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All in the Family:Meathead John Kerry's Private Island and Family History.(Weird,Wild Stuff.)
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Posted on 05/03/2004 7:40:35 AM PDT by Redcoat LI

Naushon Island

Naushon Island has been a Forbes family retreat for some time, where the opium trader John Murray Forbes and his family summered for more than a century. Sen. John Forbes Kerry and his first cousin Brice Lalonde summered there, and at another Forbes family estate in France, at Saint-Brieuc when he was growing up. The family owns the island through the J.M. Forbes Naushon Island Trust. Naushon island is several miles long, just off (SW of) Cape Cod in the Elizabeth Islands, and NW of Martha's Vineyard.

The island is owned by the family and they pay little or no property taxes as the use of the island is deemed agricultural by the local authorities.

Nashawena island may also be controlled by the family trust.

All of the Elizabeth Islands except Cuttyhunk are privately owned by the Forbes family.

Forbes family

In the United States, the Forbes family of China and Boston, of which John Forbes Kerry and John Murray Forbes are members, amassed a huge fortune in the China trade dealing in opium to the wealthier Chinese during the Opium Wars and engaging in other merchant banking, trading, and railroad investment projects around the world. Their ties to the opium trade (from Turkey, Ottoman Empire, Iraq, Iran and Afganistan) were so great, the Forbes family became known in China during the Opium War in the 19th century as the 'Opium Dynasty' or 'Poppy Dynasty' and also by a poetic turn of phrase: 'The House of Forbes - Rests on Water - Dreams of Opium'.

Born in France, John Murray Forbes entered the China trade at the behest of his Perkins uncles, and was mentored by the Chinese merchant Houqua who considered Forbes to be like a son. Following John Murray Forbes into China were several brothers and cousins, including Francis Blackwell Forbes, the great grandfather of John Forbes Kerry. The Forbes family lived and traded in China at first due to a family connection with the Perkins family. Later, some of the Forbes family sold their China trading interests to the Russell and Company, later associated with Yale's development and endowment.

Several of the Forbes family cashed out of their dealings in China after the Opium War, and reinvested in Europe and America. Some of the population growth of Chicago and Midwestern Plains states in the middle to late 19th century was due to John Murray Forbes' railroad projects in Michigan and Chicago. In 1879, William Forbes, son of John Murray Forbes, risked the fortune to financially back Alexander Graham Bell's telephone company, and become president of the company, a risk which paid off. Cameron Forbes used his wealth to become Governor General of the Philippines. His niece Ruth Forbes Paine Young tapped her Forbes family inheritance to finance the International Peace Academy. Her husband invented the Bell Helicopter used in the Korean and Vietnam Wars. In a small way, Ruth Forbes Paine Young's son, Michael R. Paine, and his wife Ruth Paine, tapped their family wealth as a benefactor to Lee Harvey Oswald, whose wife Maria Oswald lived in their house as a family friend, and whose rifle was stored in the Paine's family garage. Many Forbes family members purchased estates in France and Massachusetts, and generally remain influential there, in local or national politics. John Forbes Kerry is a U.S. Senator and currently a candidate for President of the U.S. Though he is a beneficiary of several Forbes family trusts (c. 2002), Kerry has not worked in the private sector for Forbes family business interests and has devoted his life to a career in public service.

His first cousin, Brice Lalonde, an ecologist, is a French politician who was a candidate for [President] of France.

Until recently, the Museum of the American China Trade in Boston was curated by a Forbes great-grandson, Dr. H. A. Crosby Forbes, an expert on Chinese porcelain. The museum was a monument to the China merchants and the great wealth accruing to Boston created in the China and opium trade. The [renamed] Forbes House Charitable Trust now owns the Captain Forbes House Museum on Boston's South shore.

The Forbes family owns, through the family JM Forbes Naushon

Island Trust, named for the opium dealer John Murray Forbes, the private Naushon Island, part of the Elizabeth Islands NW of Martha's Vineyard and SW of Cape Cod.

Ruth Forbes (1903-1998) m. 1st George Lyman Paine Jr, m. 3rd Arthur M. Young, inventor of the Bell Helicopter; Ruth founded International Peace Academy and Forbes family fellows Cameron Paine Michael R. Painehttp://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/paine_m1.htm. b. June 25, 1928, NYC, m. Ruth Hyde Paine, Oswald family benefactors in whose garage family friend Lee Harvey Oswald stored rifle and in whose home Marina Oswald lived

Brice Lalonde, a French politician, who ran for President of France as the Green Party candidate in 1981 Rosemary Forbes Kerry, (b. Paris, October 27, 1913), m. to Richard Kerry There is no connection between the descendants of Archibald Forbes and the family that publishes Forbes magazine, which was founded by Bertie Forbes. However, Bertie Forbes, born in New Deer, Scotland is a descendant of the Forbes clan in Scotland.

