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State Department finds Israel negligent in 1967 ship attack that killed 34 Americans (USS Liberty)
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 1/12/04 | Barry Schweid - AP

Posted on 01/12/2004 5:25:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AP) - Reviewing documents covering 36 years, the State Department concluded Monday that Israel's attack on the U.S. spy ship Liberty during the 1967 Six Day War was an act of Israeli negligence.

The United States also was negligent, a State Department official said, for failing to notify Israel that the electronic intelligence-gathering ship was cruising international waters off the Egyptian coast and for failing to withdraw the Liberty from the war zone.

A daylong conference that studied fresh documents as well as the established record failed to produce a consensus for any of three views voiced most often: Israel intentionally attacked what it knew to be a ship of the U.S. Navy, the attack was accidental, or the attack resulted from faulty judgment.

Thirty-four Americans were killed in the June 8, 1967, attack, and more than 170 were wounded.

Israel long has maintained that the attack was a case of mistaken identity, an explanation the Johnson administration did not challenge formally. Israel said its forces thought the Liberty was an Egyptian horse carrier, apologized to the United States and paid almost $13 million in compensation, some to victims or their families.

Since the United States did not intercept the order to attack the ship with cannon fire and napalm, precise facts of the attack remain elusive, the State Department official said Monday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

He called the Israeli attack and the U.S. actions a classic example of Murphy's law: "If anything can go wrong, it will."

David Hatch, a technical director at the National Security Agency, said, "The good news is that information long sought by researchers is now out, and the bad news is that it does not settle it."

The occasion for the State Department conference was the release of historical documents about the 1967 war in which Israel defeated the combined forces of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and other Arab countries in six days.

Charles Smith, a professor at the University of Arizona, said in his presentation that Israel should have known the Liberty was an American ship.

"If they didn't know, they didn't try hard enough to find out," he said.

James Bamford, an investigative journalist who has written about the incident, demanded further investigation "instead of people getting up here and giving their opinions."

"There were cover-ups," Bamford said, citing a signed affidavit by retired Navy Capt. Ward Boston, who was a leader of a military investigation into the incident.

Boston said in the affidavit in October that then-President Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara had told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

Boston, 80, who did not attend Monday's conference, said the Navy investigators were given only one week but still were able to amass "a vast amount of evidence, including heartbreaking testimony from young survivors."

Accusing Israel of a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and kill its crew, Boston said in a legal declaration in Coronado, Calif., that he was certain the Israeli pilots knew the Liberty, which clearly displayed American flags and had markings in English instead of Arabic, was a U.S. Navy ship.

Additionally, Boston said, "Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded - a war crime."

Jay Cristol, a U.S. bankruptcy court judge who has written about the incident, cited the finding of the Navy's inquiry as proof the attack was a mistake. "There was no indication they had any knowledge they were attacking a U.S. ship," Cristol told the conference.


TOPICS: Egypt; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: 1967; bloodlibel; conegligence; egypt; fogofwar; israel; negligent; shipattack; statedepartment; ussliberty; yiftachspector
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To: CIBGUY
It's very simple. The Jews intended to sink this ship with no survivors in an effort to blame the Ababs,

If that were true, then the Israelis would have flown planes with the markings of an Arab nation. Otherwise, there would be no expectation that they could get away with it because it would have to be assumed that the ship would notify US Naval Command of the attack by radio.

Try again.

41 posted on 01/13/2004 7:31:50 AM PST by Inyokern
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To: CIBGUY
If you were aware of the facts that there was an American AWACS plane in the air recording the Israeli pilots comments, you'd see that they knew exactly who they were killing, and that they were having a good time at it.

I was under the impression that the AWACS was first deployed in 1977, 10 years after this incident.

42 posted on 01/13/2004 7:42:49 AM PST by Inyokern
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To: Bennie from Boca
An Accurate and Timely Account of the Truth

Where exactly is this sourced from?...sounds like it's from the J Cristol cheering section to me.

Lots of folks aren't thrilled by the Judge, count me among them....and again, please provide your source for this piece....thanks.
43 posted on 01/13/2004 8:00:52 AM PST by mr.pink
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To: Bennie from Boca
Israel is America's greatest ally.

BS...Isreal is our highest maintenance dependent.

The Brits are our greatest ally, and to use you own words "case closed".
44 posted on 01/13/2004 8:03:59 AM PST by mr.pink
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To: Bennie from Boca
I guess for whatever reason you are unwilling to post the source for your cut and pasted article supporting the Cristol position. If the matter is "case closed"...why not include the source?

You sound like a complete religious bigot to me and a very frustrated one at that.
46 posted on 01/13/2004 1:29:30 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: Bennie from Boca
ROTFLMAO....Your "source" is the funniest F-in' thing I've ever seen posted here as defense of a position.

You have the audacity to post an anonymous "customer review" as an accredited article?....who wrote it?...Cristol's mommie?...his wife? You're quite a silly fellow, but I certainly understand now why you excluded the source from your intial posting.

No matter how you slice it, machine gunning life rafts is very naughty and a war crime, even if the gunners were just "following orders".
48 posted on 01/14/2004 11:59:43 AM PST by mr.pink
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To: Bennie from Boca
Judge Cristol's parents were holocaust survivors...

Big freakin' deal. Being a Holocaust survivor, and having a dollar seventy-five, will get you a ride on the NYC subway.

... and the judge is a first class kind of guy....

Larry Lawrence was a "first class kind of guy" too....right up to the day they dug his sorry lyin' ass out his grave and gave him the ole heave ho from Arlington cemetary.

I think painting swastikas on synagogues is something you would do as it would reinforce your paranoia and keep you confident that your perpetual victim mindset is a sound one.
50 posted on 01/14/2004 3:24:59 PM PST by mr.pink
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To: Bennie from Boca
Larry Lawrence was too much of a coward to have ever put his life at risk.

He was dug up and kicked out of Arlington National Cemetary. His presence there was an insult to all the brave men who had earned the right to rest in peace and honor there.

Poor Larry only had money...he had no honor, and he finally found a neighborhood he couldn't buy his way into.

Sorry Bennie, but you're way to much of a nitwit to waste anymore time on.
52 posted on 01/14/2004 5:58:11 PM PST by mr.pink
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