Loretta Sanchez Weighs In: Loves Bush's Plan

West coast power house KFI LA radio/ Host John and Ken | 1-7-04 | Joe Hadenuf

[FrontlinesofFreedom]

Alexandria Coronado is running against Sanchez for 2004

[harpo11]

What is this send them home in 3 years bs? Have you ever tried to get rid of a relative who wants to feed off the fat of your hard labor and law abiding good citizenship?

How many bridges that have been paid for are we still paying for? How about the income tax? Wasn't that only supposed to be temporary? My sweet Irish arse it is.

What does Rove/Bush think we are a bunch of illiterate nincompoops willing to go quietly into the night and move aside as our borders are run over by a bunch of outlaws?

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Nonsense.

It's open borders in the sense of "matching willing employers with employees". He's calling for unlimited numbers of temp visas when employers allegedly can't find American workers. But we know how that goes, H1-b has already showed us.

If this plan passes, every town and every community will be competing with foreigners for the jobs in it. And they'll get to pay for the healthcare and education of the "guests" for the pleasure.

[hripka]

There's nothing more permanent than guest workers.

Ask the Europeans who have been inviting in gastarbeiter for the past 50 years, AND NOW CAN'T GET THEM OUT.

[hripka]

1. third world people who are now free to be "willing workers" who need only line up a "willing employer" (a family member!) to get LEGAL permission to invade America.

2. So currently they just come illegally, do the same thing, earn below minimum wage, don't pay taxes, and plan their next terrorist attack without the government even knowing they're here. Which situation do you prefer?

Neither.

Just enforce the current law.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Ask the Europeans who have been inviting in gastarbeiter for the past 50 years, AND NOW CAN'T GET THEM OUT.

Absolutely, Germany especially has had a major problem with that.

A guest worker program is a back door way of increasing legal immigration. The guests will never leave and Bush and Rove know it.

[blackbart.223]

"They'll do one of three things: 1) not register to begin with, and stay underground, 2) register but simply go underground when three years are up, or 3) return to Mexico after three years, sneak back in and stay underground."

Border hopping bump.

[org.whodat]

At the end of those 3 years, they have to return to their home countries, and since they have Registered, we'll finally be able to compell them to do so. The whole trick is getting them to first Register and then later deport themselves. No wonder La Raza is upset; they've been out-Foxed.

Do you have the ten foil hat market cornered?

[JohnnyZ]

Just enforce the current law.

The current law sucks and would cost mega $$$ to enforce. It's also a bait-and-switch for immigrants who have been told "don't come here illegally (wink wink)" "don't work illegally (wink wink)". Not that enforcing current law is a bad idea, I just don't think it's the best idea.

I'd prefer another system, with dramatically increased limits of legal immigration, but I think the Bush proposal is definitely an improvement on what we have right now.

[Tauzero]

"Well, if illegals have nothing to fear from registering with our federal government, then American gun owners should have no similar fear either, right?!"

Only the law-abiding fear laws. Illegals will no more fear registration than street criminals fear gun registration laws.

[Joe Hadenuf]

At the end of those 3 years, they have to return to their home countries, and since they have Registered, we'll finally be able to compell them to do so.

I know you better than that Southhack. You can't believe this. It's not going to happen.

[Southack]

Just put yourself into the shoes of an illegal who registers for Bush's new plea bargain program.

First he Registers with our government, naming his employer, address, and family. Then he has to pay a fine for being here illegally (or he can return to his home country and apply from there to bypass the fine). Then he has to work for 3 straight years, while paying taxes (some of which will be refundable to him), and he has to avoid felonious criminal activity.

Now, at the end of 3 years, he has alot of his life and potential wealth invested in this legal program. To remain legal, he has to deport himself back to his home country. Once there, he can apply for a blue card renewal (and some will get them).

If he *doesn't* go home, then he loses his tax refund. He loses the right to be here legally ever again (per this plan), and we know where he lives and who he works for because he has Registered with the government and has been paying taxes...so suddenly hiding from the government is a big problem.

He's gone from being off of the grid (i.e. pre-2004) to being on our government's radar. We know who he is, where he lives, and who he works for...should he choose to participate in Bush's new plea bargain.

So after 3 years of participating, is he going to then give it all up to try to go underground again, or is he going to travel back to his home country and apply for a blue card renewal from there per our rules?

[PRND21]

Great post

[ATCNavyRetiree]

Oh yeah...and who are they gonna vote for, Dean?
Dean would eliminate both the Border Patrol and the checkpoints at the border crossings!
Let's face it, these Mexicans are doing the work that Americans are not willing to do.

[ATCNavyRetiree]

Ah, Senorita!!!

[ATCNavyRetiree]

Agreed.
The problem is not the good Mexicans who want to work, it is those who don't!
I lived in the San Joaquin valley for a total of 14 years (Lemoore and Fresno). The older generation Mexicans (60 y/o +) are a proud, extremely hard working bunch. Their children are for the most part just as honest. It is their grandchildren--the young lazy, gang-banging, having-babies-at-16, America-owes-me-everything bunch that are the problem, and are slowly destroying California.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

First off, national security is Number 1. This plan will encourage more cars driving back and forth across the border. That will only make Homeland Security more dangerous, and it displays a very poor sense of priorities. WMD are supposed to be Priority 1. Wrong. The Hispanic Vote is Priority 1. Why? Because no one has the guts to control our borders the way they need to be controlled. When that Mexico ambassador was caught helping Mideast terrorists get phony passports, we had every right to seal the Mexican waterways up with fixed sea mines and only allow shipping traffic in and out of Mexico at various checkpoints where we could fingerprint and photo ID everyone on board the ships. We had every right to destroy every Mexican airport that Mexico forbids us from having our own screeners in their country.

Even Rush Limbaugh doesn't buy the "Americans aren't willing to do certain jobs" line. He read an articulate account of how ultra-cheap labor causes nations to lose their technological edge: in particular, US vs. Canada in raisins. Here is an even more clear example. When did the US agricultural revolution really take off? After we abolished slavery. Machinery and innovation is always the key. Throwing extra bodies at the problem is the traditional formula for short term profits and a longterm innovation plateau.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Hispandering failed in California. The illegal immigrant drivers license, as Rush pointed out, was unpopular. If it fails in California, how much worse it will backfire across the entire US. There's something more here than vote pandering.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Urgh! POTENTIAL terrorists regarding the ambassador, and Australia raisins instead of Canadian. Coffee! I need more coffee.

[CaptIsaacDavis]

Your crude attempts at anti-conservative propaganda are not working.