Rumours that John Forbes Kerry, Presidential candidate and Gigilo is descended from the illegitamite offspring of Karl Marx and Rosa Luxembourg are yet to be disproven.

Sources

Life and Recollections of John Murray Forbes, ed. by Sarah Forbes Hughes, Two Volumes, Houghton, Mifflin & Co., 1899.

An American Railroad Builder: John Murray Forbes, by Henry Pearson, Houghton, Mifflin & Co., 1911.

Forbes: Telephone Pioneer, by Arthur Pier, 1953.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blueblood; forbes; johnkerry; kerry; kerryhomes; leeharveyoswald; naushonisland; nottooswiftboat; opium; taxevasion; yacht
In case you are wondering,you cannot visit Naushon Island,private means private,peasants!

Unexplained pre-historic statue on Naushon Island.


1 posted on 05/03/2004 7:40:37 AM PDT by Redcoat LI
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To: Redcoat LI
"the Forbes family became known in China during the Opium War in the 19th century as the 'Opium Dynasty' or 'Poppy Dynasty' and also by a poetic turn of phrase: 'The House of Forbes - Rests on Water - Dreams of Opium'."
2 posted on 05/03/2004 7:44:55 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: Redcoat LI
"Naushon Island has been a Forbes family retreat for some time, where the opium trader John Murray Forbes and his family summered for more than a century."

Boy, the parallels with the Kennedy Crime family just keep popping up!! The Kennedys only ran whisky out of Canaday during Prohibition though. Got them a few compounds though...
3 posted on 05/03/2004 7:52:49 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (i)
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To: Redcoat LI
The island is owned by the family and they pay little or no property taxes as the use of the island is deemed agricultural by the local authorities.

Taxes are for the "little people."

4 posted on 05/03/2004 7:56:46 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SpinyNorman
"every great fortune is built on a crime"
(paraphrase)

The Forbes Crime Family dwarfs the Kennedy Crime family,they could have easily poisoned hundreds of thousands of lives in the Opium trade.
5 posted on 05/03/2004 7:57:40 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: Redcoat LI
Weird. I'm guessing that if Steve Forbes ever captured the GOP nomination, this would be the central theme of the press coverage of his campaign.

It really shouldn't reflect poorly on Kerry, since he's a self-made man.
6 posted on 05/03/2004 8:05:59 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Redcoat LI
"His first cousin, Brice Lalonde, an ecologist, is a French politician who was a candidate for [President] of France."

Well THAT 'splains his new, dorky look...and why Queen's Bicycle is running through my head. And just lookit those toothpick-like arms and legs!


7 posted on 05/03/2004 8:11:27 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
I love the training wheels. The tee shirt the dork is wearing is from the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. A second tier state university.
8 posted on 05/03/2004 8:19:24 AM PDT by UB355
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To: 2banana
Sounds like a property tax loophole that desperately needs to be closed (or at least exploited by the Republicans to illustrate the Left's hypocrisy)!
9 posted on 05/03/2004 8:30:58 AM PDT by Steve_Stifler
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
"It really shouldn't reflect poorly on Kerry, since he's a self-made man."

Sure. All self made men spend their youth yachting with John F. Kennedy, go to boarding school in Europe, prep schhool in Boston and have the connections and sponsors to buy a successful political career.

10 posted on 05/03/2004 8:35:04 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: UB355
Milwaukee! Makes sense...he was in Wisconsin last week I think.
11 posted on 05/03/2004 8:37:40 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Mia T
I hope I am not disturbing you while you are composing one of your epic threads,but I thought you may like to see this.
12 posted on 05/03/2004 8:40:32 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: UB355
Oh and that pic is from a Caption This thread
13 posted on 05/03/2004 8:40:55 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
It's easy to pooh-pooh John Kerry's humble origins, but You're overlooking the initiative, hard work and dedication it takes to marry a wealthy heiress. (Twice!)
14 posted on 05/03/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: Redcoat LI
To get to the island there is a ferry from Woods Hole but it is private and only available to the family. If you have your own boat you may drop anchor in one of their harbors. Fishing is fabulous. Bass and bluefish. Accomodations on the island aren't luxurious and there are lots of deer with ticks. Lyme disease is all over the area.
15 posted on 05/03/2004 8:43:13 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Redcoat LI
Word on the Cape is that although they couldn't stop him from coming, the other Forbes who summer on Naushon hate to see JF'nK coming.
16 posted on 05/03/2004 8:44:55 AM PDT by metesky (You will be diverse, just like us.)
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To: ladyjane
Really?

