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Cox & Forkum ^ | February 26, 2004 | Cox & Forkum

Posted on 03/03/2004 9:29:10 AM PST by optimistically_conservative



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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From Instapundit:
People like me make up a bloc of sorts for this president, too: call it the "war base," perhaps. But I have found that the President's clarity of vision following 9/11 has not been maintained as the news cycle bogs down over the many months with Iraq and its reconstruction.
USS Clueless on WoT.

Saying "I'm a war president" is different from being a war president. Bush "talks the talk" but is he satisfying his "war base" that he is "walking the walk"?

1 posted on 03/03/2004 9:29:10 AM PST by optimistically_conservative
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To: optimistically_conservative
Yes, he is. Next question...
2 posted on 03/03/2004 9:30:08 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: optimistically_conservative
This comic works on so many levels.
3 posted on 03/03/2004 9:32:25 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Doug Loss
Yes, he is.

Really? What have we accomplished? Which battles have we won? What is the strength of AQ and international terrorism now? Are we winning, losing, or locked in a deadly struggle being played out by proxy in Iraq and Afghanistan?

His SOTU flopped and MTP interview lacked any muster. He has been on the defensive for months on the war, jobs and the economy. He has not appeared as a wartime leader in a long time. He has allowed his opposition to define the issues.


4 posted on 03/03/2004 9:40:30 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous. T.B.)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Please see:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1066122/posts
5 posted on 03/03/2004 9:56:14 AM PST by RebelBanker (Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Since I have the intellectual depth of an oil slick, I am going to parrot something I heard on the radio this morning that sounded interesting.

"The problem is that the public doesn't feel as if we are at war."

While it is true that the Prez. is a wartime president and he is acting like one, the public cannot connect his statements and actions with their experience.

If this is true, it will hurt Bush as more people say to themselves, "What war?" Consequently, Kerry (aka Herman Munster without the humor) will keep harping on economic issues like jobs outsourcing, jobless recovery, you name it.

I don't know if this will turn out to be true or if this will hurt Bush. Just my observations.

6 posted on 03/03/2004 10:02:37 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
That's a deep oil slick you've got there.

Part of the problem is after 9/11 Bush came out, rightfully, saying "I've got this, we can't let the terrorists win by changing our normal routine."

Well, people are soooo back to normality that the Dims have effectively distracted everyone into believing that 5.6% unemployment and dropping is the number one issue and 4% growth after 8.2% growth represents an economy in trouble.

HELLOOOOO?

Maybe it's a genetic problem, but I'm sitting here wondering if it's the administration's fault that America isn't being led by cheerleaders rallying us around our troops and our successes or it can be blamed all on the media that has pounded home defeatism, woe and worry while practicing the art of omission.

Either way, it's Bush's job to get the word out and enthuse the voters come November.
7 posted on 03/03/2004 11:44:29 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous. T.B.)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Really? What have we accomplished? Which battles have we won? What is the strength of AQ and international terrorism now? Are we winning, losing, or locked in a deadly struggle being played out by proxy in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Here are some better questions for you:
1. Is the Taliban now OUT OF POWER in Afghanistan?
2. Has Hussein been been REMOVED FROM POWER in Iraq?
3. Is the Hussein regime totally eliminated (by capture or death) from power in Iraq?
4. How many attacks has al qaeda successfully carried out on American soil since 9/11/01?

Here are the answers to your questions:

What have we accomplished? We have defeated and eliminated two oppressive, totalitarian, terrorist-sponsoring regimes from power and in doing so gotten the attention and cooperation of several others.

Which battles have we won? Battles of Kabul, Baghdad, Mosul, and several others.

What is the strength of AQ and international terrorism now? Severely diminished, running for cover, hiding and afraid to show their faces. Funds have been curtailed; recruiting efforts are hampered. Their activities and attacks are limited for the most part to third world hellholes and not against private American citizens' interests.

Are we winning, losing, or locked in a deadly struggle being played out by proxy in Iraq and Afghanistan?Afghanistan has a new constitution and a new government, and our presence there will be reduced over the next several months and years. Iraq is forming its own government with our assistance. We are clearly winning the struggle there, and, while neither of these countries are likely to become a top tourism destination anytime soon, our efforts will continue to provide opportunities for more freedom and improved conditions in the middle east.

