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Gays use PC to tilt standards
The Forum (Fargo-Moorhead) ^ | 7 March 2004 | Ross Nelson

Posted on 03/07/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by Vigilanteman

Never underestimate the power of political correctness to banish rationality from the field. Gay marriage is the latest symptom of a PC outbreak.

Last month the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court claimed that gay marriage was constitutionally required. Then we had San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome carrying out hundreds of attempts at gay weddings, with Mayor Jason West of New Paltz, New York, trying his hand at it, too. The weddings have all been illegal, but the real scandal is the reasoning our oh-so-current citizens are using to justify them.

One constant refrain is that marriage is only about a “loving and committed relationship,” gender no object. Really? If that is the main criterion why couldn’t brothers marry sisters or one man many women? One media commentator said that those relationships wouldn’t work because they were against the law (apparently forgetting that gay marriage is, too) and that they were too extreme. But having already rejected any kind of standard other than “true love” he leaves himself with nothing to back his opinion except a gut repugnance.

Let’s take a real-life example. Kathryn Harrison wrote an autobiography titled “The Kiss,” in which she reveals the four-year, voluntary sexual relationship she had with her father starting when she was 20. Suppose she and her father applied to Mayor West for a wedding license. On what grounds could he possibly refuse them that would not equally apply to a man wishing to marry a man? Having stepped onto the slippery slope, advocates of gay marriage almost immediately slide to the bottom.

Undaunted, our free-thinkers pule that somehow limiting marriage to a man and woman restricts their rights. But just as certain people have no right to marry each other (see above examples; you can think of others on your own), even if it makes them “equal” to married couples, so there is no right for a man to marry a man or a woman to marry a woman.

Marriage has several purposes, one of which is to ensure the health and safety of children. As columnist nonpareil Joseph Sobran points out, even if there were a society that openly and universally embraced homosexuality, it would still have to have a marriage arrangement for those men and women who wanted children.

Telling parents, for example, that they cannot marry their children doesn’t render them as “less human,” but as ineligible and inappropriate as partners in such marital relationships.

Defenders of gay marriage argue that it doesn’t threaten anyone else, so we shouldn’t be concerned. Unfortunately this point also applies to polygamy and incestuous marriages. Therefore, anything goes?

Professor Larry Peterson in the Feb. 29 Forum tries another critical approach. Marriage has changed so much over the centuries, he maintains (and cites a long list of examples), that gay marriage is just one more step in the series. Somehow he overlooks the point that all his cases still deal with man-woman relationships, not man-man or woman-woman. He confuses quantitative with qualitative change.

I queried both a staunch, well-informed Catholic layman and a local Catholic official about Peterson’s claim that the Catholic Church performed same-sex unions that were nearly identical to its heterosexual variety. Both claim his statement is baseless.

The PC push for gay marriage reinforces the point made many years ago concerning gay activists: while they seemed to be working only toward tolerance of their sexual orientation, their ultimate goal was total acceptance by society. And so it has been. Gays now present us this false dilemma: be a bigot, or accept homosexual behavior as utterly normal.

Nelson is a Fargo postal worker and regular contributor to The Forum’s commentary pages. He can be reached at r.cnelson@702com.net


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Minnesota; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: anarchy; gays; genderneutralagenda; homosexualagenda; incest; marriage; polygomy; prisoners; romans1; slipperyslope; vice; vicenotvirtue
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Common sense from the heartland . . .
1 posted on 03/07/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman
I thought gays used Macs?
2 posted on 03/07/2004 7:18:21 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: Vigilanteman
I always knew the folks in "flyover country" were smarter than the "enlightened" libs.
3 posted on 03/07/2004 7:19:29 PM PST by JRios1968 (Proud to wear Air Force Blue...since 1993!)
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To: JRios1968
Let's clear up something about the term "gay marriage". It isn't "gay" and it isn't "marriage".
4 posted on 03/07/2004 7:24:04 PM PST by BrucefromMtVernon
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To: BrucefromMtVernon
Let's clear up something about the term "gay marriage". It isn't "gay" and it isn't "marriage".