I am assuming you need prior permission to visit one of their harbors.

The ticks are really bad around here this year.
17 posted on 05/03/2004 8:46:42 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: Redcoat LI
Boston Brahmans. I have several hundred Paine cousins by marriage; also Perkinses and Forbeses. The Paine money comes mostly from General Paine, who was the youngest general in the Civil War and served as governor of New Orleans. He was involved in railroad mergers. Two of his sons were the Paines who won the Olympic rifle and pistol events back in the early 20th century and were portrayed in that movie about the Olympics.

Many of these people were involved earlier in the Chinese Clipper trade. I have heard it mentioned that opium was probably one of their more profitable cargoes.

Most of these people are perfectly decent and some are good friends, but living on inherited money is not the best recipe for the good life as prescribed by Aristotle. Fortunately I never saw any Paine money myself.
18 posted on 05/03/2004 8:48:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cake_crumb

I didn't notice the training-wheels until the third or fourth time I looked at the pic.

Groin-Grabbingly funny!

19 posted on 05/03/2004 8:50:26 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: Cicero
Many of these people were involved earlier in the Chinese Clipper trade

In it's earliest stages,the China trade was mainly Luxury items such as Silk,fine porcelain,etc..

The Opium trade was conducted in China,so any trans-Atlantic Clipper trade was clean.

Most of these people are perfectly decent and some are good friends

I'm sure they are,I in no way meant to insinuate that all people of this background are corrupted by dirty money,I just wanted to point out that holier-than-thou John Kerry is.

20 posted on 05/03/2004 8:57:35 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
"It's easy to pooh-pooh John Kerry's humble origins, but You're overlooking the initiative, hard work and dedication it takes to marry a wealthy heiress. (Twice!)"

Yes I agree, that must be exhausting work...look at the muscles he's got in the above pic!

21 posted on 05/03/2004 8:59:44 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Redcoat LI; UB355
"I didn't notice the training-wheels until the third or fourth time I looked at the pic."

LOL...I didn't notice them until UB355 pointed them out. They were overshadowed by those matchstick limbs!

22 posted on 05/03/2004 9:03:00 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Actually, I've read that Steve Forbes and his family are not related to Kerry's Forbes.
23 posted on 05/03/2004 9:10:40 AM PDT by hepcat620
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To: Redcoat LI
You don't need permission to drop anchor in Hadley Harbor.They don't want you going ashore but there is nothing they can do about boats sailing around the island. There is another spot on the island that is pretty but I can't remember its name. If you do get a chance to sail around there be sure to stop at Cuttyhunk. It's in the Elizabeth Island chain. Bring your own wine to have with the fresh swordfish you can buy from the local fishermen.God's place.BTW judging from your homepage you must live near/in Cambridge. It seems every third person there is a Forbes. They're all over the place.Befriend one of them and you might get an invite to Naushon. Bring Deet.
24 posted on 05/03/2004 9:25:21 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
I'm guessing that if Steve Forbes ever captured the GOP nomination, this would be the central theme of the press coverage of his campaign.

From the article: There is no connection between the descendants of Archibald Forbes and the family that publishes Forbes magazine, which was founded by Bertie Forbes.

25 posted on 05/03/2004 9:26:39 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: hepcat620
The Forbes magazine folks aren't related to the Boston Forbes.
26 posted on 05/03/2004 9:27:20 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Redcoat LI
Rumours that John Forbes Kerry, Presidential candidate and Gigilo is descended from the illegitamite offspring of Karl Marx and Rosa Luxembourg are yet to be disproven.

LOL

27 posted on 05/03/2004 9:36:33 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: DoctorMichael
"Rumours that John Forbes Kerry, Presidential candidate and Gigilo is descended from the illegitamite offspring of Karl Marx and Rosa Luxembourg are yet to be disproven."

Completely true.
28 posted on 05/03/2004 9:53:31 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: Redcoat LI
I am assuming you need prior permission to visit one of their harbors.

Not if your anchoring. Property rights don't extend past the waters edge.

29 posted on 05/03/2004 1:13:27 PM PDT by Jack Black
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