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Kerry to Propose Eliminating a Tax Break on U.S. Companies' Overseas Profits
NY Times ^ | 3/26/04 | Edmund L. Andrews and Jodi Wilgoren

Posted on 03/25/2004 8:22:15 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON, March 25 — Responding to widespread anxiety about the movement of American jobs overseas, Senator John Kerry plans to propose on Friday a sweeping revision of international corporate taxes intended to prompt companies to invest more money in the United States.

Aides said Mr. Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, would also challenge President Bush by saying his administration would spawn 10 million additional jobs over four years. Democrats often point out that more than two million jobs have been lost since Mr. Bush became president.

In a speech he is scheduled to deliver at Wayne State University in Detroit, a city that has been plagued by job losses in manufacturing, Mr. Kerry is to propose eliminating a major tax break on profits earned by American companies overseas and using that money to reduce the tax rate for all corporations.

"You know, economic plans aren't just about dollars and decimals — they're about choices," Mr. Kerry plans to say, according to excerpts of his prepared text provided by his campaign Thursday evening. "Time after time, this administration has put ideology first and jobs last. Today, I'm announcing a new economic plan for America that will put jobs first."

With voters saying that the economy is still the most important issue in the election, Mr. Kerry's speech is designed to begin a new economic policy offensive. It represents an approach that sounds some of the same notes as his frequent denunciation of "Benedict Arnold C.E.O.'s" during the Democratic primaries, yet is more sympathetic to business.

Kerry campaign officials said they hoped his proposal would appeal to people concerned about the loss of jobs to low-wage countries like China and India. But by advocating a crackdown on international companies but not an increase in the overall level of corporate taxes, the campaign is trying to avoid angering the business community.

"This is pure tax reform," said Gene Sperling, a top economic adviser to Mr. Kerry who also served as a senior policy adviser to President Bill Clinton. "He is eliminating tax incentives to move jobs overseas and using those funds to create incentives for new jobs and investment in the United States."

Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for President Bush's re-election campaign, denounced the proposals as "window dressing" and said that Mr. Bush supported a more comprehensive approach to job creation.

"John Kerry's proposal does not make the kind of fundamental reform that will make U.S. firms more competitive in the global environment," Mr. Schmidt said, adding that Mr. Kerry was "obstructionist" on job-creating engines like opening foreign markets, reducing regulation and lowering taxes.

On Thursday, Mr. Bush continued insisting that the economy was improving. "So we've been through recession, an attack, corporate scandals and war," he said at New Hampshire Community Technical College in Nashua. "And yet our economy is growing and getting stronger."

The essence of the Kerry plan boils down to two main elements.

The first would be eliminating the ability of American multinational companies to defer taxes on their foreign profits as long as those profits stay outside the United States. That would raise about $12 billion a year in extra tax revenue, which Mr. Kerry would use to reduce the overall corporate tax rate to 33.25 percent from 35 percent.

"If a company is torn between creating jobs here or overseas, we now have a tax code that has American taxpayers paying to ship jobs overseas," Mr. Kerry plans to say in Friday's speech. "That makes no sense. And if I am president, it will end."

Analysts on Wall Street have estimated that American companies have accumulated more than $400 billion in overseas profits, and multinationals are pushing for bills in Congress that would reduce taxes on foreign profits by as much as $37 billion over the next 10 years.

"The reason all that money is held overseas is because our international tax system does not prevent the double taxation of foreign source income," said John J. Castellani, president of the Business Roundtable, a lobbying organization that represents the chief executives of large corporations.

Many independent economists questioned Mr. Kerry's underlying assumption that the tax code plays a significant role in corporate decisions to set up factories overseas.

"My sense is that it is not usually the decisive factor," said Edward McKelvey, a senior economist at Goldman Sachs. "Normally, companies go offshore either because of cost reasons — labor costs, materials costs — or for market access reasons. Countries tell you that if you want to sell here, you need to be here."

Campaign officials acknowledged that the new plan would not stop the broader trend of outsourcing jobs to low-wage countries. But they said it would at least remove what they called a bias in the tax system that encourages such practices.

To sweeten his proposal for business, Mr. Kerry also borrowed an idea supported by many Republicans. In addition to reducing the corporate tax rate, the plan would give American multinational companies a one-year "tax holiday" under which they could bring their accumulated foreign profits back to the United States at a tax rate of only 10 percent.

Economic advisers to Mr. Kerry said the tax holiday would actually lead to a short-term windfall in tax revenues, because companies would have a special incentive to bring back hundreds of billions of dollars that have been sitting untaxed overseas.

Under the plan, the government would use that windfall to pay for a two-year tax credit to companies that create new jobs.




TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; benedictarnolds; companies; eliminating; kerry; overseasprofits; propose; taxbreak
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1 posted on 03/25/2004 8:22:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
a smart move by Kerry, this offshoring issue is huge.
2 posted on 03/25/2004 8:25:46 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Kerry campaign officials said they hoped his proposal would appeal to people concerned about the loss of jobs to low-wage countries like China and India. But by advocating a crackdown on international companies but not an increase in the overall level of corporate taxes, the campaign is trying to avoid angering the business community.

