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Michael Moore's "Secret" Movie About the US Army in Iraq
Michael's Moore Web site: the "Mike's Message" section ^ | April 14, 2004 | Michael Moore

Posted on 04/25/2004 6:38:29 PM PDT by summer

From Michael Moore's web site:

[...]

The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush? ....

[....]

I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army). They are talking to soldiers and gathering the true sentiment about what is really going on. They Fed Ex the footage back to me each week. That's right, Fed Ex. Who said we haven't brought freedom to Iraq! The funniest story my guys tell me is how when they fly into Baghdad, they don't have to show a passport or go through immigration. Why not? Because they have not traveled from a foreign country -- they're coming from America TO America, a place that is ours, a new American territory called Iraq.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; michaelmoore; nickberg; susbarbatus; usarmy
I actually liked Michael Moore's first documentary, "Roger and Me," but that was more than a decade agao. Today I read the NY Post and was in shock and disbelief at what they quoted from his web site. But, then I checked and saw it on the Michael Moore web site, and I have posted it above (see first paragraph).

Then I saw this other line he has posted:

"I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army)."

And I thought: Gee, you put it up there on a web site, and you're sure no one knows anything about this? Frankly, I think he is full of himself here. Are people really flying in and out of Iraq as he describes? I doubt it. So, why does he say such things?

Finally, I get no pleasure out of posting this, and if it's yanked, that's OK with me. I just can't believe the level of insensitivity some Americans are showing during a time when American's bravest men and women are risking their lives.

It's really heartbreaking to me.
1 posted on 04/25/2004 6:38:30 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
The lard in his body has spiked his glucose levels...
2 posted on 04/25/2004 6:42:31 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: summer
He thinks Bush caused Columbine while Clinton was president.
3 posted on 04/25/2004 6:44:13 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Army Air Corps
Moore should be held up as an example to kids as to what happens when you don't flush the toilet.
4 posted on 04/25/2004 6:45:00 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Moore should be held up as an example to kids as to what happens when you don't flush the toilet.

LOL. That was too good!!!!!
5 posted on 04/25/2004 6:46:27 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
(Teacher)Stay in school and learn, children unless..you...want to end up...like...this man!!! (Children) ARRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!!
6 posted on 04/25/2004 6:48:29 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: summer
Be fore warned that this is one of those things that the more it is hated and despised, the more hype and publcitiy it receives. He didn't put the little note on his site to get his followers excited, he wanted those that find it disgraceful to get excited.

It's best to not be surprised by Mr. Moores continued milking of his cash cow of hate mongering and ignore the whole thing.

7 posted on 04/25/2004 6:48:39 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: summer
Moore actually ripped off Ben Hamper's experiences in 'Rivethead.' The original voice from Flint, MI that Moore cultivated as a testimony from the trenches and took on as his entry film. Only a genuine shop-rat could concoct the scenes that animate the film. Moore has only viewed life from an 'all-you-can-eat' buffet at his local scarf'n'barf. Read the book - it is wa-a-a-ay better than Moore's movie.
8 posted on 04/25/2004 6:50:27 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (So what are you expecting from NPR - the truth?)
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To: summer
The funniest story my guys tell me is how when they fly into Baghdad, they don't have to show a passport or go through immigration.

Message to micheal, all military personal have the same privilage in any country with a prior military agreement, not to require sailors, soldiers and marines to go thru customs. They never go thru customs, a military ID is all u need. I was in the Navy for four years, went to dozens of counties without a passport, never went thru customs, not once. Geez, do a little research.

9 posted on 04/25/2004 6:51:36 PM PDT by austinite
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To: austinite
That is the problem, Mike only does a little research before opening his gaping maw. It would be generous to say that he goes off half-cocked.
10 posted on 04/25/2004 7:00:58 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: summer
This is your brain…

This is your brain on drugs…

Any questions?

11 posted on 04/25/2004 7:02:07 PM PDT by PRSOrlando
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To: summer
You must remember that anything MM states is already tainted, as he is a virulent Socialist and any party that he supports here is because they are closest to his Socialist beliefs.