8 posted on 03/03/2004 12:20:54 PM PST by VRWCmember (Dick Gephardt is a <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure </a>)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Since 9/11 the US has liberated 50 million people, has lowered unemployment, raised the prospect for people to buy their own homes, and has given important tax relief that stimulated a sluggish economy that was left from a previous administration.

Basically, under the circumstances we are doing pretty darn well. There is direction, there is a game plan, there is hope.

Now we look at the Democrats solution for fixing the economy and what to do about the military. Their answer is simple. Raise taxes and disarm and let the UN control our actions abroad.

Hmmm... I guess that is a better solution. If you are a Communist.

Fact is liberals are communists and are too cowardly to come out of the closet and say so. They are the lowest form of life and should be stepped on like the disease carrying vermin they are. I am disgusted by their goal of ruining my country in the name of their failed philosophy.




9 posted on 03/03/2004 12:22:57 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 Senate seats changes the world!! Bury Kerry in 04!)
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To: VRWCmember
Also,Libya seems to have seen the light without us even having to go to war with them.
10 posted on 03/03/2004 12:31:40 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Free Trapper; hchutch
Also,Libya seems to have seen the light without us even having to go to war with them.

All we had to do was:

1. Tell Khadaffi "Do it for the Dubyafather."

2. When he balked, we left the head of his favorite camel in his bed.

11 posted on 03/03/2004 12:34:40 PM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: optimistically_conservative
What have we accomplished?

The removal of a Dictator in Iraq, removal of a repressive regime in Afganistan, admissions by Lybia and Iran of illegal Nuclear Programs, a stabilization in the Kashmir situation, and the crackdown of the Abu Sayef group in the Philippines.

Which battles have we won?

Every single one we have fought.

What is the strength of AQ and international terrorism now?

Waning, and waning faster every day. The war on terror has also had a chilling effect on many other terrorist groups outside the Middle East. When was the last time a Tamil bomb blew up in Columbo, or an IRA bomb exploded in Belfast? Terrorists know they cannot hide behind very many governments, and cannot remain anonymous. Their strongest days are behind them, and they are running out of room to hide.

Are we winning, losing, or locked in a deadly struggle being played out by proxy in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Do you even know what the word "proxy" means? We have our own troops there, and we are winning.

12 posted on 03/03/2004 12:37:04 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: optimistically_conservative
"Saying "I'm a war president" is different from being a war president. Bush "talks the talk" but is he satisfying his "war base" that he is "walking the walk"?"

Don't see how you can question GW's record on this one.

More to the point is 'saying'. . .ala John Kerry. . .Clinton or any Democrat; and 'being' ala George Bush, offers a clear distinction of what it means to have a genuine leader.

13 posted on 03/03/2004 2:37:43 PM PST by cricket
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To: VRWCmember
Is the Taliban now OUT OF POWER in Afghanistan?

Except for the Southeastern region, yes.

Has Hussein been been REMOVED FROM POWER in Iraq?

Yes, and although that's been something I've wanted for more than a decade, it has become a liability for the President unless/until a tie between him/his administration and AQ can be shown. Currently there are attempts to tie Zarqawi to to him.

Is the Hussein regime totally eliminated (by capture or death) from power in Iraq?

No, unless you believe the continuing violence in Iraq is solely the function of foreign terrorists. I'd consider saying yes once we have Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri.

How many attacks has al qaeda successfully carried out on American soil since 9/11/01?

Two problems with this question. How many have been stopped? What do you say when it happens tomorrow? Are we better prepared than we were 30 years ago?

Severely diminished, running for cover, hiding and afraid to show their faces. Funds have been curtailed; recruiting efforts are hampered. Their activities and attacks are limited for the most part to third world hellholes and not against private American citizens' interests.

Source please.

14 posted on 03/03/2004 3:20:40 PM PST by optimistically_conservative (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous. T.B.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Basically, under the circumstances we are doing pretty darn well.

GHWBush lost with that campaign slogan.

15 posted on 03/03/2004 3:21:26 PM PST by optimistically_conservative (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous. T.B.)
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