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Gorelick's Wall: The Commissioner belongs in the witness chair.
The Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal ^ | April 15, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 04/14/2004 9:38:55 PM PDT by quidnunc

We predicted Democrats would use the 9/11 Commission for partisan purposes, and that much of the press would oblige. But color us astonished that barely anyone appreciates the significance of the bombshell Attorney General John Ashcroft dropped on the hearings Tuesday. If Jamie Gorelick were a Republican, you can be sure our colleagues in the Fourth Estate would be leading the chorus of complaint that the Commission's objectivity has been fatally compromised by a member who was also one of the key personalities behind the failed antiterror policy that the Commission has under scrutiny. Where's the outrage?

At issue is the pre-Patriot Act "wall" that prevented communication between intelligence agents and criminal investigators — a wall, Mr. Ashcroft said, that meant "the old national intelligence system in place on September 11 was destined to fail." The Attorney General explained:

"In the days before September 11, the wall specifically impeded the investigation into Zacarias Moussaoui, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi. After the FBI arrested Moussaoui, agents became suspicious of his interest in commercial aircraft and sought approval for a criminal warrant to search his computer. The warrant was rejected because FBI officials feared breaching the wall.

"When the CIA finally told the FBI that al-Midhar and al-Hazmi were in the country in late August, agents in New York searched for the suspects. But because of the wall, FBI headquarters refused to allow criminal investigators who knew the most about the most recent al Qaeda attack to join the hunt for the suspected terrorists.

"At that time, a frustrated FBI investigator wrote headquarters, quote, 'Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain 'problems.' "

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; alhazmi; almidhar; aschcrofttestimony; ashcroft; clintonfailure; clintonfailures; gorelick; gorelickgate; gorelickmemo; moussaoui; sept11
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1 posted on 04/14/2004 9:38:58 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Gorelick's Wall . . . BUMP!
2 posted on 04/14/2004 9:43:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: quidnunc; jmstein7; Howlin
See this? Here's the most important paragraph IMO:

Recall, too, that during the time of Ms. Gorelick's 1995 memo, the issue causing the most tension between the Reno-Gorelick Justice Department and Director Freeh's FBI was not counterterrorism but widely reported allegations of contributions to the Clinton-Gore campaign from foreign sources, involving the likes of John Huang and Charlie Trie. Mr. Trie later told investigators that between 1994 and 1996 he raised some $1.2 million, much of it from foreign sources, whose identities were hidden by straw donors. Ms. Gorelick resigned as deputy attorney general in 1997 to become vice chairman of Fannie Mae.

3 posted on 04/14/2004 9:48:08 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: BenLurkin
Just what part of Al Gore is this DNC shill licking anyway?
4 posted on 04/14/2004 9:48:34 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: BenLurkin
Gorelick's Wall
The Commissioner belongs in the witness chair.

Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT

We predicted Democrats would use the 9/11 Commission for partisan purposes, and that much of the press would oblige. But color us astonished that barely anyone appreciates the significance of the bombshell Attorney General John Ashcroft dropped on the hearings Tuesday. If Jamie Gorelick were a Republican, you can be sure our colleagues in the Fourth Estate would be leading the chorus of complaint that the Commission's objectivity has been fatally compromised by a member who was also one of the key personalities behind the failed antiterror policy that the Commission has under scrutiny. Where's the outrage?

At issue is the pre-Patriot Act "wall" that prevented communication between intelligence agents and criminal investigators--a wall, Mr. Ashcroft said, that meant "the old national intelligence system in place on September 11 was destined to fail." The Attorney General explained:

"In the days before September 11, the wall specifically impeded the investigation into Zacarias Moussaoui, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi. After the FBI arrested Moussaoui, agents became suspicious of his interest in commercial aircraft and sought approval for a criminal warrant to search his computer. The warrant was rejected because FBI officials feared breaching the wall.

"When the CIA finally told the FBI that al-Midhar and al-Hazmi were in the country in late August, agents in New York searched for the suspects. But because of the wall, FBI headquarters refused to allow criminal investigators who knew the most about the most recent al Qaeda attack to join the hunt for the suspected terrorists.