The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush? ....

As to his comments about them being "They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, ..." not insurgents or terrorists; he's long ago ventured into Jane Fondues la la land. They are terrorists!

I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army). Oh sure, uh-huh!They are talking to soldiers and gathering the true sentiment about what is really going on. They Fed Ex the footage back to me each week. That's right, Fed Ex.

Hey, now just how dumb, does he think the troops really are? Does he really think someone is not with them when the film is being edited or that it is not being screened?

Who said we haven't brought freedom to Iraq! The funniest story my guys tell me is how when they fly into Baghdad, they don't have to show a passport or go through immigration. Why not? Because they have not traveled from a foreign country -- they're coming from America TO America, a place that is ours, a new American territory called Iraq.

No! They are coming from a secure departure point and since there is no government in place to do immigration there is none there coming to a secure departure point.

12 posted on 04/25/2004 7:08:00 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: summer
He just crossed the line from freedom of speech to open treason.
13 posted on 04/25/2004 7:08:59 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: SandRat
This movie is about a secret as his love affair with gristle.
14 posted on 04/25/2004 7:10:47 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: summer
When Moore's movie is released this fall, Michael will be the Elephant in Kerry's parade, and Kerry will have to walk behind him with a shovel.
15 posted on 04/25/2004 7:12:16 PM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: Army Air Corps
Someone once said MM is a member of the Left's Air Corps as that's all he has between his ears - AIR!
16 posted on 04/25/2004 7:12:58 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: summer
When I hear the name Michael Moore. I think, when I was growing up, he would not be as old as he is now.


Then I think sedition. I wonder when someone will arrest his fat ugly @ss.
17 posted on 04/25/2004 7:13:35 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (I want to know who called this maternal copulater a piccolo player.)
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To: summer
MM should drag his own fat lazy ass to Iraq.
19 posted on 04/25/2004 7:20:26 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Moore should be held up as an example to kids as to what happens when you don't flush the toilet.
Line of the week! LOL Now who's got the heavy duty crane needed to hold him up as an example?

-Eric

20 posted on 04/25/2004 7:21:44 PM PDT by E Rocc (Bush has overcome weakness. Kerry has let weakness overcome him.)
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To: jocon307
That might prove difficult. I bet his lard ass would absorb most bullets fired at him.
21 posted on 04/25/2004 7:22:39 PM PDT by scarface367 (On the advice of my lawyer, this tagline has no comment)
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To: scarface367
LOL... oh dear I was about to post something not so nice. I see someone else beat me to it!
22 posted on 04/25/2004 7:25:15 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: summer
"I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army)."

1-800-CALL-SPY is the appropriate way to report SAEDA.

23 posted on 04/25/2004 7:26:05 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: Mrs Zip
ping
24 posted on 04/25/2004 7:26:39 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Moore actually ripped off Ben Hamper's experiences in 'Rivethead.' The original voice from Flint, MI that Moore cultivated as a testimony from the trenches and took on as his entry film. Only a genuine shop-rat could concoct the scenes that animate the film. Moore has only viewed life from an 'all-you-can-eat' buffet at his local scarf'n'barf. Read the book - it is wa-a-a-ay better than Moore's movie.
Rivethead rocks. Moore thought he was Hamper's "mentor" because he published him in the birdcage liner he used to edit. Hamper mocks the clinton out of Moore when he describes his visit to the auto plant where Ben worked, pulling up in his Toyota and hanging around the equipment for half an hour or so without touching anything oily or icky. The mockery may have been unintentional but I doubt it.

-Eric

25 posted on 04/25/2004 7:26:50 PM PDT by E Rocc (Bush has overcome weakness. Kerry has let weakness overcome him.)
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To: Army Air Corps; All

He's put on a little weight too.

26 posted on 04/25/2004 7:29:11 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Husker24
"....He just crossed the line from freedom of speech to open treason...."

