How to win war on terror

Hollinger Telegraph New Media Limited ^ | 31/12/2003 | David Rennie

[worriedpeter]

President George W Bush was sent a public manifesto yesterday by Washington's hawks, demanding regime change in Syria and Iran and a Cuba-style military blockade of North Korea backed by planning for a pre-emptive strike on its nuclear sites.

The manifesto, presented as a "manual for victory" in the war on terror, also calls for Saudi Arabia and France to be treated not as allies but as rivals and possibly enemies.

The manifesto is contained in a new book by Richard Perle, a Pentagon adviser and "intellectual guru" of the hardline neo-conservative movement, and David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter. They give warning of a faltering of the "will to win" in Washington.

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It may be assumed that their instincts at least are shared by hawks inside the government, whose twin power bases are the Pentagon's civilian leadership and the office of the vice-president, Dick Cheney.

The book calls for tough action against France and its dreams of offsetting US power. "We should force European governments to choose between Paris and Washington," it states.

[worriedpeter]

I wonder how the Europeans may be forced to decide. Especially given the widespread resistance in the populations. Even allied british Blair and spanish Aznar and had millions on the street against the war. Blair is still in trouble because of that judicial inquiry concerning Dr Kelly who had committed suicide after he had been named as the source for a BBC report which said Mr Blair's aides had "sexed up" the case for war in Iraq.

[cake_crumb]

Most of EUrope is still locked in appeasement mode, proving they're incapable of learning from their mistakes. They won't choose to fight unless they are being attacked. As for the population: millions around the world protested. Billions did not.

As for Blair and Kelly, the BBC and their little lying thug Andrew Gilligan didn't come off smelling like roses. Not all of Blair's problems stem from Kelly or the war. The economy has a lot to do with it too.

[cripplecreek]

when the europeans begin to die at the hands of terrorists, thier decision wont be far off.

[JohnGalt]

Whose War?

Selected quotes from An End To Evil that should concern any patriotic conservative:

We ought to learn a lesson from the most effective anticrime program the United States has ever seen: Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's crack down in New York. Giuliani's core insight was this: People who break one law will break other laws. You want to catch a guy who's skipped out on a manslaughter arrest warrant? Stop every turnstile jumper and inspect his ID. You want to find the killer who left his fingerprints on a knife that stabbed a kid to death yesterday? Scan the fingerprints of everybody you catch smoking marijuana in the park today. (pg 68)

And there is only one system that will do the job: a national identity card that registers the bearer's name and biometric data, like fingerprints or retinal scans or DNA, and that indicates whether the bearer is a citizen, a permanent resident, or a temporary resident... (pg 70)

We may be so eager to protect the right to dissent that we lose sight of the difference between dissent and subversion... (pg 74)

A free society is not an unpoliced society. A free society is a self-policed society. (pg 77)

But even a nation of laws must understand the limits of legalism. Between 1861 and 1865, the government of the United States took tens of thousands of American citizens prisoner and detained them for years without letting any one of them see a lawyer. (pg 229)

[TKDietz]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am really leery of Richard Perle and his buddies. There is nothing conservative about that lot and the "liberal" approach to military aggression they advocate. Those guys are dangerous. We'd all be better serve if they were pushed out of the sphere of influence in Republican politics.

[Jim Robinson]

worriedpeter aka faithful_bob, deklerk, free_speach_for_all, better_diplomacy_needed, respect-back-for-the-US, schaschu, good-morning, jhhoeffler, et al, banned.

[Tijeras_Slim]

Lot's of trolls today... what gives? Is it the PBS pledge-drive keeping them away from the TV?

[MEG33]

Faithful Bob had a post pulled on a prayer for the Preident thread.This guy is is really the bottom of the barrel.

[cake_crumb]

You forgot to credit former NYC police commissioner under Guiliani, Bernard Kerik.

[cake_crumb]

What is this, troll day??

[Paulus Invictus]

So what is your preferred approach to terrorism--the Clintinoid, do-nothing to offend the UN and Europe and send in the FBI to come up with nothing to end terrorism? Or how about a few missiles targeting training camps and aspirin factories? Perle and Wolfowitz have taken the right road--shock and awe does the job every time. Anything else is appeasement and useless.

[texson66]

And there is only one system that will do the job: a national identity card that registers the bearer's name and biometric data, like fingerprints or retinal scans or DNA, and that indicates whether the bearer is a citizen, a permanent resident, or a temporary resident..

Uh right John.....

"Papier, bitte!"

[ex-snook]

How to win the war on terror? Hey easy one. Use the same techniques we used to Win the War on Poverty, Win the War on Drugs, Win the War on Smut. All we have to do is fail to define victory and increase Washington bureauracy endlessly because there is no light at the end of the tunnel. In the meantime check the status of the alert flag to see the score of the game.

[PattonReincarnated]

>> manifesto

Geez, I personally have never found a positive way of using this word ... how is it that I think that this so-called manifesto doesn't go far enough?

[JasonC]

"dangerous. We'd all be better serve"

Dangerous yes. I'm all for dangerous. The rest of the world hasn't seen nearly enough "dangerous" from the US. But as for better served, um, if this is what their failure looks like, what would success look like? In two years we've freed 40 million people and toppled two foreign enemies while preventing any successful terrorist incidents inside the US (the worst was our home-grown sniper nutjob - they've hit things abroad but not here), for under 1000 lost. If you'd have predicted anything like that on 9-12, you would have been denounced as ridiculously optimistic.

It is obvious why the Dems don't like them - the success of the war benefits W and hurts them, while the politics of support for the war splits their base not the right's. It is obviously why some EU socialists don't like them - ditto. Others might find them abrasive I suppose. But ineffective? What are you smoking?

[JohnGalt]

Friendly fire! Friendly Fire!

I am trying to damn the authors with their own words (see tagline).

Yours in liberty,