"At that time, a frustrated FBI investigator wrote headquarters, quote, 'Whatever has happened to this--someday someone will die--and wall or not--the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain 'problems.' "

What's more, Mr. Ashcroft noted, the wall did not mysteriously arise: "Someone built this wall." That someone was largely the Democrats, who enshrined Vietnam-era paranoia about alleged FBI domestic spying abuses by enacting the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Mr. Ashcroft pointed out that the wall was raised even higher in the mid-1990s, in the midst of what was then one of the most important antiterror investigations in American history--into the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. On Tuesday the Attorney General declassified and read from a March 4, 1995, memo in which Jamie Gorelick--then Deputy Attorney General and now 9/11 Commissioner--instructed then-FBI Director Louis Freeh and United States Attorney Mary Jo White that for the sake of "appearances" they would be required to adhere to an interpretation of the wall far stricter than the law required.





Ms. White was then the lead prosecutor in cases related to the Trade Center bombing. Ms. Gorelick explicitly references United States v. Yousef and United States v. Rahman--cases that might have greatly expanded our pre-9/11 understanding of al Qaeda had investigators been given a freer hand. The memo is a clear indication that there was pressure then for more intelligence sharing. Ms. Gorelick's response is an unequivocal "no":
"We believe that it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations. These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation" (emphases added).

In case anyone was in doubt, Janet Reno herself affirmed the policy several months later in a July 19, 1995, memo that we have unearthed. In it, the then-Attorney General instructs all U.S. Attorneys about avoiding "the appearance" of overlap between intelligence-related activities and law-enforcement operations.

Recall, too, that during the time of Ms. Gorelick's 1995 memo, the issue causing the most tension between the Reno-Gorelick Justice Department and Director Freeh's FBI was not counterterrorism but widely reported allegations of contributions to the Clinton-Gore campaign from foreign sources, involving the likes of John Huang and Charlie Trie. Mr. Trie later told investigators that between 1994 and 1996 he raised some $1.2 million, much of it from foreign sources, whose identities were hidden by straw donors. Ms. Gorelick resigned as deputy attorney general in 1997 to become vice chairman of Fannie Mae.

From any reasonably objective point of view, the Gorelick memo has to count as by far the biggest news so far out of the 9/11 hearings. The Mary Jo White prosecutions and the 2001 Moussaoui arrest were among our best chances to uncover and unravel the al Qaeda network before it struck the homeland. But thanks in part to the Clinton Administration's concern with appearances and in part to its legacy, these investigations were hamstrung.

Ms. Gorelick--an aspirant to Attorney General under a President Kerry--now sits in judgment of the current Administration. This is what, if the principle has any meaning at all, people call a conflict of interest. Henry Kissinger was hounded off the Commission for far less. It's such a big conflict of interest that the White House could hardly be blamed if it decided to cease cooperation with the 9/11 Commission pending Ms. Gorelick's resignation and her testimony under oath as a witness into the mind of the Reno Justice Department. What exactly was the purpose of the wall?

5 posted on 04/14/2004 9:51:58 PM PDT by b4its2late (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: quidnunc
Absolutely nothing will be done about her. Mr. Kean, the so called Republican chairman, gave her a rousing commendation and said he wished people would stay out of their business.

The 9/11 commission is politics at its worst. Not only are they not focusing on fixing things in the future, they are giving way too much security information to our enemies.

Many politicians on both sides of the aisle would sell the rest of us down the river just to get their faces on TV.
6 posted on 04/14/2004 9:52:13 PM PDT by arjay ("I don't do bumper stickers." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: quidnunc
Well, damn it! Why is the Republican Party sitting on its fat asses while Rush Limbaugh and the Wall Street Journal does its dirty work?

Where's Bill Frist's outrage? Where's Dennis Hastert's outrage? Where's John McCain's outrage?

Spineless sonsab****es.

7 posted on 04/14/2004 9:53:05 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: potlatch; onyx; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; devolve
Gore-licking good PING
8 posted on 04/14/2004 9:53:31 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Callahan

9 posted on 04/14/2004 9:54:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: ntnychik
Thanks, ntnychik!
10 posted on 04/14/2004 9:56:54 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: ntnychik
WSJ editorial is spot on.
Take heed GOP leadership.
11 posted on 04/14/2004 9:57:28 PM PDT by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold)
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To: arjay
How on earth did the Republicans go about getting the likes of Kean and Gorton on the commission? Death wish?
12 posted on 04/14/2004 9:59:37 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: quidnunc
I'm sure the media will pressure Gorelick to testify in public like they did with Condi Rice.