Something about this doesn't strike me as right either. I wonder if this clown can expect a visit from the Feds? This is just NOT RIGHT in a time of war and our troops in 'harm's way'.

27 posted on 04/25/2004 7:31:40 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: E Rocc
True, true, true. I was a shop-rat myself long, long ago.
29 posted on 04/25/2004 7:33:35 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (So what are you expecting from NPR - the truth?)
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To: FreedomCalls
I see that he is going for the Buddha look.
30 posted on 04/25/2004 7:36:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (To increase the power of the State over the individual is a crime against Humanity.)
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To: summer
They are talking to soldiers and gathering the true sentiment about what is really going on.

What he means to say is that with creative editing and outright fudging, ala Bowling for Columbine, he will twist the true sentiment expressed by the soldiers to fit his own preconceived talking points.

31 posted on 04/25/2004 7:37:15 PM PDT by battousai (Islamic terrorists are like cancer... can you negotiate with Cancer?)
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To: summer
"I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army)."

This makes me sick. Mr. Moore is putting people in harm's way so that he can capitalize on his next movie. If he wants to know what is really happening, he should go to Iraq himself and see it firsthand. How does he know his people are even reporting the truth? This is not only exploitation of workers for personal profit, it is blatantly dishonest.

32 posted on 04/25/2004 7:37:56 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: summer
"...they're coming from America TO America, a place that is ours, a new American territory called Iraq."

Works for me. I'd call Moore spineless, but he has to have an industrial strength spine in order to support his weight and his bullshit.......

33 posted on 04/25/2004 7:54:03 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: PRSOrlando

Is that a Sadam stain on Moore's blue suite lapel? (think Bill & Monica)

34 posted on 04/25/2004 8:39:40 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: austinite
***They never go thru customs, ****

Each time we flew back from Asia in 1967-1969 we were met by customs and our Kc-135 was searched.
35 posted on 04/25/2004 8:39:55 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (DEMS STILL LIE like yellow dogs.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
True, true, true. I was a shop-rat myself long, long ago.
The other funny thing is that Hamper's view of his relationship with GM sounds way more like Bob Seger singing "I used her, she used me, neither one cared. We were getting our share." than it does Moore's portrayal of the Noble Proletariat exploited by Evil Management.

-Eric

36 posted on 04/26/2004 5:21:34 AM PDT by E Rocc (Bush has overcome weakness. Kerry has let weakness overcome him.)
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To: SandRat
One of these cameramen/reporters COULD have been Nick Berg! Since Salon.com now say that Michael Moore has a 20 minute INTERVIEW with Nick Berg!!!

Please keep this thread bumped, as it is MM Web age.

37 posted on 05/27/2004 10:37:07 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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To: wai-ming

Nick Berg COULD be Moore's Cameraman/reporter...read SPY!


38 posted on 05/27/2004 10:39:28 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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To: summer

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39 posted on 05/27/2004 10:57:06 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. DCN)
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bookmark


40 posted on 05/28/2004 4:41:36 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Ann Archy

Is this still on his website?


41 posted on 05/28/2004 4:44:08 PM PDT by Hildy (...love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: Hildy

I'll answer my own question...yes, it is.


42 posted on 05/28/2004 4:45:37 PM PDT by Hildy (...love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: summer

His cameramen is not new news. I can't help but wonder if the prison scandal is not of his making.


43 posted on 05/28/2004 4:47:56 PM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: Hildy

Sometimes, in order to have intelligent conversation, you have to talk to yourself!


44 posted on 05/28/2004 5:03:55 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: summer

I may be naieve, but isn't this all illegal, treason?


45 posted on 05/28/2004 5:47:40 PM PDT by Cincinna (Beware HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Husker24

>> He just crossed the line from freedom of speech to open treason. <<

When the government passed on charging Hanoi Jane with treason, treason ceased to be a crime in this country. John Lindh Walker is proof of that. Sure, he's in prison but he's still breathing.


46 posted on 05/29/2004 7:27:33 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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