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Bird In the Sand

Posted on 05/06/2004 6:51:48 AM PDT by momincombatboots

Edited on 05/06/2004 7:13:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Photos courtesy of MSGT T. Collins, USAF

The Iraqi jet, an advanced Russian MiG-25 Foxbat, was found buried in the sand after an informant tipped off U.S. troops.

The MiG was dug out of a massive sand dune near the Al Taqqadum airfield by U.S. Air Force recovery teams. The MiG was reportedly one of over two dozen Iraqi jets buried in the sand, like hidden treasure, waiting to be recovered at a later date.

Contrary to what some in the major media have reported, not all the jets found were from the Gulf War era. The Russian-made MiG-25 Foxbat being recovered by U.S. Air Force troops in the photos is an advanced reconnaissance version never before seen in the West and is equipped with sophisticated electronic warfare devices.

U.S. Air Force recovery teams had to use large earth-moving equipment to uncover the MiG, which is over 70 feet long and weighs nearly 25 tons.

The Foxbat is known to be one of Iraq's top jet fighters. The advanced electronic reconnaissance version found by the U.S. Air Force is currently in service with the Russian air force. The MiG is capable of flying at speeds of over 2,000 miles an hour, or three times the speed of sound, and at altitudes of over 75,000 feet. The recovery of the advanced MiG fighter is considered to be an intelligence coup by the U.S. Air Force.. The Foxbat may also be equipped with advanced Russian- and French-made electronics that were sold to Iraq during the 1990s in violation of a U..N. ban on arms sales to Baghdad.

The buried aircraft at Al Taqqadum were covered in camouflage netting, sealed and, in many cases, had their wings removed before being buried more than 10 feet beneath the Iraqi desert. The discovery of the buried Iraqi jet fighters illustrates the problem faced by U.S. inspection teams searching Iraq for weapons of mass destruction.

Iraq is larger in size than California, and the massive deserts south and west of Baghdad were used by Saddam Hussein to hide weapons during the first Gulf war. While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands.

Some critics of the Bush administration have claimed that the inability of U.S.. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the president misled the nation into the war with Iraq. However, in recent days the critics have fallen silent as word quietly leaked from Iraq that major discoveries have already been made and are now being documented completely.


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My first post... be gentle. If someone could substantiate this by finding a news related article, I would appreciate it. Thanks
1 posted on 05/06/2004 6:51:50 AM PDT by momincombatboots
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To: momincombatboots
Well, I'll try to be gentle, but:

The article mentions photos - where are they?

Paragraphs would make it a LOT easier to read.

Where's the source? Where did you get this info? You give no magazine or web site - who wrote the words?

2 posted on 05/06/2004 6:55:51 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: momincombatboots
It's well documented, I've seen photos of the plane right here on FR.

As for the plane itself, the 1966-vintage MiG-25 is not all that advanced, even if it was fitted with more advanced electronics. At the time of its discovery, I wondered about why the Iraqis had tried to bury it, since IIRC most of their MiG-25s were for reconnaissance duty (they're capable of Mach 3+ speed).

But since the discovery, I didn't see any follow-up story about this plane, nor any details about the electronics that are supposed to have been sold in violation of UN sanctions.

I bid you a fond welcome to FR, by the way - but I guess your countrymen have already beaten me to it.
3 posted on 05/06/2004 7:02:44 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: momincombatboots
Ok I'll help you out..
Here's the pics.. you gotta do the referance links




4 posted on 05/06/2004 7:06:05 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: momincombatboots
Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand (Charles Smith)
5 posted on 05/06/2004 7:10:02 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: momincombatboots
Here is the story:

Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand


6 posted on 05/06/2004 7:11:43 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: momincombatboots
Here is a PDF file with picts of the jet.
7 posted on 05/06/2004 7:21:28 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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