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Posted on 01/15/2004 10:10:31 AM PST by Sabertooth
In the wake of President Bush’s “not an Amnesty” Amnesty proposal to legalize millions of Illegal Aliens under the cover of a “guest worker” program, the argument has surfaced that we as Americans have no choice but to pursue this Amnesty, because the only alternatives would be the current status quo, or “deport them all and build a wall” police-state measures.
I’ve long held that draconian measures are unnecessary to solve the Illegal Alien problem. Recently I posted Eighteen Illegal Alien solutions that are better than any Amnesty, which outlined a number of quite reasonable measures that would encourage Illegal Aliens to deport themselves.
While it may seem self-evident that diligent enforcement of existing laws combined with a few new tactics results in a decrease in the targeted crime, many dig in their heels against the notion that Illegals would respond sensibly to the same utilitarian application of law enforcement.
Fortunately, we’ve had something of a test case on the idea, and the results are promising.
Following the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001, the Justice Department under Attorney General John Ashcroft targeted Illegal Aliens from certain Middle Eastern nations as a result of the War on Terror. Among those receiving increased scrutiny were Pakistanis.
As a result, according to the Pakistani Embassy, More that 15,000 Pakistani Illegals have left America since September 11th, 2001.
“Residual foreign born” the Census Bureau’s euphmism for Illegal Alien (does every federal agency have one?). Unfortnately, the Census 2000 Estimates of Residual Foreign Born does not include a specific estimate for the number of Pakistani Illegal Aliens in the United Sates at that time. The last available federal estimate is a 1996 INS report, which put the number of Pakistani Illegals at 41,000.
It’s a fair bet, given the laxity of enforcement of our immigration laws under President Clinton, that there were more Pakistani Illegals in the country five years later, at the time of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. We can be quite confident of some increase, given that by every other measure there was an increase of the Illegal Alien presence in the country over the same 1996 – 2001 time period.
If we assume an increase to 50,000 Pakistani Illegals, the 15,000 self-deportations reported by the Pakistani Embassy would represent 30% of the total.
Even if we assume 60,000, almost half-again more than the 41,000 Pakistani Illegals reported in 1996, those 15,000 self-deportations would represent a huge 25% of the total.
Keep in mind that returning to Pakistan requires a not inexpensive airline ticket, as well as a transoceanic and transcontinental flight.
Now, apply that conservative 25% self-deportation rate to DHS Secretary Tom Ridge’s recent estimate of 8 to 12 million Illegals currently in the country.
25% of 8 to 12 million would equal 2 to 3 million self-deportations of Illegal Aliens.
Isn’t that a better plan than President Bush’s current proposal to legalize these same Illegals?
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Shut off new immigration to nations that offer dual citizenship. Disqualify current immigrants from those nations from future American citizenship.
As you may (or may not) be aware, America is almost unique in that we allow non-citizens to own land and houses. There are people here, who work hard and pay taxes and own businesses (raise families, go to chruch, blah, blah, blah), yet have dual citizenships. If they renounce their dual citizenship status, they forfeit land from thier home country that have been in their family for generations. So, they will have a choice; forfeit their family's farm, businesses, home, and lands or leave America. That is unfair.
For example, I work with an engineer from India who is married to an American woman and is raising two children. His family owns considerable amounts of land in India. He is here legally, works hard, has bought a home and is legally pursuing the dual citizenship registration. He pays taxes like anyone else, he just gets to pay both US taxes, as well as taxes on his assets in India as well.
"The National Population Council reported that 9.9 million Mexicans call America home and that more than 7.82 million of those - or 79 percent - do not have U.S. citizenship. It did not break down how many had legal residence papers."
"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."
I'm one of the 83%.
If the President Bush or Tom Ridge would announce that in six months they will be paying a $50 per head bounty for each illegal alien on American soil there would be a mad rush for the borders.
A policeman in a car costs the average city about $200 an hour. Helicopters cost at least $2000 an hour with the ground crews. What is the full cost of a teacher per hour? $140.00 or there about.
If we could get illegal aliens to turn each other in, just the ones trying to slip through the net, (I know thousands would attempt it) we would save billions in law enforcement, welfare programs, unemployment, medical care, job training and schools the first year.
Do all this under Executive Order and tell the Courts to back off. This is national security!
Any employer who has employed an illegal alien more than five months from the announcement date will be fined $5000 per employee. One month later enforcement begins. This will give employers 5 months to shed the illegals and hire legally papered actual American citizens.
