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Army Faults Its Treatment of Reserve Troops
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Posted on 01/20/2004 8:29:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe

Jan 20, 6:41 PM (ET)

By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Seeking to avert an exodus of part-time soldiers, the chief of the U.S. Army Reserve on Tuesday faulted the Army's treatment of reservists and proposed to give them a firmer notion of when they may be plucked from civilian life for active duty.

The Army has been stretched thin by operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and has relied heavily on part-time Army Reserve soldiers, as well the Army National Guard.

Army Reserve soldiers have complained about getting very little notice before being summoned to active duty, repeated mobilizations, and equipment shortfalls.

Lt. Gen. James Helmly said changes are needed to prevent a "crisis" in retaining these soldiers in the all-volunteer U.S. military. There is concern within the Army that thousands of reservists will leave the military as soon as they are given the chance, undermining U.S. defense readiness.

"We have not, in the Army Reserve, applied the positive leadership necessary both in terms of how we treat people but also in our personnel practices and procedures to entice them to feel wanted, respected, admired," Helmly told reporters at the Pentagon.

Helmly said the Army Reserve needs to get the message across to reserve soldiers that "we value your service and we're not going to run this like a doggone flesh farm."

Aiming to give reservists more predictability in their lives, Helmly said he has proposed that these soldiers be told that reservists will be put on alert for short-notice mobilization -- in as little as five days -- during a window of six to nine months during any four-year period.

At all other times, mobilization would occur only in response to an emergency, Helmly indicated.

The Army Reserve currently has no official guidelines for when a soldier may be mobilized. The proposal still is being considered by the Pentagon leadership.

More than 30,000 Army Reserve soldiers are currently serving in Iraq and Afghanistan operations. The percentage of Army Reserve troops in the U.S. force in Iraq will increase this year as the Pentagon rotates weary troops home and replaces them with fresh ones.

"The culture in the Army Reserve is changing. We're changing from a force in reserve in which people believe they'll never get mobilized, and telling them up front, 'the intent is to prepare you and your unit for mobilization, and the likelihood is that you will be mobilized and brought to active duty,"' Helmly said.

But Helmly said that in building up the U.S. forces in Iraq, about 10,000 reserve soldiers were given less than five days notice before being mobilized, giving them scant time to prepare their families and civilian employers.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: army; attrition; reserve; reservists; retention
Not the rosiest picture for retention.
1 posted on 01/20/2004 8:29:04 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
"The culture in the Army Reserve is changing. We're changing from a force in reserve in which people believe they'll never get mobilized, and telling them up front, 'the intent is to prepare you and your unit for mobilization, and the likelihood is that you will be mobilized and brought to active duty,"

I don't understand this. It's ok for reservest to draw a salary but really shouldn't expect to be called up for the purpose for which they exist. Just what did they think the Reserves is all about?

2 posted on 01/20/2004 8:49:43 PM PST by Lucy Lake
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To: grizzfan
Quite a few are having difficulty understanding it.

The Army Guard is bracing for up to 60% attrition within the next 24 months.

3 posted on 01/20/2004 8:56:00 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: grizzfan
Their expectations were in line with what the reserve recruitment ads have been saying for almost thirty years: One weekend of duty per month and two weeks during the summer. PLUS, tech training in your MOS and civilian educational benefits, blah blah blah.

The military RIF'd many darn good active-duty NCOs and officers after the Cold War, so now they're feeling the consequences. Some peace dividend we're now paying for...


4 posted on 01/20/2004 10:09:09 PM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: grizzfan
The Reserves are just that Reserves. Right know there being used like active duty units.
If these people wanted to stay active duty. They would have stayed in the first place!
We are way past the time needed for use of the Reserves. There were never needed at all in the first place. If we had the active units manned properly. something the gov. seems unwilling to do. But yet there all this talk of a draft.
And yes I was in the active military and active Reserve for 10 years.
5 posted on 01/20/2004 11:42:08 PM PST by quietolong
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To: quietolong
know=now

opps
6 posted on 01/20/2004 11:44:49 PM PST by quietolong
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To: quietolong
And yes I was in the active military and active Reserve for 10 years.

I doubt that, or you would have more understanding of the situation.

7 posted on 01/21/2004 9:06:17 AM PST by Lucy Lake
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To: grizzfan
"I don't understand this. It's OK for reservist to draw a salary but really shouldn't expect to be called up for the purpose for which they exist. Just what did they think the Reserves is all about?"

I don't think they expected to lose homes, jobs, have families living on the ragged edge of poverty, etc. because they got called away from their jobs for undetermined, overly long periods of time. Go through that once, and you won't volunteer to do it again.

They don't draw a salary. They do get paid for the actual time (drills) spent on duty. Look at the pay charts sometime. Try and pay for your family's needs, mortgage, insurance, etc. on what a typical NCO is paid. For a real eye opener, check out the pay for the privates and specialists.

These guys do expect call ups, but they are now being used in a way that has not happened in the past. The National Guard and Reserve units were not intended to replace the full time troops that Bush Sr. and Clinton eliminated.

Simple fact and reality is, there is going to be a HUGE retention problem if they don't do something to change the way these guys are being treated.

In my opinion, the real solution is to expand the full time military.
8 posted on 01/21/2004 9:25:18 AM PST by Nik Naym
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They don't draw a salary. They do get paid for the actual time (drills) spent on duty.

That's called drawing a salary.

They knew there was a possibility they would be called up, and no one had a gun at their head making them stay in the reserves.

In my opinion, the real solution is to expand the full time military.

I agree with you on this statement.

9 posted on 01/21/2004 11:25:38 AM PST by Lucy Lake
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To: grizzfan
Well you doubt WRONG!

It is evident from your posts you haven’t a clue. But OK then Explain it to us. What is the situation. And what are your credentials?
10 posted on 01/21/2004 12:36:11 PM PST by quietolong
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