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Pollsters Faulted for Failure to Predict Edwards's Surge and for Subsequent News Coverage
New York Times ^ | February 19, 2004 | JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 02/18/2004 8:13:07 PM PST by Vision Thing

Senator John Kerry may have beaten Senator John Edwards by nearly six percentage points in Wisconsin on Tuesday, but it was Mr. Edwards who picked up a tsunami of momentum in newspapers and on television, with pundits lauding him for beating their expectations.

Yesterday the source for those expectations, polls before the primary, were criticized for missing a late surge in popularity for Mr. Edwards, prompting a contentious debate within the news media over whether news outlets have been over-reliant on such polls. Some questioned whether Mr. Edwards received a bigger public relations bounce from his showing than he should have.

The debate broke into the open in the early morning, when a longtime polling executive, Warren Mitofsky, posted the following note on an Internet site for pollsters: "Yesterday exposed the biggest polling goofs in my memory." It gained particular notice because Mr. Mitofsky is one of the men in charge of the main service used by the networks and The Associated Press to survey voters when they leave the polls.

He went on to criticize the two main polls before the voting that helped lead many news outlets to expect that Mr. Kerry would beat Mr. Edwards by a much bigger margin than he did.

One last week by the American Research Group showed Mr. Kerry with 53 percent of the vote to Mr. Edwards's 16 percent. Another, from Zogby International, showed Mr. Kerry with 47 percent of the vote to Mr. Edwards's 20 percent, and Howard Dean's 23 percent, as of Feb. 15.

Mr. Kerry, in the end, won with 40 percent of the vote to Mr. Edwards's 34 percent. Dr. Dean, the former governor of Vermont, finished third with 18 percent of the vote, leading anchors like Wolf Blitzer on CNN to excitedly tell his viewers on Tuesday, "a much closer race than many of us had expected."

Calling the earlier polls flawed, Mr. Mitofsky said in an interview yesterday that if they had accurately picked up support for Mr. Edwards, the coverage would have played out differently — perhaps giving him less of a bounce. That bounce helped Mr. Edwards dismiss questions about his viability and also helped him to raise $310,000 on the Internet by the late afternoon.

"Nobody would have been surprised that it was close, there would have been the expectation of maybe even an Edwards victory," Mr. Mitofsky said. Instead, he added, the polling "made him look like a hero."

Conversely, Geoffrey Garin, a Democratic pollster, said the coverage, based on the polls, set Mr. Kerry up for a fall.

"Virtually every news outlet, based on public opinion polling, created the expectation and standard that John Kerry would have a big victory," he said. "So anything that was short of a big victory almost inherently becomes a disappointment."

David Axelrod, Mr. Edwards's media adviser, argued that Mr. Edwards deserved the coverage because he truly did pick up steam, quickly, as the polls showed.

Mr. Axelrod said that Mr. Kerry "started out light years ahead of us." He added, "We started from behind and we closed fast."

What is not in dispute is that no poll detected the late surge of support for Mr. Edwards. Voter surveys showed three-quarters of Mr. Edwards's support as coming in the last week of the contest.

John Zogby, the president of Zogby International, said his polling ended Sunday night, before a Democratic debate. The good reviews Mr. Edwards won that night, Mr. Zogby said, helped him with voters, as did the late endorsement from The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Dismissing Mr. Mitofsky's critique as the rantings of "a grumpy old man" — Mr. Mitofsky is 69 — Mr. Zogby said: "There is conventional wisdom and there are pollsters, and pollsters oftentimes help to define the conventional wisdom. As of Sunday at about 5 p.m., when the last poll finished, the conventional wisdom was `Kerry's ahead.' "

Defending his company's poll, Dick Bennett, president of the American Research Group, said Mr. Kerry's support plummeted extraordinarily after his polling concluded.

Still, Gary Langer, the director of polling at ABC News, said he was not sure Mr. Edwards's support could have surged that much that quickly.

"The critical thing is, we as news organizations need to establish standards for survey research that we will not report," Mr. Langer said, adding that ABC had such standards.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; edwards; media; polls; pollsters; pollswi; wi
The media claims betrayal at the hands of the pollsters. Instead of merely reporting what happens, the media wants to predict what will happen. And for that, they rely on the pollsters. But all is folly, for even the media's pollsters have no idea what will happen.
1 posted on 02/18/2004 8:13:08 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Vision Thing
Really quite simple, the media and pollsters were not interested in the Kerry affair. Mom and Dad the voters were.
2 posted on 02/18/2004 8:15:13 PM PST by cynicom
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To: cynicom
Really quite simple, the media and pollsters were not interested in the Kerry affair. Mom and Dad the voters were.

Bingo. And now the media can not admit that the story they refused to cover had such an effect, as that would make obvious how much power they have lost to the internet.

3 posted on 02/18/2004 8:22:44 PM PST by per loin
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To: Vision Thing
There really is nothing on earth more disgusting than a pollster. I could release a made-up poll tomorrow that says "Kucinich is climbing fast!" and the lemmingcrats will go and gleefully vote for Kucinich if my poll gets reported in the media. Pollsters realize this and that is why they get into the business.
4 posted on 02/18/2004 8:25:28 PM PST by Jim_Curtis
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To: Vision Thing
Some questioned whether Mr. Edwards received a bigger public relations bounce from his showing than he should have.

Think long and hard about what that sentence says. The news media is admitting THEY choose who to give coverage to and in what amounts, based upon arbitrary criteria.

5 posted on 02/18/2004 8:36:56 PM PST by Timesink (Smacky is power.)
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To: cynicom; per loin
Really quite simple, the media and pollsters were not interested in the Kerry affair. Mom and Dad the voters were.

Just like the 2002 Wellstone memo-rally. The news media buried it within a single news cycle, but the PEOPLE talked about nothing else from the moment it happened all the way until Election Day, and their anger at the Democrats' sick ways played a big part in the GOP's overwhelming across-the-board victory.

The Polier cover-up by the news media is going to turn out to be a tipping point where a large percentage of the public finally realizes they cannot trust the "mainstream" media, IMHO.

6 posted on 02/18/2004 8:41:08 PM PST by Timesink (Smacky is power.)
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To: Timesink
Exactly. The news media is trying to go beyond their role of reporting news.
7 posted on 02/18/2004 8:42:06 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: Timesink
The Polier cover-up by the news media is going to turn out to be a tipping point where a large percentage of the public finally realizes they cannot trust the "mainstream" media, IMHO.

Yes. When you sit there watching them find ways not to say what you know they know, you realize that these are not newsmen, but propagandists.

8 posted on 02/18/2004 8:50:11 PM PST by per loin
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To: Vision Thing
Kerry 55% - W 43%

USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup 02/18/04



9 posted on 02/18/2004 8:55:28 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: ambrose; Pubbie; Torie
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10 posted on 02/18/2004 8:56:08 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
No mention of Rasmussen, eh?
11 posted on 02/18/2004 9:33:40 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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