tell the difference.”

In his 1989 autobiography “Running Through Walls,” where the charge first appeared, Liederman wrote that he challenged Kerry on the origin of his business. “I told him he had stolen my idea, and he replied: ‘You’re absolutely right. I am a politician; I shouldn’t be in the cookie business, so let me sell you my store,’” Liederman wrote.

Liederman never bought the store, he said, because Kerry was operating it in violation of his lease. “He was supposed to be selling jams and jellies, not cookies,” he wrote.

DiMartino denied the exchange took place. “John Kerry does not recall having the conversation Mr. Liederman discusses in his book,” he said. “The facts included in Mr. Liederman’s complaint don’t match reality.”

Still, if he wants it, Kerry hasn’t quite lost Liederman’s vote.

“I’d support anybody that wasn’t Bush,” he said. “If Kerry got the nomination, I’d absolutely support him — although Bush never stole David’s Cookies from me.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cookie; cookies; davidliederman; johnkerry; kerry; liederman; sba
KERRY'S ONE WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE (dreaded) PRIVATE SECTOR AND HE STEALS A BUSINESS IDEA. JOHN KERRY AS ENTREPENEUR!
1 posted on 05/06/2004 7:49:29 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
The Kerry campaign sharply dismissed Liederman’s charge.

Wow! A slight change in tactics.

Before today, the Kerry campaign had been "angrily" dismissing the daily controversies.

Where's that "message" John? You can't stay on message until you get a message.

2 posted on 05/06/2004 7:52:32 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dennisw

3 posted on 05/06/2004 7:54:56 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Because Democrats are liars, they assume Republicans are too...)
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To: dennisw
“I’d support anybody that wasn’t Bush,” he said. “If Kerry got the nomination, I’d absolutely support him — although Bush never stole David’s Cookies from me.”

If Kerry becomes president, he will steal what is left of David's Cookies through higher business taxes, more regulations and higher medical insurance costs...

4 posted on 05/06/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: dennisw
...the guy who started David's Cookies didn't invent cookies...

Al Gore invented cookies.

5 posted on 05/06/2004 8:01:38 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: dennisw
“I’d support anybody that wasn’t Bush,” he said. “If Kerry got the nomination, I’d absolutely support him — although Bush never stole David’s Cookies from me.”

Democrats will support anyone who will lie, cheat or steal from America - it is a way of life for them....

6 posted on 05/06/2004 8:05:38 AM PDT by yoe
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To: dennisw
“I’d support anybody that wasn’t Bush,” he said. “If Kerry got the nomination, I’d absolutely support him — although Bush never stole David’s Cookies from me.”

A New York Liberal to the core.

7 posted on 05/06/2004 8:05:59 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: 2banana
“I’d support anybody that wasn’t Bush,” he said. “If Kerry got the nomination, I’d absolutely support him..."

Its assholes like this guy that will be the undoing of this great country.
8 posted on 05/06/2004 8:22:11 AM PDT by vanmorrison
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To: dennisw
“I’d support anybody that wasn’t Bush,” he said. “If Kerry got the nomination, I’d absolutely support him — although Bush never stole David’s Cookies from me.”

If this dumb b*ast*rd would still vote for Kerry after being scammed by him in business, he deserves what he got, or gets, from "Big John II"

9 posted on 05/06/2004 8:30:48 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: dennisw
Do you realize the implications? John Kerry profited by causing us to get fat!! Cookies are far higher in calories than French fries are.

We have an obesity epidemic in this country, and John Kerry went into business to make it worse!!

Has Senator Kerry appologized for this outrage?!


10 posted on 05/06/2004 8:33:19 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Home(page) is where the (political) heart is.)
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After dinner one night in Boston, Kerry said, he and a friend had a hankering for cookies...
...“It was a late-night inspiration,”

So, let me get this straight. Kerry and a friend were out "having dinner" late one night and suddenly developed a case of the munchies?

Yeah, John. Sure it was "dinner." WINK...WINK!! NUDGE...NUDGE!!

11 posted on 05/06/2004 9:18:05 AM PDT by Ghengis
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But Liederman STILL says he'd vote for Kerry, knowing that he's a crook, a thief and a liar, because "he's not Bush!"

To the Dims, a "principle" is just the headmaster of a grammar school!
12 posted on 05/06/2004 9:42:11 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: dennisw
"I don't infringe!"
13 posted on 05/06/2004 10:58:43 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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