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Senators Skeptical About Bush NASA Vision [Moon, Mars]
AP ^ | 1.28.04 | AP

Posted on 01/28/2004 2:11:39 PM PST by ambrose

Posted on Wed, Jan. 28, 2004

Senators Skeptical About Bush NASA Vision

ROBERT GEHRKE

Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Skeptical senators grilled NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe on Wednesday on whether President Bush's vision of returning astronauts to the Moon and exploring Mars is feasible in light of strained federal budgets.

In the past, Congress has seen NASA project budgets balloon well beyond what they were ever projected to cost, said Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D.

"Space flight is costly," said Dorgan. "I don't want to be a wise guy, but we've been promised the Moon before."

Earlier this month, the president sought to chart a new course for the space agency, focusing on a return to the Moon by 2020 in preparation for manned missions to Mars and beyond. To pay for the project, Bush plans to request a 5-year, $1 billion increase in NASA's budget with an additional $11 billion diverted from other NASA projects.

O'Keefe said details of the budget, due to be released Feb. 2, will provide a clearer picture of how NASA will achieve its lofty goals. It will be followed by a sweeping reorganization of the agency to focus efforts on the new goals, he said.

"I would hope members would examine that budget before making judgments on its adequacy or efficacy," O'Keefe told the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee.

The administration is proposing mothballing the space shuttle at the end of the decade, which would save NASA about $4 billion a year, and quickly ending its obligations to the International Space Station, which costs about $1.7 billion annually.

O'Keefe said NASA can fund the president's program and meet Bush's goal of cutting the deficit in half within five years. He said the budget strategy is flexible, but it will not force future Congresses to cover the costs.

"Space flight: You can't do it on the cheap and I just don't think a billion dollars increase over five years - that's $200 million a year - is going to do it," said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., the only current member of Congress who has been in orbit. He was a crew member on a 1986 space shuttle flight.

A more modest proposal laid out by the first President Bush had projected costs of $400 billion to $500 billion and never got off the ground. Committee chairman John McCain, R-Ariz., cited reports that the new space proposal could cost between $170 billion and $600 billion - although O'Keefe disputed both sets of figures.

McCain said that, given a $477 billion federal deficit, the public is justifiably apprehensive about the initiative.

"When we look back on the past cost of programs at NASA, there has been one constant and that's been that the costs have exceeded the initial estimates," said McCain. "What's different?"

O'Keefe said the president's space agenda is not an "aggressive schedule" and there is room built into the budget to allow for unforeseen costs.

Also on Wednesday, the House sent Bush a bill to try to help NASA retain its workers. In the next five years, one-fourth of NASA's work force will be eligible for retirement. The bill, sponsored by Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, and Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, R-N.Y., seeks to give NASA more flexibility to recruit and retain skilled workers.

The bill allows NASA to offer larger recruitment and retention bonuses and offers bonuses to employees shifting between federal jobs.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bush; luddites; mars; martians; moon; nasa; okeefe; rats; space

1 posted on 01/28/2004 2:11:40 PM PST by ambrose
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To: All; biblewonk
Here we have one of those rare instances where some Dem Senators and McStain have the right idea. Sure, maybe for all the wrong reasons. But, nonetheless, the right conclusion.
2 posted on 01/28/2004 2:19:22 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: ambrose
I expect Bush's plan will receive the funding; these Senators bloviate and posture.
3 posted on 01/28/2004 2:22:36 PM PST by demlosers (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">Miserable Failure</a>)
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To: ambrose
Just make sure the US flag not the UN is planted on Mars.
4 posted on 01/28/2004 2:43:35 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: ambrose
I wouldn't expect to see 'Senators' and 'vision' in the same sentence...
5 posted on 01/28/2004 5:07:57 PM PST by mikrofon
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To: mikrofon
Their "vision" does not go beyond their six year terms in office.
6 posted on 01/28/2004 5:11:00 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
My vision extends to the seven trillion debt and some of the spending priorities. We are presently indebted to a sum that if normal interest ever prevails again at 8%, the interest alone will amount to a half trillion dollars. The debt will expand another half a trillion when the Senior drug entitlement becomes effective.

The adminstration has set a goal of getting to a balanced budget within five years, which signifies a further increse in indebtedness. The debt should be a nine billion debt by the five year target date at a minimum. This increases the interest payment to almost a 3/4 trillion. Until our budget priorities are straightened out, it seems a poor move to escape the gravity of earth and head for space. There are problems here on earth, including our homongous debt.

7 posted on 01/28/2004 6:10:53 PM PST by meenie
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To: meenie
Yes, why sail across the Atlantic when there are so many problems at home in Spain?
8 posted on 01/28/2004 6:57:47 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Dorgan. "I don't want to be a wise guy, but we've been promised the Moon before."

Yeah, and they got it. Then they killed the moon program. It is all up to Congress.

9 posted on 01/28/2004 7:00:12 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: meenie
Until our budget priorities are straightened out, it seems a poor move to escape the gravity of earth and head for space.

It's a matter of scale. The space program is a blip in the Federal budget. It could be doubled or eliminated and it wouldn't affect the budget at all either way.

10 posted on 01/28/2004 7:07:58 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: newgeezer
--snip--and quickly ending its obligations to the International Space Station, which costs about $1.7 billion annually.

The previous great idea is admittedly a POS so we move on to the next "great idea". We need more McStains. This is too stupid.

11 posted on 01/29/2004 5:50:27 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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