Yeah right . . .

13 posted on 04/14/2004 9:59:37 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: quidnunc

14 posted on 04/14/2004 10:01:09 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (3% votes Nader vs 1% purity on the right. Purity is the losing strategy right from the get-go.)
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To: b4its2late
March 4, 1995, memo in which Jamie Gorelick--then Deputy Attorney General and now 9/11 Commissioner--instructed then-FBI Director Louis Freeh and United States Attorney Mary Jo White that for the sake of "appearances" they would be required to adhere to an interpretation of the wall far stricter than the law required.
15 posted on 04/14/2004 10:02:29 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Texas Eagle; quidnunc
I agree with you, Texas Eagle. Day after day we have to listen to Kerry and all the Democrats bash on the President, while none of the Republicans can seem to 'get their anger' up and speak out!

I even wish the President would speak up more!
16 posted on 04/14/2004 10:05:05 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: quidnunc
Gorelick had the unmitigated gall to come on cable news programs a week or so ago and say that the problem was the wall between intelligence and the FBI but that the Klintoon administration allowed sharing of information during the so-called Y2K *crisis", leaving an inference that Y2K was a 9/11-type event that Slick Willie's hawks dismantled. Y2K was a computer scare, not a terrorist scare, beyond the usual Times Square babble. She is absolutely complicit in the scheme to control the FBI and the intelligence community which she herself identified as problematic on national TV.

My hat is off to James Sensenbrenner for coming on Fox and MSNBC to call for her resignation tonight, and to John Ashcroft for de-classifying the smoking gun.
17 posted on 04/14/2004 10:10:07 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: potlatch
I even wish the President would speak up more!

Heavens to Betsy. No. We must not politicize this process (even though it's already highly politicized). And we wouldn't want to undo all the progress that President Bush's "new tone in Washington" has produced. No, no. We must stay the course and let DemocRATS kick our asses up and down the street.

18 posted on 04/14/2004 10:12:06 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Edgewood Pilot; Skywarner
Did you see this?
19 posted on 04/14/2004 10:14:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: quidnunc
I wrote to my Congress people (Bond, Talent, and Todd Akin) asking them to support Sensenbrenner in calling for the resignation of Gorelick. It was the least I could do.
20 posted on 04/14/2004 10:15:28 PM PDT by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: Zeroisanumber
Ms. Gorelick--an aspirant to Attorney General under a President Kerry--now sits in judgment of the current Administration. This is what, if the principle has any meaning at all, people call a conflict of interest.
21 posted on 04/14/2004 10:15:33 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: All
9-11 Commission Lunch Menu - April 15, 2004

Braised Crow with Ashcroft BBQ sauce
Gorelick toast
Green Beans Ben-Vineste
Sensenbrenner pie with whipped Kean

22 posted on 04/14/2004 10:16:54 PM PDT by O Neill (When Johny bin Kerry comes marchin' home: Who cares? Who cares?)
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To: Texas Eagle
Jim Sensenbrenner called for her resignation on MSNBC and Fox tonight. Ashcroft laid it all out in his testimony, and de-classified Gorelick's directive.

The party and the administration are wise beyond the comprehension of many. Come November, many, many more will "get it."
23 posted on 04/14/2004 10:17:16 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
Great! I hope you call them as well.
24 posted on 04/14/2004 10:19:35 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
Wrote the commission this evening......Was about to post to another that we cannot rely on (R)leadership to carry the ball....It'll just get stolen (spun)by the media.....We, the people, MUST be the activist....email, letters, phone calls....Put pressure on media, commission, congressmen.....The silent majority MUST find it's voice.
25 posted on 04/14/2004 10:20:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
Just wrote the commission. This whole charade is a mockery. I don't know if I can stomach any more of it.
26 posted on 04/14/2004 10:23:44 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: quidnunc
Yep. The jig is up. Gorelick and the Democrats thought they could be sneaky and put this pig Gorelick on the Commission specifically so that she would be conveniently overlooked as a witness. Instead, they set themselves up to look like fools.

