New flag riles Southerners

Washington Times ^ | 3/04/04 | AP

[kattracks]

ATLANTA (AP)

[StarCMC]

What a stupid idiotic thing to do. When will people realize that slavery was NOT the main issue of the Civil War. I am SO tired of these lies.

Ping ot something you'll NOT appreciate, SW!

[Agnes Heep]

A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union

In the momentous step, which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product, which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove.

The hostility to this institution commenced before the adoption of the Constitution, and was manifested in the well-known Ordinance of 1787, in regard to the Northwestern Territory.

The feeling increased, until, in 1819-20, it deprived the South of more than half the vast territory acquired from France.

The same hostility dismembered Texas and seized upon all the territory acquired from Mexico.

It has grown until it denies the right of property in slaves, and refuses protection to that right on the high seas, in the Territories, and wherever the government of the United States had jurisdiction.

It refuses the admission of new slave States into the Union, and seeks to extinguish it by confining it within its present limits, denying the power of expansion.

It tramples the original equality of the South under foot.

It has nullified the Fugitive Slave Law in almost every free State in the Union, and has utterly broken the compact, which our fathers pledged their faith to maintain.

It advocates negro equality, socially and politically, and promotes insurrection and incendiarism in our midst.

It has enlisted its press, its pulpit and its schools against us, until the whole popular mind of the North is excited and inflamed with prejudice.

It has made combinations and formed associations to carry out its schemes of emancipation in the States and wherever else slavery exists.

It seeks not to elevate or to support the slave, but to destroy his present condition without providing a better.

It has invaded a State, and invested with the honors of martyrdom the wretch whose purpose was to apply flames to our dwellings, and the weapons of destruction to our lives.

It has broken every compact into which it has entered for our security.

It has given indubitable evidence of its design to ruin our agriculture, to prostrate our industrial pursuits and to destroy our social system.

It knows no relenting or hesitation in its purposes; it stops not in its march of aggression, and leaves us no room to hope for cessation or for pause.

It has recently obtained control of the Government, by the prosecution of its unhallowed schemes, and destroyed the last expectation of living together in friendship and brotherhood.

Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.

Our decision is made. We follow their footsteps. We embrace the alternative of separation; and for the reasons here stated, we resolve to maintain our rights with the full consciousness of the justice of our course, and the undoubting belief of our ability to maintain it.

[Afro_conservative]

So these people are "stupid" and "idiotic" for approving a new state flag and those who protest are right, but those who protest against the stars and bars are "stupid" and "idiotic" and those who voted to keep it the state flag are right? What stance do you southerners have are you guys related to flip flop Kerry? The Law is the Law and now this is the Law, deal with it.

[Paul C. Jesup]

The Law is the Law and now this is the Law, deal with it.

The motto of every tyrant and jack-booted thug to ever walk the earth.

[longtermmemmory]

I don't have any position on this other than, the shuold have let all three versions in the election and left it at that. It was a dumb move to not have the old flag rejected outright. They should have had more faith in the voters.

[Afro_conservative]

LOL whatever flip flop Kerry

[Paul C. Jesup]

You circular logic is laughable at best.

[GeronL]

anyone got a pic of the new flag??

[Afro_conservative]

Oh my feelings are hurt...hey lets continue to argue on the internet if that makes you feel better. Do I need to take a sensitivity class so you southern DemocRats feel better.

[GeronL]

I have noticed some southerners have an affinity for the Confederate Battle Flag but the official Flag of the Confederacy is almost unknown to them.

[EGPWS]

What a stupid idiotic thing to do. When will people realize that slavery was NOT the main issue of the Civil War. I am SO tired of these lies.

Yes, one would think that if any group would take issue with it that it would be the people of ALL backgrounds and their descendants that have resided North of the Mason-Dixon line.

But, this isn't the case.

Go figure!

[Afro_conservative]

I have also noted that some southerners whine like liberal crybabies when their flag is taken away. Why is it that way. The law is the law and people should follow the law. One guy above me said i was a tyrant for saying people should follow the law. I guess when people have their toys taken away they also lose their logic and common sense. Next thing you know I will say people shouldn't drink and drive and I'll be called Un-American.

[Leroy S. Mort]

[Paul C. Jesup]

Do I need to take a sensitivity class so you southern DemocRats feel better.

I am a Republican who sees your circular logic for the stupidity it is. "The Law is The Law" is the one of the worst justifications one can come up with because it uses no moral reason for it to exist, but merely states that since it exists that it is right.

[Afro_conservative]

I like this flag

[spodefly]

I was born here. I voted yesterday. The new flag is the flag of the Confederacy with a Georgia state seal, and 13 stars for the original 13 states. It's a great flag.

Let's move on.

[Afro_conservative]

you assumed that I said obey a law without any justification and for that you are at fault for not wanting to know what the reasons where, but you know you just want to whine like the Southern DemocRat that you guys are.

[Afro_conservative]

It's pretty and whats better is that no one can use this flag as a crutch to protest or whine, unless you are a stars and bars fanatic.

[GeronL]

If they want to fly the stars and bars at home, they can. It just won't be official any more.