We'll see how it plays in Peoria.. and Singapore . ;-)

3 posted on 03/25/2004 8:27:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Thrash the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
only Peoria matters.

you can still be a conservative and recognize that the current corporate tax laws are insane. Intel can build a plant in China, using equipment purchased in Japan and South Korea, and get a US tax writeoff for it.
4 posted on 03/25/2004 8:30:57 PM PST by oceanview
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To: NormsRevenge
Why doesn't he propose to Teresa that she move the 69 manufacturing plants that are overseas including China back to the USA? How's that for a proposal?
5 posted on 03/25/2004 8:32:17 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Sure he will. I hope no one thinks for a minute big money Kerry will propose anything like this.
6 posted on 03/25/2004 8:34:28 PM PST by dalebert
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To: NormsRevenge
Uh huh....that's TODAYS proposal....I'll wait for tomorrow, Mr. Flip Flop.
7 posted on 03/25/2004 8:36:42 PM PST by goodnesswins (The Democrat "Funeral" is on.....dum..dum..di...dum.)
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To: NormsRevenge
If this is all it is--eliminating tax breaks on overseas profits--I think that would be a stupid idea. Absolutely stupid.

If we want to fix the problems in the American and Global economies (yes the Global economy) what America should do, is either A) cut taxes on companies that import only from countries that have an inked FTA with the US. or B) levy a tarriff on those ONLY from non FTA holding countries, or raise corporate rates on those importing from non-FTA countries.

Its either an incentive, or a disincentive, but the end result is to trade more with people willing to actually trade with us.

Raising taxes on overseas profits is a BAD idea.

8 posted on 03/25/2004 8:38:40 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: NormsRevenge
Is this 'flip' or 'flop?' I agree with him and I just want to know where I stand.
9 posted on 03/25/2004 8:41:10 PM PST by Petronski (Kerry went to Vietnam...yadda yadda yadda...he should be President...)
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To: oceanview
If they buy stuff from Korea, and Taiwan, and build a plant in Japan...thats fine...just so long as they sell the end product in Taiwan, Korea, and Japan.

Under that circumstance they SHOULD get a tax writeoff/break for it.

Of course that is NOT what is happening, nor the problem, but should it happen, thats a good thing.

10 posted on 03/25/2004 8:43:05 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: oceanview
a smart move by Kerry, this offshoring issue is huge.

Very smart since it has almost zero to do with why jobs are outsourced, but sounds like it. Kerry the "free" trader gets to pretend he's going to do something about jobs while not offending his corporate benefactors.

11 posted on 03/25/2004 8:43:11 PM PST by Shermy
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To: maui_hawaii
why should US taxpayers subsidize Intel for building a plant that employs no americans?
12 posted on 03/25/2004 8:52:05 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Because under the model mentioned above, its not at all subsidizing. Under those circumstances, lets map out how it works:

Private investors give money to Intel, whether its banks or whoever.

They put a factory in Japan and sell products to Japanese, Korea, and Taiwanese consumers.

The profits are sent back home. Because of the economic situation overseas profits there are about 10 notches below US profits. In order to make them more profitable we have to lower the taxes. Investment is not a zero sum game. There isn't a limited number of dollars to be invested. There is however a limited number of consumers.

Its essentially tapping into a market that otherwise doesn't exist for us. We are rounding up foreign money and actually bringing it back home. In the end you employ more Americans under that scenario.

Under that model we are not nessarily buying from Japan and selling in America...

I understand what you are trying to accomplish, and I agree with the goal, but this is a bad way to do it.

Tax breaks like that though cannot be all lumped in together. Companies all have different models. Some should be rewarded but others should not.

For companies that ultimately ignore the demand in their host country (like China) and want to supplant our production for theirs...thats a different story.

13 posted on 03/25/2004 9:05:55 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: oceanview
How will raising taxes help make jobs??

Thats stupid.

14 posted on 03/25/2004 9:10:00 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: oceanview
In order to accomplish our end goals of profits but also employing Americans--we need look long and hard and one thing--actual consumer driven demand in foreign markets, and we should encourage more investment in those that allow us to tap those markets.

That is a HELL of a lot more important than who is cheaper on an absolute scale.

We have to reward the demand with tax breaks, not who is more cheap than his neighbor.

15 posted on 03/25/2004 9:10:29 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: GeronL
It can, but depends on how and where the taxes are levied.

We have to play kung fu master with the code (as it is now) but raising some taxes in some areas sometimes is very good for our economy.

It depends on a bigger strategy, rather than just 'raising taxes'...

16 posted on 03/25/2004 9:13:09 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Raising taxes is never a benefit for the economy.
17 posted on 03/25/2004 9:15:45 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: GeronL
Barbara Streisand

It depends on the tax. Income tax, no. Income tax sucks.

Taxation on business should fit the national strategy. Certain taxes and tarriffs are good for the economy. Certain taxes are great for the economy, especially when talking about trade and global development.

18 posted on 03/25/2004 9:20:14 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Like the sugar tariff?? Protect 300 jobs in Louisiana by making sugar prices twice as high as the rest of the planet and force thousands and thousands of jobs into Canada and Mexico.
19 posted on 03/25/2004 9:22:35 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: GeronL
No, not like sugar tarriffs.
20 posted on 03/25/2004 9:27:18 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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