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Former Iraqi brass pledges to guard Fallujah
North County Times ^ | 4/30/04 | Darrin Mortenson

Posted on 04/30/2004 3:59:59 PM PDT by saquin

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1 posted on 04/30/2004 4:00:01 PM PDT by saquin
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To: saquin
This is a slap in the face of the Marines and our soldiers in Iraq.

Its like appointing an SS officer to be incharge of a German town at the end of the war in Germany.

Sad.
2 posted on 04/30/2004 4:09:09 PM PDT by dinok
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To: saquin
"Former Iraqi brass pledges to guard Fallujah..."

No doubt...but we will have to see for WHOM they are guarding Fallujah....

If they accept the surrender, and then release the anti-coalition thugs -- then the U.S. will have to go in or admit they've been suckered - again.

Semper Fi

3 posted on 04/30/2004 4:10:27 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Actually, this is a step in the right direction... sooner or later, the Iraqi's have to take over security... just because these guys are Ba'athists, doesn't necessarily mean they are bad... but we need to keep a close eye on them, that's for sure...
4 posted on 04/30/2004 4:13:06 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: saquin
Staff Gen. Jasim Muhammed Salah

Who is this guy..

5 posted on 04/30/2004 4:13:34 PM PDT by Dog (In Memory of Pat Tillman ---- ---- ---- American Hero.)
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To: Dog
Seriously, anybody buy that this guy will find those in charge of the insurgency and bring them to justice. More likely the murderers of Americans will be his "elite force".
6 posted on 04/30/2004 4:18:06 PM PDT by PFC
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To: Dog
Good question that has been asked all day long. *)

Has he been training in Jordan with this battalion for the last four months, as was suggested on Wretchard's blog?
7 posted on 04/30/2004 4:18:39 PM PDT by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: dinok
It has been stated many times on FR that Patton used former nazi military officers in the occupation of Germany.

But you know all from 6,000 miles away, nevermind.

8 posted on 04/30/2004 4:23:01 PM PDT by Dane
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To: saquin
"Even while the generals talked of today's operations and reporters bantered about the sudden outbreak of peace in Fallujah, fighting continued Friday along the city's troublesome northern and western regions along the Euphrates River. "

Belmont Club was right - bad guys in the Golan area (NW fallujah).


9 posted on 04/30/2004 4:30:07 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: saquin
The US Military's equivilant to a HAIL MARY pass right with no time left before halftime, and a big lead. Nothing to lose, everything to gain and more action just minutes away (after a needed rest) for the team.

I know it is a terrible analogy but however it is characterized it is a GAMBIT and I hope it works!!

10 posted on 04/30/2004 4:32:25 PM PDT by PISANO (Our troops...... will NOT tire...will NOT falter.....and WILL NOT FAIL!!!)
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To: Dane
Patton never appointed SS men to anything.
11 posted on 04/30/2004 4:36:54 PM PDT by dinok
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To: saquin
I'm delirious... I'm having a vision... it's blurry... it's slowly focusing... a building... a small building... something moving around the building watching it very carefully... four legged animal... ah... now I see... it's a fox guarding a hen house. 'Nuff said?
12 posted on 04/30/2004 4:37:09 PM PDT by upchuck (Message to Senator John F'ing sKerry: Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity.)
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To: dinok
Patton never appointed SS men to anything

I didn't say SS. I said nazi military.

13 posted on 04/30/2004 4:39:33 PM PDT by Dane
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To: saquin
"A dozen former Iraqi generals and intelligence officers met Friday with U.S. military leaders and pledged to lead a brigade of 1,000 Iraqi soldiers to replace the Marines fortifying the city's borders. "

IMHO, it seems like the brigade of 1,000 Iraqi soldiers will take up defensive positions, be joined up with the dirty nightshirts and challenge the Marines to "come and take it."

14 posted on 04/30/2004 4:45:58 PM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (GUNS: more than I need; not as many as I want.)
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Who cares who is running Falujah? The goal is to make it safe. If in 2 weeks, Blackwater Security personel can pass safely through Falujah...I call that a victory.

If not, it can always be destroyed. That option is always there.

15 posted on 04/30/2004 4:52:26 PM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: upchuck
LOL
16 posted on 04/30/2004 4:59:50 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: oolatec
"Actually, this is a step in the right direction..."

I believe THAT remains to be seen...

I'm of the school that believes it is counterproductive to negotiate with Islamist lunatics...
Their ONLY options should be to die, or UNCONDITIONAL surrender.

If this new "Iraqi Army" goes in to destroy or capture - that is one thing...
If they go in to negotiate a sweetheart surrender, and then release -- that will be a catastrophe...with long term consequences.

For one thing.. I would mean a Democrat President - whomever they run..

Semper Fi

17 posted on 04/30/2004 5:00:24 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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In my opinion, this Iraqi General (who is from Fallujah) knows that if he screws up and doesn't rid Fallujah of the terrorists and doesn't make it safe for the Marines to enter without being attacked, his beloved Fallujah will again come under heavy assault. His feet are being held to the fire, with Iraqi troops on the front lines instead of U.S. Marines. I think we should give this a chance. If it doesn't work, the military option is always there. The Marines aren't leaving.
18 posted on 04/30/2004 5:03:56 PM PDT by saquin
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To: NeonKnight
"If in 2 weeks, Blackwater Security personel can pass safely through Falujah...I call that a victory."

Thank god our early Presidents didn't feel that way about paying tribute to the Islamic barbary pirates -- for "safe passage"...

Get real..
The ONLY path to victory, lies over the graves of every Jihadists that wishes to impose his will on a non Jihadist.

Peace through the death or total defeat of the enemy....is a more reliable peace...

Semper Fi

19 posted on 04/30/2004 5:05:24 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Thank god our early Presidents didn't feel that way about paying tribute to the Islamic barbary pirates -- for "safe passage"...

Uh, Washington, Adams and Jeferson all paid tribute to the Barbary Pirates for safe passage for our ships.

When Jefferson came to office it was over 1/5th of the entire federal budget.

The pirates messed up a good thing by not keeping their part of the deal. But that's what pirates always do.

20 posted on 04/30/2004 5:15:45 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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