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Cleland: Kerry Won't Release Vietnam Medical File
NewsMax ^ | 2/29/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 02/29/2004 7:38:32 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Former Sen. Max Cleland said Sunday there was no reason for Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry to release his full medical file - including records documenting the injuries that won him three Purple Hearts in Vietnam - calling requests for the Vietnam records "the height of hypocrisy."

"That might be the height of hypocrisy, for people who never went to Vietnam [to ask for Kerry's wartime medical file]," Cleland, a leading Kerry backer, told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

"I mean - I felt a wound. John Kerry felt a wound," he added.

Sen. Cleland, who lost three limbs in Vietnam but never received a Purple Heart, said Kerry's physical sacrifice had been just as great as his own, telling Malzberg, "I don't see any difference."

When pressed on why he thought Kerry didn't need to release his full medical file, Cleland shot back, "You read the book 'Tour of Duty.' I'm not going to get into an argument with you here. Let's just say, we have a clear choice in America."

However, when asked two weeks ago about the severity of Kerry's wounds, "Tour of Duty's" author Douglas Brinkley explained, "They were minor."

The issue of whether Sen. Kerry should release his medical files could become a prickly one for the candidate, especially since he has been less than forthright about personal medical issues in the past.

In Feb. 2003, Kerry underwent an operation for prostate cancer. But he had declined to reveal the condition for months, even when reporters asked about his health. When he finally went public with the news, Kerry claimed that the cover-up had been necessary because his doctors "had not settled on a course of treatment."

When he ran for president in 2000, George Bush released his full medical file, a disclosure so complete that it came to include Bush's 1970s dental files this year.

The exchange between Cleland and Malzberg went like this:

MALZBERG: There's been criticism, fair or unfair, that within the first 24-hours [John Kerry] had his first purple heart. He got three in four months without even a day of duty lost from wounds, according to his training officer. But he will not release his Purple Heart medical treatment reports to be released. And he is the only person keeping them from being released. Would you call on him to release all of his records, sir?

CLELAND: Well, look here. I mean - ah, ah - I think - ah - that might be the height of hypocrisy, for people who never went to Vietnam - as Shakespeare said, "Those who jest at scars never felt a wound." I mean - I felt a wound. John Kerry felt a wound.

MALZBERG: But you never received a Purple Heart, sir.

CLELAND: May I just say, when he was the skipper of his boat with five enlisted men in that situation - going into the jaws of death every day - he had to rely on his instincts for survival. And he and his crew were one. They were a band of brothers. Now, under that situation they saved each others lives. He also saved the life of a Special Forces officer out of the Mekong Delta River, Jim Rassmussen [sic]. And he is campaigning around America for Kerry even though he's a Republican.

The point being, we've been there, done that, gotten a few holes in our T-shirt and we've come back to America to say, war is the last resort, not the first resort.

MALZBERG: I understand, sir. But you were a hero. You lost three limbs, sir, and you don't have a Purple Heart. He barely missed day and he has three of them. And I'm just saying, why not end the controversy . . . Why not see what the injuries were, sir?

CLELAND: May I just say to you and all your listeners, if you want know the full story of John Kerry and the Vietnam War, just go out and buy a book that's on the New York Times bestseller's list, called "Tour of Duty." . . . If we get bogged down in guerilla wars in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in the Balkans and all around, we're going to see repeats of Vietnam. . .

Now that people are going after John Kerry for supposedly being weak on defense, especially by those who never went to war. I mean, you talk about a short term, George Bush had eight months dropped from his tour. He never even completed his tour of duty.

MALZBERG: Well sir, Kerry got out early, also - Kerry got out six months early as well.

CLELAND: Yeah, because he got wounded.

MALZBERG: But we don't know the extent of those wounds, sir.

CLELAND: I got out five weeks early because I got blown up.

MALZBERG: Yes, but don't you see the difference? You lost three limbs.

CLELAND: I don't see any difference.

MALZBERG: We don't know what happened to Kerry because he won't let us know.