Ah, well....
The Bush team knew, weeks ago, what was going to come out from Ashcroft's testimony and so they "agreed" to "cave" and let Rice testify. This little masterstroke of sandbagging was, in retrospect, magnificent. Gorelick now has no excuse - -she cannot refuse to testify without looking like the biggest hypocrite on the face of the earth. And the Democrats can only sit by silently and pout. All that's needed now is for the Republicans to duplicate the insidious Democrat catcalls that were directed at Bush when they were trying to force Rice to testify.

By the way, I haven't heard from the scumbag "9-11 widows" of 'Today Show' fame - - what do they have to say about the Gorelick memo?

27 posted on 04/14/2004 10:24:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Did you see what our Kristinn (DC Chapter FR) did this AM? He took the research on the Gore airline fiascoes and distributed at the commission meeting....FR at it's finest!

That's the next punch they'll be feeling.....

Gore and Gorelick.... What a pair!
28 posted on 04/14/2004 10:29:54 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
Did you see what our Kristinn (DC Chapter FR) did this AM? He took the research on the Gore airline fiascoes and distributed at the commission meeting....FR at it's finest!

Whoa! Thanks for the heads-up - - I missed that. Great freeping!

Today on Hannity's radio show he had Ashcroft on and he played the tape of Clinton talking about turning down Sudan's offer of bin Laden because he didn't have any legal reason to take him.

Stuff like this - - Kristinn's freep and Hannity playing the tape over and over - - make it impossible for the political elite and the Commission to claim they weren't "aware" of things.

29 posted on 04/14/2004 10:37:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Precisely! The dems repeat and repeat and repeat a lie until it becomes true......The R's say the truth once and expect it to stick.......We MUST keep repeating... and sending materials to the media.....Basically jounalist and "lazy",(No time to actually do research) they want someone else to do their work.....So keep feeding them OUR news.
30 posted on 04/14/2004 10:42:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
"Wrote the commission this evening"

How? What is their e-mail?

31 posted on 04/14/2004 10:48:40 PM PDT by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: b4its2late
bump!
32 posted on 04/14/2004 10:51:23 PM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: quidnunc
Someone please give me a link to an e-mail list for all Senators that I can paste into the "To" slot on an e-mail. I want to mail the following to every one of those folks - fraud on the 9/11 Commission is being perpertrated and its got to be stopped.

I urge you all to e-mail something along the following lines:

Honorable Senators:

The revelation today that a 9/11 Terrorism Commission member was instrumental in the promulgation of a regulation that, as testified to by virtually all witnesses before the Comission, resulted in the DOTS not only not being connected, but in the DOTS not flowing to any central clearing point to be analyzed, is frankly astounding.

The fact that the individual in question, Jamie Gorelick, when faced with the fact of her involvement in a regulation she authored while in government that is a linchpin to the investigation, did not resign from the commission is astounding. As Senator Sennsenbrenner has pointed out, the published rules of the Comission's call for resignation in the case of such a conflict of interest.

I add my voice to those calling for, not only her resignation, but for her to be a witness before the Commission to explain why the regulations she promulgated went far beyond the legal requirements in force at the time, of seperating areas of involvement of the FBI and the CIA.

Anything less than Ms Gorelick's resignation will taint any findings that this already far too partisan endeavor may set forth. For the 9/11 Commission to be of service to the public, it must be above reproach - and the inclusion of an individual whose acts in government, however sincere at the time, resulted in one of the key impediments to intelligence gathering that might have prevented 9/11 is impermissable. The potential for conflict of interest is far, far to obvious, and, yes, even probable.

I call on you, collectively and individually, to act to resolve this violation of the public trust.

Sincerely:

Name, e-mail, and location.

Freepers - we need to stop this commission from becoming totally usless and totally without credibility. I have watched much of it - it has a chance to do some good, but not with a Comissioner such as Gorelick in place. This is the pot investigating the kettle. Uhh uhh. No way! Help clean up the 9/11 Commission

33 posted on 04/14/2004 10:55:46 PM PDT by HardStarboard ( Wesley...gone. Hillary......not gone enough!)
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To: potlatch; ntnychik; onyx; Alamo-Girl; devolve; MeekOneGOP; ALOHA RONNIE; Happy2BMe
Here's Gorelick's involvement in Chinagate courtesy Alamo-Girl's DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
SECTION: BEHIND THE TREASON ALLEGATIONS
SUBSECTION: JANET RENO & DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Revised 1/8/01
:

