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To: KantianBurke
Kiddo, of course Bush says you rock. You're going to have all your future paychecks ripped to shreds when you grow up to pay for his "compassion." Ignorance, and thus youth, is bliss.

That is what Robert A. Taft (Mr Republican) told my dad when FDR passed Social Security. You just wait, Bobby the Taft said, it will take all your money and you will be far worse off than you were before FDR enacted this curse on working people. You think things are great making 30 bucks a week? See how bad it is once this Socical Security thing costs 30 dollars a week and takes all your money. He was right Soical security costs did eventially go to 30 bucks a week. But it didn't take all of Dad's money to pay it. Thirty bucks was the cost of social security and it was also the of a meal for Dad and Mom... but thirty bucks for the meal did not include the tip.

Barry Goldwater(Mr Massive Loser) told me that I would not be able afford to have anything when I grew up ..... not if LBJ got Medicare inacted. My take home pay would be next to nothing if that rotten dirty LBJ enacted Medicare. Why in my old age, If LBJ got his way I would not even be able to afford a tooth pick. But not to worry, said Barry I would not be able to afford to eat anyway.

The problem with your we can't afford story is people like you have been playing that tune since 1933 and it has yet to come true.

But you assure us all that in 2030 the sky is going to fall. People like you have been making dire predictions that the the sky is going to fall since 1933. It has never fallen. Most of us doen't even bother to look up to see if it is falling any more. There is no sign of it falling. Now your side guarantees it will fall in 2020 or no later than 2030.

Those who are old enough or have read history have been hearing your sides dire predictions that never come true for 64 years.

AS for me, for the first 40 years I heard your dire predictions of the world ending before breakfast, I totally believed them. Your problem is this is year 41 and being wrong 40 out of 40 times can make some people believe that you are always wrong.

There are many arguments that you can make against medicare drugs. But saying we can't afford them or that our children can't afford them, has ben proven pattently untrue over and over and over for 3 generations

Lying about what this nation can or can't afford is stupid. How many lies can one tell before few if any believe you?


31 posted on 01/30/2004 8:38:59 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
S.S. had a much better worker to payee ratio 50 years ago. Thus ur take home pay wasn't signifigantly reduced to pay for benefits. If you think things are going to remain the same in the next 20 for the good however, I've got a bridge to sell you.
36 posted on 01/30/2004 8:45:09 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: Common Tator; KantianBurke; All
Kiddo, of course Bush says you rock. You're going to have all your future paychecks ripped to shreds when you grow up to pay for his "compassion." Ignorance, and thus youth, is bliss.

That is what Robert A. Taft (Mr Republican) told my dad when FDR passed Social Security. You just wait, Bobby the Taft said, it will take all your money and you will be far worse off than you were before FDR enacted this curse on working people. You think things are great making 30 bucks a week? See how bad it is once this Socical Security thing costs 30 dollars a week and takes all your money. He was right Soical security costs did eventially go to 30 bucks a week. But it didn't take all of Dad's money to pay it. Thirty bucks was the cost of social security and it was also the of a meal for Dad and Mom... but thirty bucks for the meal did not include the tip.

Barry Goldwater(Mr Massive Loser) told me that I would not be able afford to have anything when I grew up ..... not if LBJ got Medicare inacted. My take home pay would be next to nothing if that rotten dirty LBJ enacted Medicare. Why in my old age, If LBJ got his way I would not even be able to afford a tooth pick. But not to worry, said Barry I would not be able to afford to eat anyway.

The problem with your we can't afford story is people like you have been playing that tune since 1933 and it has yet to come true.

But you assure us all that in 2030 the sky is going to fall. People like you have been making dire predictions that the the sky is going to fall since 1933. It has never fallen. Most of us doen't even bother to look up to see if it is falling any more. There is no sign of it falling. Now your side guarantees it will fall in 2020 or no later than 2030.

Those who are old enough or have read history have been hearing your sides dire predictions that never come true for 64 years.

AS for me, for the first 40 years I heard your dire predictions of the world ending before breakfast, I totally believed them. Your problem is this is year 41 and being wrong 40 out of 40 times can make some people believe that you are always wrong.

There are many arguments that you can make against medicare drugs. But saying we can't afford them or that our children can't afford them, has ben proven pattently untrue over and over and over for 3 generations

Lying about what this nation can or can't afford is stupid. How many lies can one tell before few if any believe you?

Three big problems with your analysis: Roe-v-Wade, birth control pills, and women choosing careers over children.

When Taft & Goldwater made their predictions, the indigenous population was still growing.

Since Roe-v-Wade and the mass embrace of narcissism amongst our women folk, the indigenous population has been shrinking rather dramatically. When the baby boomers start to retire [born 1946, turn 65 in 2011], all hell is gonna break loose as regards these entitlement programs.

Now you're gonna counter that the overall population has continued to climb due to immigration, but I'm gonna counter-counter with a very unpopular [but sadly true] observation: The immigrant population [with a very few exceptions, such as Russian Jews, Chinese Mandarins & Cantonese, Indians, &c] has, on average, a LOWER IQ than the indigenous population that it's replacing.

Whether this new, lower IQ pool of immigrants can be sufficiently productive to produce enough excess income to keep the Baby Boomers fat & happy in retirement is an open question: Maybe yes, maybe no.

104 posted on 01/30/2004 3:48:02 PM PST by mosel-saar-ruwer
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