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Rejected For Guns, Pilots Criticize Test
The Washington Times ^
| February 5, 2004
| Audrey Hudson
Posted on 02/05/2004 12:30:55 AM PST by Travis McGee
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: RogueIsland
these people are trained to react coolly and professionally in a life-threatening crisis. They are exactly the kind of people we should be encouraging to be armed in every phase of life! Think what it means to believe otherwise, and how it relates to liberalism generally:
- police are unnecessary
- gumshoe work using shady operatives is unnecessary
- the military is unnecessary
- nobody should have a gun
- Nirvana will arrive as soon as the government makes everything either mandatory or forbidden.
The whole thing is a bunch of magical thinking which makes no sense at all.
To: Travis McGee
Why is Moron Mineta still working for the govt? .... or George Tennant
these Clinton LEFT-overs shoud have been thrown under the bus the first day
they continue to prove their incompidence daily ...
.
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posted on
02/05/2004 4:43:16 AM PST
by
Elle Bee
To: Travis McGee
As the man said: "It's a liberal, knee-jerk reaction to guns."
To: Viking2002
"Our bureaucracy is a bloated, broken mess. If I'm in a steel tube, five miles up and going 600 MPH, the last concern I'm going to have with the pilot is if he's got a gun under his arm. He already has the capability to take me out. Mineta should have been shown the door three years ago."
I agree. Mineta is a liberal Democrat and I have no idea why Bush appointed him, other than to say he was "reaching out" to the other side.
Scr@w the other side.
To: Travis McGee
"The USAF considered me psychologically sound enough to be directly responsible for nuclear weapons," the pilot wrote. "Yet a TSA psychologist has determined I am unreliable to carry a weapon in my own airliner." HA!
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posted on
02/05/2004 4:52:29 AM PST
by
OXENinFLA
("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
To: Travis McGee
If they don't meet the criteria to carry a gun on the plane, they certainly don't meet the criteria to fly the plane. Let's get some legislation passed that states this clearly, and requires that their commercial pilot's license be pulled if they are found unqualified to carry a gun onboard. Then this nonsense will stop quickly, as airlines and passengers swamp legislators with complaints about endless flight cancellations due to lack of pilots.
To: Travis McGee
Help me try to understand this....a pilot, who is at 30,0000 feet, could destroy up to 400 people, with the a simple movement of his hand, but cannot be trusted with a gun...
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posted on
02/05/2004 5:14:11 AM PST
by
thinking
To: Travis McGee
It's a control thing.Period. This is what it all boils down to in the bottom of the stinking black pot the Federal government has become.
The lack of leadership in this area speaks volumns. I vote: No Confidence.
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posted on
02/05/2004 5:14:46 AM PST
by
LTCJ
(Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
To: Travis McGee
No doubt the TSA psychologists think anyone who'd want to carry a gun is crazy by definition. If you want to carry, you must be crazy. Ergo, you cannot carry.
To: snopercod
The TSA is a joke, just another bloated federal bureaucracy responsible only to itself. What was G.W. thinking when he allowed this monstrosity to be created?
Sometimes I think G.W. would make a great public school administrator.
To: CarryaBigStick
If you really what to hear stupidity taken to the sublime ..get this..
I have a buddy who flies the Big Babies for USAir, he is also currently in a Air Guard unit
flying F-16s.
He served in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
He applied for and was rejected from the Guns for Pilots program.
His weekend Guard duties require him to intercept and shoot down if necessary any hijacked airliner.
Sigh
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posted on
02/05/2004 5:45:13 AM PST
by
Robe
(Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
To: snopercod
I hear ya loud and clear !
Ironic thing is those of us on the longhaul international Bizav types having been CCWing for quite a few years now especially trips to Nigeria and other places of "interest" ;-0) etc
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posted on
02/05/2004 5:51:22 AM PST
by
JETDRVR
To: SauronOfMordor
Considering that Federal law-enforcement officers get to carry in-flight on airliners, this is a very relevant question.You asked. You answered. But then, you knew that.
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posted on
02/05/2004 5:54:48 AM PST
by
LTCJ
(Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
To: goldstategop
Did you forget the
?
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posted on
02/05/2004 5:55:45 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once.)
To: Robe
He applied for and was rejected from the "Guns for Pilots" program. His weekend Guard duties require him to intercept and shoot down if necessary any hijacked airliner. That bullet is not at the end of the national command authority. That missile is. It's a control thing.
The irony is, if that missile ever has to fly, the full weight of the question, "how did it come to this?" will land squarely in the lap of the one at the top of the chain. And rightly so, by God.
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posted on
02/05/2004 6:02:53 AM PST
by
LTCJ
(Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
To: DainBramage
Have to say though, I know an American Airlines Captain, ex military pilot, who just switched from being "Sir" to being "ma'am". And this is relevant to ability to kill Wahabiwackjob goblins because...?
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posted on
02/05/2004 6:12:43 AM PST
by
steve-b
To: Travis McGee
""The USAF considered me psychologically sound enough to be directly responsible for nuclear weapons," the pilot wrote. "Yet a TSA psychologist has determined I am unreliable to carry a weapon in my own airliner."
That's probably because they are using anti-gun,gay, politically left university psychiatrists as screeners. This guy was probably labeled a 'baby killer' and rejected.
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posted on
02/05/2004 6:18:55 AM PST
by
txzman
(Jer 23:29)
To: ought-six
Mineta is a liberal Democrat and I have no idea why Bush appointed him, other than to say he was "reaching out" to the other side... and Mineta is reaching back - with a noose.
This is the sort of thing that may get Bush ejected from office, particularly if we get another airliner hijacked and destroyed. He can't say he isn't responsible for this mess. This is "his" agency, from start to finish and there is ZERO reason Liberal bureaucrats should be allowed to slow-roll this program and reject the stated will of Congress and the American People.
Bush needs to get a handle on this. Crap like this not only makes him look stupid, but out-of-control and incompetent! Not only that, it's dangerous!!
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posted on
02/05/2004 6:21:36 AM PST
by
Gritty
("Democrats believe you strike fear in the hearts of terrorists by investing in windmills-Ann Coulter)
To: Pontiac
I wonder if the same screening process is used for Flight Marshals, ATF agents, FBI agents and IRS investigators, you know all of those Federal officers of the law who carry guns in case we peasants with pitch forks get uppity.
Excellent point. And in addition to these folks, don't foget to include the other federal bureaucrats who get to carry loaded pistols on airliners: USFS, EPA, etc.
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posted on
02/05/2004 6:45:10 AM PST
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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