Original Sources 3/9/99 Mary Mostert "… In 1996 Bill Clinton told reporters he was "not told about the June 1996 FBI warnings of Communist Chinese involvement in the 1996 presidential election." However, it was later learned that president Clinton not only KNEW about it, but that he subsequently made a thwarted attempt to obtain the counterintelligence information about what the FBI had learned of the Communist Chinese influence on the presidential election in November of 1996. Charles Ruff, Clinton legal counsel who most recently defended him in the Senate Impeachment trial, made the FBI contact. Ruff contacted Janet Reno's deputy JAMIE GORELICK and wanted to know what federal investigators knew or suspected about Chinese illegal contributions to the presidential campaign. However, when FBI director Freeh learned of the White House probe by GORELICK, he ordered the information not be provided to Clinton, federal law enforcement officials told the Daily Republican in 1997. In a New York Times story Ruff was quoted as telling Gorelick he was seeking the information on behalf of the National Security Council…. However, law enforcement officials pointed out that Ruff's request was received only after FBI director Freeh had left Washington on a trip to the Middle East. In his absence, attorney general Janet Reno and GORELICK quickly moved to obtain the secret FBI files. Before the Justice Department turned over the FBI files to Clinton's legal counsel, Robert Bryant, then head of the FBI national security division, picked up the telephone and informed Freeh of Clinton's probe for the secret files on the Chinese investigation. Freeh ordered the files withheld. And people wonder how come the Senate of the United States was never able to get Janet Reno to obey the law of the land and appoint an independent counsel to investigate the Chinese money that helped get Clinton and Gore elected…."

Note: David A. Wise, The Bureau and the Mole, Atlantic Monthly Press, 2002, page 179, Clinton, behind closed doors, says, "Louis Freeh is a g-dd-mn f--king -assh-le."

This ostensibly followed Freeh's public claim that the White House had victimized him [Freeh] and the FBI in Filegate.

Gorelick covered the waterfront for Hillary during the Whitewater heat and apparently helped defend Clifford and Altman in BCCI. Checking.

34 posted on 04/14/2004 10:57:08 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: potlatch; ntnychik; onyx; Alamo-Girl; devolve; MeekOneGOP; ALOHA RONNIE; Happy2BMe
"Who is Jack Ryan?" (Wall Street Journal, Monday, August 1, 1994):

"Attorneys for Mr. Clifford and Mr. Altman included independent counsel Robert Fiske and Deputy Attorney General Jamie GORELICK, as well as Robert Bennett, president Clinton's attorney in the Paula Corbin Jones case."

35 posted on 04/14/2004 11:01:03 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: AlienCrossfirePlayer
Address: National Commission on Terrorist Attacks
201 7th Street SW
Room 5125
Washington DC 20407

Email*: Info@9-11Commission.gov

PHONE: 202-331-4060

FAX: 202-296-5545

*Had trouble getting the email through.....Who knows!
36 posted on 04/14/2004 11:02:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: hoosiermama
Thanks. Pardon me while I put the info to work.
37 posted on 04/14/2004 11:05:53 PM PDT by AlienCrossfirePlayer (proud of our brave warriors)
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To: Kryptonite
You misunderstood re Y2K - they are talking about the millenium bombing plot; however, their reaction is the same, to try and persuade people they should get credit for something a good customs agent on pure luck helped uncover.

Here is most incredible NEWS I find here:

In case anyone was in doubt, Janet Reno herself affirmed the policy several months later in a July 19, 1995, memo that we have unearthed. In it, the then-Attorney General instructs all U.S. Attorneys about avoiding "the appearance" of overlap between intelligence-related activities and law-enforcement operations.

Janet Reno just testified she didn't know about Gorelick's wall!

38 posted on 04/14/2004 11:06:42 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Pukin Dog
The Bush team knew, weeks ago, what was going to come out from Ashcroft's testimony and so they "agreed" to "cave" and let Rice testify. This little masterstroke of sandbagging was, in retrospect, magnificent. Gorelick now has no excuse - -she cannot refuse to testify without looking like the biggest hypocrite on the face of the earth. And the Democrats can only sit by silently and pout. All that's needed now is for the Republicans to duplicate the insidious Democrat catcalls that were directed at Bush when they were trying to force Rice to testify.

I like it.....after their theatrics over Rice, how can they justify Gorelick not testifying?
39 posted on 04/14/2004 11:09:12 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Steven W.
You misunderstood re Y2K - they are talking about the millenium bombing plot.