CLELAND: That's not true. You read the book "Tour of Duty." I'm not going to get into an argument with you here. Let's just say, we have a clear choice in America. And the great citizens of New York have a great choice on Tuesday. . . . We don't have to repeat another Vietnam. [END OF EXCERPT]



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; interview; kerry; kerryrecord; malzberg; maxcleland; medicialrecords; purplehearts; talkradio; transcript; vietnam; wabc
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1 posted on 02/29/2004 7:38:35 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Check out my Tagline.
2 posted on 02/29/2004 7:42:02 PM PST by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/about/">Deserter -> 3 Band-Aids and I'm Out Kerry</a>)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I guess we get his paystubs and call it a day.
3 posted on 02/29/2004 7:42:19 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
These people make me sick.

Kerry is despicable and so is Cleland.

5 posted on 02/29/2004 7:43:05 PM PST by OldSmaj
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
That dialogue reads like a comedy routine.
These medical records will wound Kerry more than his war injuries did.
6 posted on 02/29/2004 7:43:55 PM PST by jigsaw (John Kerry hopes to win in the stretch -- of the truth.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's past time to release bill clinton's medical files, too.
7 posted on 02/29/2004 7:44:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Rhys Ifans
I believe Kerry is terminally ill. He will try to get elected with Hillary of the ticket knowing full well he will not live out his first term.
8 posted on 02/29/2004 7:44:54 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I spent four times as much time in Viet Nam as Kerry did - so I will submit the request: "Show us your medical records, John Kerry!"

VNVAJK

9 posted on 02/29/2004 7:45:11 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Bush released everything down to his DENTAL records to answer the Geobbels Big Lie from the democrats that Bush was a deserter. Kerry medals are extremely suspect, particularly the Purple Hearts that got him out of Vietnam after 4 months.

What is this, the 18 billionth example of complete deceit and hypocrisy by the "media."

10 posted on 02/29/2004 7:46:03 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"That might be the height of hypocrisy, for people who never went to Vietnam [to ask for Kerry's wartime medical file]," Cleland, a leading Kerry backer, told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

Do you suppose Cleland also considers it the "height of hypocrisy" for people who never served in the National Guard to ask for Bush's military records?

Nah...

11 posted on 02/29/2004 7:46:08 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Rhys Ifans
doesn't DoD have these, there is no freedom of information act way to get them? can Larry Klayman get in on this.

I heard Malsberg today, he seemed to hint that perhaps some of the three purple hearts might have been self inflicted, perhaps not provably so, but let's say that maybe the records would show the injuries were not sustained within the context of an incident involving enemy fire?

something smells on this. the guy in in Vietnam for 4 months (??), has three "wounds", then uses that to go home and join a political movement against the war.
12 posted on 02/29/2004 7:46:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I believe Kerry is terminally ill. He will try to get elected with Hillary of the ticket knowing full well he will not live out his first term.

WOW!! You may be on to something there. Kerry looks cadaverous.

13 posted on 02/29/2004 7:47:46 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I think I'm gonna puke. Grrrr. Cleland doesn't have a purple heart cause he blew himself up.
14 posted on 02/29/2004 7:48:15 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
His face looks drawn and his color is awful. Lets see how his stamina hold up in a real balls to the wall campaign.
15 posted on 02/29/2004 7:49:08 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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I appreciate the questions, but things would have been better still if Marlzberg had been better informed.

It wasn't Kerry's "training officer" who said Kerry didn't miss any duty days. It was his "commanding officer."

Also, Kerry didn't get out of the Navy six months early because of wounds. He got out early to run for Congress. He didn't run.
16 posted on 02/29/2004 7:50:05 PM PST by Hon
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17 posted on 02/29/2004 7:51:12 PM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: OldSmaj

Eeeewwwww...what was the matter with GA voters that they ever elected this loser to the Senate? I guess they were impressed with a guy who picked up a live grenade far from the battlefield and blew himself up...or didn't they know that?
18 posted on 02/29/2004 7:51:28 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Sen. Cleland, who lost three limbs in Vietnam but never received a Purple Heart, said Kerry's physical sacrifice had been just as great as his own"

ROTFLMAO! Cleland lost three limbs due to his own incompetence - picking up a fellow's grenade. He could have done that back in Ft Hood. At least Kerry's wounds weren't self-inflicted...or is that Cleland's point? LOL.

Kerry won't release his Medical Records because he "earned" his Purple Hearts shaving with a blunt razor.

What a dork.
20 posted on 02/29/2004 7:52:21 PM PST by Fenris6
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