Then on the announced date, start in a state such as Oklahoma. Well centered, not overly populated and clean the state out. This would give Homeland, INS and Border Patrol time to install their co-agents in various court houses around the country to verify a persons paperwork, i.e.. birth certificates, hospital records, etc.
Go state to state from the epicenter sweeping out the criminals who have successfully avoided suspicion. They already had 5 months to get out, hanging around to test the system carries a SEVERE penalty. They won't be able to say they weren't warned.
Divide a state into quadrants depending on population per square mile., First arrest those whose names were turn in for the bounty. Then others suspected by local law agencies. When arrests slow down, open an adjoining quadrant.
Get caught after the selected dated and the result would be every foreign national who is not in America legally would forfeit all their belongings (houses, cars, bank accounts, etc.) and be deported within 24 hours. These forfeited belongings would then be given to local churches for distribution to the needy in that community. Another cost saver!
This enforcement would apply to illegals from every country in the world, not just Mexico.
Imagine the number of Chinese who would be taking the ship home with everything in the house, new cars, you name it would be on those ships. The thousands of Canadians who decided the USA was better than Canada would be again headed North.
How many schools could be closed? How many hospitals and state paid housing tracts? How many welfare offices? How many planned jail enlargements could be stopped for lack of need?
How many state and federal employees would find out that they have the time to actually give good service to their American customers?
Oh yes, it would be an economic shocker in the amount of taxes that could be reduced or used to actually improve something needed for American citizens, instead of illegal foreigners.
Want an approximate number of the population drop? Try 50 million+ with the majority over 30 years of age, having been illegal residents of America for over ten years.
I've always wondered how many folks are on Medicare that don't deserve it. I'll bet that would save a big chuink of money that could be used for American war veterans and citizens health problems.
Just imagine the frantic squealing from our politicians thinking of the lost votes and contributions. That would be a sideshow worth watching!
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That is the same argument New York socialists used for years, pre-Giuliani, to argue against enforcing the law aginst street criminals. Then, when law enforcement under Giuliani showed some success, the socialists just shitfed their grounds to the claim that the street criminals WEREN'T street criminals, BECAUSE the majority of them were black (and 90% were black or Hispanic), and so it was racist to enforce the law. (If you criticize the logic, Sabe, just remember that it ain't mine.)
As a result, according to the Pakistani Embassy, More that 15,000 Pakistani Illegals have left America since September 11th, 2001.
Amazing isn't it? When they know they have to get out, they DO!
Your proposals - and I went off to read the linked threads - are the best I've read anywhere. I only wish that the President and his advisors had come up with something even close to approaching what you have put forth.
Bravo zulu!
I have this strange affliction that I suffer from. It's called PATRIOTISM.
I would prefer not to have dual citizenship foreigners living or working in America because I don't want anyone to have divided loyalties when it involves patriotism.
Which country is more important to you. America or your home country? If you have to make choices between your home country and America, then as far as I'm concerned make the choice to go home.
Your foreign co-worker who does not want American citizenship is coming here to suck the sweet juices out of America and then take the fruits of his labor back to his/her homeland.
America shouldn't be a country for the "convenience" of others. Too many of our citizens fought and died to make it what it is.
These people come here because their homeland isn't as productive and free as America is.
Countries that require citizenship to own property are not too business smart. Would I invest millions of dollars to start a company in a foreign country on my own? Possibly, I would if the business climate was right and I could locate competent employees.
If I have to share my business control with a foreign businessman because I am not a citizen of that country, hmmmmmm, now I would hesitate.
I am the one putting up my cash and he's putting forth his citizenship. Big Deal!
Of course, I could open my company up to shareholders, then it's not my cash anymore. So, if I lose everything it's no great loss to me personally. Just a dent in my reputation. That's what we see in international companies. The Board of Directors doesn't have a personal investment in how the company does. There is no personal loss if the company fails in a foreign country.
This policy of non-enforcement of immigration laws in America has an even more destructive effect to our communities. In many immigrant communities, assimilation into gangs is winning against assimilation into our civic culture.
The Bush administration has allowed this matricula consular card, over the strong protest of the FBI. This allow the free movement of illegal aliens across America.
I am not a social engineer but I do recognize the steps that our local, state and federal politicians have been taking to destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Being proud of our culture is what made America the country of first choice for immigration. Mexico and many other South American countries are encouraging their criminals and lower uneducated class to emmigrate to America.
Will the continued invasion of these people do anything to guarantee that America will remain the country of first choice?
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