I continue to place lesser significace on the *plot* you identify than the risk that computers wouldn't recognize the date change and cause unimaginable bedlam, which was the canard the Klintoon administration allowed to fester, and which Gorelick offered as threat deserving of a 9/11-type category on her cable news appearances.

40 posted on 04/14/2004 11:21:18 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: quidnunc
This committee is just a bunch of career politicians and life-long bureaucrats pretending to be doing the work of the people ... part partisan witch hunt, part theater, designed to provide cover to the true nature of the failures before 9/11.

No credibility. No integrity.
41 posted on 04/14/2004 11:24:53 PM PDT by spodefly (I've decided not to include a tagline with this post.)
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To: quidnunc
If Jamie Gorelick were a Republican, you can be sure our colleagues in the Fourth Estate would be leading the chorus of complaint that the Commission's objectivity has been fatally compromised by a member who was also one of the key personalities behind the failed antiterror policy that the Commission has under scrutiny. Where's the outrage?

Outrage became highly selective when America's "Fourth Estate" became integral members of America's subversive "Fifth Column" on or around Richard Nixon's election in 1967.

42 posted on 04/14/2004 11:46:07 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: All
Gorelick's Wall
The Commissioner belongs in the witness chair.

Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT

We predicted Democrats would use the 9/11 Commission for partisan purposes, and that much of the press would oblige. But color us astonished that barely anyone appreciates the significance of the bombshell Attorney General John Ashcroft dropped on the hearings Tuesday. If Jamie Gorelick were a Republican, you can be sure our colleagues in the Fourth Estate would be leading the chorus of complaint that the Commission's objectivity has been fatally compromised by a member who was also one of the key personalities behind the failed antiterror policy that the Commission has under scrutiny. Where's the outrage?

At issue is the pre-Patriot Act "wall" that prevented communication between intelligence agents and criminal investigators--a wall, Mr. Ashcroft said, that meant "the old national intelligence system in place on September 11 was destined to fail." The Attorney General explained:

"In the days before September 11, the wall specifically impeded the investigation into Zacarias Moussaoui, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi. After the FBI arrested Moussaoui, agents became suspicious of his interest in commercial aircraft and sought approval for a criminal warrant to search his computer. The warrant was rejected because FBI officials feared breaching the wall.

"When the CIA finally told the FBI that al-Midhar and al-Hazmi were in the country in late August, agents in New York searched for the suspects. But because of the wall, FBI headquarters refused to allow criminal investigators who knew the most about the most recent al Qaeda attack to join the hunt for the suspected terrorists.

"At that time, a frustrated FBI investigator wrote headquarters, quote, 'Whatever has happened to this--someday someone will die--and wall or not--the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain 'problems.' "

What's more, Mr. Ashcroft noted, the wall did not mysteriously arise: "Someone built this wall." That someone was largely the Democrats, who enshrined Vietnam-era paranoia about alleged FBI domestic spying abuses by enacting the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

Mr. Ashcroft pointed out that the wall was raised even higher in the mid-1990s, in the midst of what was then one of the most important antiterror investigations in American history--into the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. On Tuesday the Attorney General declassified and read from a March 4, 1995, memo in which Jamie Gorelick--then Deputy Attorney General and now 9/11 Commissioner--instructed then-FBI Director Louis Freeh and United States Attorney Mary Jo White that for the sake of "appearances" they would be required to adhere to an interpretation of the wall far stricter than the law required.



Ms. White was then the lead prosecutor in cases related to the Trade Center bombing. Ms. Gorelick explicitly references United States v. Yousef and United States v. Rahman--cases that might have greatly expanded our pre-9/11 understanding of al Qaeda had investigators been given a freer hand. The memo is a clear indication that there was pressure then for more intelligence sharing. Ms. Gorelick's response is an unequivocal "no":

"We believe that it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will more clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations. These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation" (emphases added).

In case anyone was in doubt, Janet Reno herself affirmed the policy several months later in a July 19, 1995, memo that we have unearthed. In it, the then-Attorney General instructs all U.S. Attorneys about avoiding "the appearance" of overlap between intelligence-related activities and law-enforcement operations.

