Interracially Married Couples Insulted By Comparison of Their Relationships to Gay Marriage

February 20, 2004 | ComtedeMaistre

[ComtedeMaistre]

Over the past week, I had conversations with two long-time friends who are interracially married, over the ongoing controversy over gay marriage in Massachussetts and San Francisco. One is a next door neighbor in Louisiana, who is a white man married to a Vietnamese woman. The other is a black man from Seattle whom I have known since college, and he is married to a white woman from Alabama, and they are now living in Salt Lake City, Utah (we talked over the phone).

Both men are very conservative Christians and very pro-family, and they feel deeply insulted when they hear their loving, healthy, and normal relationships, being compared to the depravity of homosexual sodomy. And both are raising their children with strong traditionalist family values.

I suggested to both, that if several interracially married couples would speak out publicly, opposing the likening of their relationships to homosexuality, the comparisons that the homosexual activists are making by comparing themselves to interracially-married couples, would be rendered null and void.

Both thought it was a good idea. But they felt that, because interracially married couples still have to endure so much racial prejudice, it would be hard to find couples with the guts to speak out publicly in opposition to the homosexual agenda. My black friend in Utah has had it much worse than my white friend in Louisiana, because his white inlaws in Alabama have never accepted him as part of the family. His wife's parents have never even seen their own daughter's biracial children, and seem to have no interest in ever meeting them.

But I still feel that it is important for interracially married couples to speak out publicly against the homosexual agenda, in order to prevent gay activists from morally blackmailing this country, by accusing their pro-family opponents of bigotry. Such statements from interracially married couples who know real prejudice, would be taken more seriously by moderate swing voters, and help to mobilize them in supporting a constitutional ammmendment defining marriage as a man and a woman.

[expatguy]

Welcome to Freerepub... oh nevermind...

[FITZ]

The Bible certainly makes no comparison.

[cyborg]

bless your heart dearie

[ComtedeMaistre]

>>I think in a decade or two people will look back on this as an historic time like we look back on the legalization of interracial marriage in 1967<<

Interracial marriage was legal in most Northern states before 1967. And the legalization of such marriages was brought about by state legislatures.

But such marriages were illegal in 16 Southern states. However, after the 1964 civil rights act, most Americans did not feel that such prohibitions on intermarriage served a legitimate purpose. This new national consensus on race that was reached in the 1960s, influenced the 1967 Loving V. Virginia Supreme Court ruling. Such a national consensus has not been reached with regard to gay relationships.

It may surprise you, that interracial marriages were legal in some parts of this country for centuries. Whites and Native Americans have been intermarrying since the time of Pocahanthus. The black abolitionist, Frederick Douglass, who lived in the nineteenth century, was legally interracially married, and he served for a time as an American diplomat in San Domingo. There are even legal (though rare) black/white marriages that took place in colonial America (before 1776).

Therefore, the concept of black/white marriage was not unheard of, before 1967. There were only regional restrictions on such relationships.

[Miles Vorkosigan]

Even the most offensive minority didn't make the choice to be one (and there's nothing wrong with being one, I might add). All homosexuals have chosen to be queer--mainly because it's easier to be an ersatz woman (who doesn't even have to worry about menstruation or childbirth) than to be a real man.

[Califelephant]

I have talked to several Democrats from union households as well...

My dad is a hard-core dyed in the wool "labor Democrat". I can't wait to ask him the next time I talk to him, "Dad, how come the Democrats are pushing gay marriage so hard?" This issue is bound to drive a wedge between a lot of Democrats and their party.

[Eastbound]

"This is a clear civil rights issue."

Bull$hit! This is a judicial pro-activism issue. Wait til the courts start re-defining what's left of the Bill of Rights and you will understand.

Enjoy your short visit.

[philetus]

Two straight same sex can't marry.

[Miles Vorkosigan]

Long John Silver in Treasure Island was married to a black woman, so I would assume that the idea wasn't considered particularly bizarre in 19th century England, at least.

[MEG33]

Oh my.. what twisted web we weave.

(Good to see you here,wardaddy!)

[wtc911]

Nice knowing you R-L. Good luck in your future endeavors.

[clamboat]

This is a no-brainer! You don't simply start calling a bunch of pigeaons ducks just because these pigeons think that ducks get a better deal in life. Allowing fairies to force normal people to redefine an old word just to fit the fairies preferences doen't make sense.

So you would not oppose the law allowing "civil unions" between same-sex couples as long as same-sex unions are not called "Marriage"? If your objection is to using the word "married" for same-sex couples, then I think that is an easy comprmise. Call it something else, but provide all the same rights and privileges accorded to married heterosexual couples.

[wtc911]

If there were a gay gene and it were identifiable in utero we would see two welcome events within ten years...

The end of Roe v. Wade and the dissolution of the democrats as a party.

[mel]

who said anything about a sorry companion

[Howlin]

I've been in an heterosexual interracial marriage 12 yrs

You forgot to say you are a Christian conservative.

Isn't that the way they train you seminar callers?

[Cinnamon Girl]

That's right! In later years, Moses had a black wife. Aaron & his sister, Miriam, criticized Moses for this. God struck Aaron and Miriam with the inability to speak. What could be clearer than that example? (Moses had to pray for them for it to be lifted!)

You're right that the tradition is that Tzipporah, Moshe's first and only wife was dark skinned, but there is no source for the idea that Miriam or Aharon said anything negative about her color EVER. In fact, the tradition is that Miriam says Tzipporah is extremely beautiful and righteous. Miriam was punished for the sin of loshon hara (evil gossip) for talking to Aharon about her concerns that Moshe was not spending enough time with his wife, because of his work as a prophet. Her sin was comparing him to other prophets, thereby not recognizing his greatness. Miriam was striken with tzaaras, which is translated as a kind of leprosy of the skin. But it was temporary.

[don-o]

Excellent.

Just putting such a post up is a step in the right direction. Maybe Rush will pick up on this for his show prep.

[cyborg]

No it wasn't esp. in the British colonies where even during slavery, it was still legal.

[cyborg]

yeah and she discovered Mike Savage on the radio too. She won't listen to Rush but she just loves Mike Savage.