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Poison politics and California's 'unholy trinity'
Sac Bee ^ | 3/10/04 | Peter Schrag

Posted on 03/10/2004 8:57:56 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:06:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

When he was sworn in as Assembly speaker last month, Fabian Nunez issued brave words about a new spirit of cooperation and bipartisanship in Sacramento. But everything in the system that put him in his exalted position says precisely the opposite.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; californias; openprimary; poison; politics; trinity; unholy

1 posted on 03/10/2004 8:57:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002; california
hums a little Neil Sedaka.. "breaking up is hard to do" .. can't wait! ;-]
2 posted on 03/10/2004 8:58:56 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Defeat the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"bipartisan" to a leftist socialist/communist means: "You agree with me"
3 posted on 03/10/2004 9:02:44 AM PST by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hearing complaints about gerrymandered districts from Garry South.....my head hurts from spinning.

In 1990, there was a ballot initiative to remove redistricting from the legislature. The Democrats were terrified that it would pass. So they got all their favorite interest groups like the Sierra Club and the unions to run dozens of misleading ads saying that the initiative was a plot by big business to "take away the people's rights" and would result in more environmental damage, pollution, runaway development, lower wages, cuts in school funding, the usual parade of horribles. It worked, and the initiative failed. Guess who helped produce those ads for the Sierra Club? Garry South!!! Well, now he has got what he wanted. A freshman Speaker who was elected with 11,000 votes!

Gerrymandering is going to lead to the death of republican government in America. It's already happened in California. I don't care if it is helping Republicans in other states like Texas, it is wrong and it is a cancer that is eating away at the fabric of our constitutional system. "In other democracies, voters pick their representatives, but in America, representatives pick their voters." Are YOU happy living in this kind of system??? I sure as hell am not!!!

4 posted on 03/10/2004 10:19:12 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Except for the one who married me!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge; FairOpinion
South is a member of a bipartisan group, among them former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, now Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's education secretary, and state Controller Steve Westly, a Democrat, backing an initiative that would restore California's open primary.

The objective is to marginalize conservatives. Anyone who can't see that Arnold is backing a measure whereby Democrats would select Republican candidates is deaf, blind, and dumb. It's likely to get worse, much worse.

Those who backed Schwarzenegger can now take a bow.

5 posted on 03/10/2004 11:05:03 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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The result, says Garry South, who until 2002 was Gov. Gray Davis' political guru, is that most legislators know little about the general electorate and "don't give a s---what the voters think." Or as a leading Sacramento business activist put it: "Up here they're stars ... at home they're nothing; nobody knows them."

Good job on Loserman's campaign, Gary. :-)

6 posted on 03/10/2004 11:58:09 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Thrash the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
California's 'unholy trinity' compared to Louisiana's Holy Trinity: Bell Pepper, Celery, and Onions?
7 posted on 03/10/2004 12:44:59 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Carry_Okie

Carry_Okie: "Anyone who can't see that Arnold is backing a measure "

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Here you go again. The article DOES NOT say that Schwarzenegger backs the open primary proposition, yet you make the FALSE statement that Arnold IS backing it.

If all you guys can do is MAKE THINGS UP about Arnold, then attack what you claim he said or stand for, when in fact there is absolutely NO evidence to support your claim, you are just losing credibility completely.

It means that Arnold is so good, and so Republican and so conservative, that you can't find anything he really said or did to criticize, so you are reducing yourselves to making things up about him out of whole cloth, also called LYING, just so you can attack him.

As I said before, if you spent 10% as much time as you are spending trying to make things up about Arnold, researching Democrats and working for Republicans to get elected, we may have more Republicans in the CA Legislature. But obviously you have no interest in defeating the Democrats, you are spending all your time attacking the ONLY Republican who was elected to CA statewide office -- no thanks to you.

The Democrats could hardly find better supporters.

8 posted on 03/10/2004 1:57:23 PM PST by FairOpinion ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country." --- G. W. Bush)
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To: Thud
ping
9 posted on 03/10/2004 2:19:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: NormsRevenge
South is a member of a bipartisan group, among them former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan, now Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's education secretary, and state Controller Steve Westly

bipartisan?

10 posted on 03/10/2004 2:20:47 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Bipartisan is not non-partisan, though I agree that any committee with South on it is useless.
11 posted on 03/10/2004 4:11:16 PM PST by Thud
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