Recall, too, that during the time of Ms. Gorelick's 1995 memo, the issue causing the most tension between the Reno-Gorelick Justice Department and Director Freeh's FBI was not counterterrorism but widely reported allegations of contributions to the Clinton-Gore campaign from foreign sources, involving the likes of John Huang and Charlie Trie. Mr. Trie later told investigators that between 1994 and 1996 he raised some $1.2 million, much of it from foreign sources, whose identities were hidden by straw donors. Ms. Gorelick resigned as deputy attorney general in 1997 to become vice chairman of Fannie Mae.

From any reasonably objective point of view, the Gorelick memo has to count as by far the biggest news so far out of the 9/11 hearings. The Mary Jo White prosecutions and the 2001 Moussaoui arrest were among our best chances to uncover and unravel the al Qaeda network before it struck the homeland. But thanks in part to the Clinton Administration's concern with appearances and in part to its legacy, these investigations were hamstrung.

Ms. Gorelick--an aspirant to Attorney General under a President Kerry--now sits in judgment of the current Administration. This is what, if the principle has any meaning at all, people call a conflict of interest. Henry Kissinger was hounded off the Commission for far less. It's such a big conflict of interest that the White House could hardly be blamed if it decided to cease cooperation with the 9/11 Commission pending Ms. Gorelick's resignation and her testimony under oath as a witness into the mind of the Reno Justice Department. What exactly was the purpose of the wall?
43 posted on 04/15/2004 12:05:16 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Intact - Male - American - Republican - Pro-Bush - PRO-ISRAEL - Pro-War - Pro-Gun - Pro-Life! Next?)
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To: All
IS GORELICKer A GONER?
PRAYERS CALLED FOR!
44 posted on 04/15/2004 12:10:18 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Intact - Male - American - Republican - Pro-Bush - PRO-ISRAEL - Pro-War - Pro-Gun - Pro-Life! Next?)
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To: quidnunc
Thank God (and I'm not even a believer) for the Wall Street Journal's editorial page.

I read Front Page Magazine, World Net Daily, NewsMax, and the Washington Times but they're all, unfortunately, preaching to the choir.

WSJ gets read and this is a good example of its bringing an issue, ignored in the mass media, to the entire country.

45 posted on 04/15/2004 12:11:22 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The past is like a different country, they do things different there.)
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To: ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; onyx; dixiechick2000; Mia T; jennyp; ...

Ah the Clintonistas!

for the 56K dial-uppers this loads the audios fast:

http://www.angelfire.com/film/macny/Hummer.html

for the fast connection bunch:

(and those who will endure loading of larger audio files)

http://www.angelfire.com/film/macny/Hum.html


46 posted on 04/15/2004 12:11:59 AM PDT by devolve (................... ...........................Hello from Sunny South Florida!..........)
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To: onyx; RonDog; maica; Howlin
What kind of alternate universe sci-fi channel world have we landed in?

There's a rotting putrid 'rat carcass floating in the punch bowl, and all our spineless RINO commissioners can do is grin like idiots.

47 posted on 04/15/2004 12:48:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
There's a rotting putrid 'rat carcass floating in the punch bowl, and all our spineless RINO commissioners can do is grin like idiots.




Correct. THEY are the problem.
They're passive.
Why wasn't former OK Governor Frank Keating asked to chair the commission?
Look at the wimps on our side.
This is thee golden opportunity.
The GOP ought to be flooding every news show.
We are the stupid party.
They're the evil party.
Can stupid defeat evil?
Stay tuned.



48 posted on 04/15/2004 12:55:24 AM PDT by onyx (Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold)
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To: quidnunc; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts
GORELICK GATE: Developing...
various FR links | 04-14-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
49 posted on 04/15/2004 1:26:43 AM PDT by backhoe (Another artifact left over from The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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To: PhilDragoo; JohnHuang2; Diogenesis; potlatch; ntnychik; onyx; Alamo-Girl; devolve; MeekOneGOP; ...
Who decided Gorelick (GORE-LICK) had the credientials and requirements to be on the commission anyway?

It had to have been agreed on in a bipartisan meeting somewhere with Republicans giving her the nod at the outset of the hearings, now didn't it?

This will be another "test" to see if these hearings are bonafide legitimate or bonafide whitewash.

Unless Gorelick comes off the panel, we have another McCarthy Inquisition on our hands.

50 posted on 04/15/2004 1:35:52 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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