It's important to not use the word "marriage" when discussing this issue - there's no such thing as "gay marriage". I prefer "gay unions", or "homosexual unions".

5 posted on 03/07/2004 7:30:51 PM PST by WillL
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To: WillL
"homosexual unions"

There is nothing sexual about gay unions. They can't have sex.
6 posted on 03/07/2004 7:34:39 PM PST by rogueleader
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To: Vigilanteman
Only one problem with this guy's assertions concerning the incest slippery slope.

The first tack they try in reality is that they'll say it's illegal because of potentially deformed children.

So, you stipulate that one or both of them undergo voluntary sterilization. So what then?

Then, yes, believe it or not, they'll say "Oh, well, then I can't see why it shouldn't be legal."

These people really live in a moral vacuum.

Qwinn
7 posted on 03/07/2004 7:43:57 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: WillL
Arguing gays need the right to marry is like arguing men need the right to have an abortion. A meaningless contradiction of terms.

miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure war criminal

8 posted on 03/07/2004 7:50:17 PM PST by Fun Bob
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To: Vigilanteman
Marriage is about 95% of the people who agree that 5% of the people should not be able to desicrate the traditional majority definition of marriage. Flaunting activists exist to rub in the face hiding behind a guize of so called civil rights. Well the majority has civil rights as well and will fervently resist any changes to exclusive tradition.

This crap of small groups being able to rule the majority has to stop dead in it's tracks or anarchy will prevail.
Civilization has to have rules and boundarys to establish law and order. Granting exclusive privlige to the smallest segment of the population only fuels civil disorder from otherwise law abiding citizens. The queers are about to open up a can of whoop ass.
9 posted on 03/07/2004 7:50:55 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: EdReform; little jeremiah
great article ping!
10 posted on 03/07/2004 7:51:53 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture, Straights - now more than ever)
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To: rogueleader
Certainly not by Clinton's definition!
11 posted on 03/07/2004 7:58:36 PM PST by jwalburg (Gimli supports Bush)
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To: Incorrigible
"I thought gays used Macs?"

Sorry, but that rumor has been proven to be wrong.

However, it IS true that nine out of ten masochists prefer PC's running Microsoft software.

12 posted on 03/07/2004 8:19:05 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Elliott Jackalope; JackelopeBreeder
This is o/t but do you too know each other?

If not...well you do now :)
13 posted on 03/07/2004 8:22:57 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture, Straights - now more than ever)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
No. Just similar names.
14 posted on 03/07/2004 8:23:57 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Why should gays have all the civil benefits of marriage, while I, as the unmarried mother of three cats, am not allowed tax deductions for my dependents? I am not eligible for so much as a WIC check.

That I should receive such benefits is preposterous, but so is the proposition that gays have the right to draw the line.
15 posted on 03/07/2004 8:33:46 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Secret ZotLurker)
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To: WillL
I wouldn't even call it a "union."
16 posted on 03/07/2004 8:35:04 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Secret ZotLurker)
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To: Vigilanteman
Father who married daughter ordered back to prison
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1086646/posts


17 posted on 03/07/2004 8:52:22 PM PST by quietolong
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To: I_Love_My_Husband; Elliott Jackalope
Elliott has been accused of being me in the past. He should have sued the accuser for slander. My face upsets little old ladies, small children, dogs, and traffic cops.
18 posted on 03/07/2004 9:05:24 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: quietolong
It ain't called the "slippery slope" for nothin'!
19 posted on 03/07/2004 10:05:37 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Give gays all the benefits of marriage? As the unmarried mother of 3 cats, I can't get a WIC check!)
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To: Incorrigible
But not all mac-users are gay?

I thought gays built Macs??

20 posted on 03/07/2004 10:21:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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