The deadly "utility knife".
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To: GrandEagle
If I shot someone eight times and claimed he'd lunged at me with a 'utility knife' (box cutter?), I'd be very suprised if more didn't happen to me than getting rewarded with a couple of weeks of paid time off.
2 posted on
03/11/2004 5:47:44 AM PST by
zeugma
(The Great Experiment is over.)
To: GrandEagle
A man is dead after Mobile police open fire in a crowded shopping center parking lot.Sensational TV news copy at its finest.
3 posted on
03/11/2004 5:52:44 AM PST by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: GrandEagle
But now, that woman is demanding justice: saying a small man with a box-cutter posed no threat to the officers.If I take a utility knife or box cutter and cut about an inch deep into someone's throat, I guess there must be no real danger. Think Mohammed Atta.
To: GrandEagle
Stewart pulled out a carpet-cutter and lunged towards them Here's you answer: Dumb@$$ relative brought a carpet cutter to a gunfight with two cops. If breathing and heartbeat required conscious thought he'd a been dead long ago.
6 posted on
03/11/2004 5:58:15 AM PST by
Feckless
To: GrandEagle
Hey, police in my home town shot a man dead who was armed with a steak knife. The officers ween't within 20 feet of the guy, but they killed him. I guess the guy looked hungry.
7 posted on
03/11/2004 5:58:23 AM PST by
WV Mountain Mama
(I am the anti-soccor mom, hear my SUV roar!)
To: GrandEagle
But now, that woman is demanding justice: saying a small man with a box-cutter posed no threat to the officers.The 9/11 hijackers were armed only with utility knives. A razor sharp utility knife can easily cut someone's throat.
10 posted on
03/11/2004 6:02:10 AM PST by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: GrandEagle
As a former MP I can assure you that we would have the guy with carpet cutter down and handcuffed in about one minute. We had to wade into situations where fists, feet, knives, bar stools and beer bottles were flying. We worked as a team and jumped in and settled the matter without pulling our 45s and blasting away.
To assess a situation and use deadly force as the first option when presented with a threat is an indication of poor training. The guy with the knife should be sitting in a cell right now - maybe with a few body parts not feeling too well - not laying on a slab in the morgue. What these cops did is inexcusable.
23 posted on
03/11/2004 6:43:18 AM PST by
sergeantdave
(Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
To: GrandEagle
When they attempted to calm him down, You! Changing your tire! Yes You!! CALM DOWN! NOW!!
30 posted on
03/11/2004 6:57:33 AM PST by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: GrandEagle
Sounds like a situation for a tazer.
31 posted on
03/11/2004 7:00:35 AM PST by
Sloth
(We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
To: GrandEagle
We recently got tazers. Really good when they work. About a month ago some nut showed up on a guys porch with a large ax. Said he was going to kill the guy because he made fun of God. Our guys got there and sarge tazed him. Didn't completely work and the guy held onto the ax.
About a week ago some guy dragged one of our guys in a car for awhile and then there was a car chase. When they finally surrounded him they had to taze him. Didn't work. Barbs stuck in his coat and he was still able to fight.
I've seen what a box cutter can do to people. You wanna chance a tazer that doesn't work all the time? Or take a few zips across the face and throat by a razor?
Come at me with a razor and I'm emptying my full mag of .45, I don't care if he weighs 50 lbs.
To: GrandEagle
I think it was Street Survival that used to show an autopsy of a cop stabbed to death with a table fork. I saw the pictures.
To: GrandEagle
It is apparent that most of you do not understand how dangerous knives can be. It takes approximately 3 seconds for a person with a knife to reach a target 21 feet away. Real life is not Hollywood where armed thugs are disarmed without a shot being fired. Moreover, if you knew anything about guns you would know that it often takes more than one shot to stop a perpetrator. Especially a drunk emotionally disturbed one. I'm surprised that these good officers fired ONLY 8 SHOTS. Must of hit a vital area. If these officers did not use deadly physical force and decided to handle it 'the liberal way', they would have been seriously injured and possibly killed. It does not matter the size of the perp, he was emotionally disturbed. Got it, you Monday morning quarterbacks?
42 posted on
03/11/2004 7:23:12 AM PST by
EAGLE7
To: GrandEagle
As an ex-Dallas PD officer, any respectable officer that knows how to use their baton, or even fight for that matter, should have been able to deal with this efficiently without using deadly force...8 times????? Geez. ~sigh~
Hope they can live with what they did. It won't be as easy as you might think later on.
A well-conditioned young man picked up a 10 GAL jar of change [full!] during a family disturbance and raised it over his head and threatened to throw it at us. Did we frickin shoot him?? HEDOUBLEHOCKEYSTICKS NO! Could we have legally? Yes.
45 posted on
03/11/2004 7:30:35 AM PST by
Indie
(The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
To: All; biblewonk
The moral of the story: "Never bring/swing a carpet knife to/in a gun fight" (especially when it's you vs. eight cops). Duh.
This reminds me of the local high-on-methamphetamine, disarmed punk "victim" who was recently shot dead by a LEO as the punk was attempting to drive off in the LEO's squad car. The LEO was deemed justified by some investigative body. The dead man's family remains p*ssed.
Sorry, folks but, I have nearly zero sympathy for a crazed, intoxicated idiot who tries something stupid within shooting range of an officer who's sworn to protect the citizens.
Do your drugs at home, and stay there. Otherwise, if anybody's going to end up dead, it had better be you.</rant>
48 posted on
03/11/2004 7:39:06 AM PST by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: GrandEagle
Sounds like suicide by police officer to me.
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