For 2004, Bush Has Strength in the White Male Numbers

LA Times ^ | Dec. 28, 2003 | Ronald Brownstein

[onyx]

You know what? You single-issue guys never fail to disgust me. Thank God, the Left has the same problem with their narrow-minded folks, and that they out number ours.

[superloser]

By not voting for Bush, you are effectively voting for Dean or whoever the Dem candidate is and you exactly WILL be complicit in the destruction of the US, aiding those whose goal is to destroy America.

Excuse me, but both candidates wish for an amnesty. On this issue, there is not a gnat's eyebrow's worth of difference betwen them.

Ergo, both parties wish to send us off to national suicide, as I read the original post.

Your rebuttal?

[FairOpinion]

Governing is NOT about ONE issue.

[Wilhelm Tell]

To be a white male and still be politically correct you have to be Bill Clinton or some criminal. But I repeat myself...

[Jorge]

If he wants to keep us he will stay away from Amnesty. Do not touch the 4th rail MR. President.

Oh please. Having Howard Dean the terrorist appeaser as President will be better than giving Amnesty to working, tax-paying contributing members of society simply because they don't have their green card.
Incredible.

[FairOpinion]

This excerpt sums it up:

Uninformed voters are ruining politics

"The ignorance of the typical American when it comes to politics is often staggering.

This ignorance is the real reason special interest groups and demagogues have the success they do (though it's a wonder they don't have more). For example, we are constantly told by extreme left-wing groups and more than a few rightwing groups that there's no difference between the political parties.

As anyone who pays attention to politics knows, this is monumental nonsense on stilts; informed people understand that a Dean administration will be very different from a Bush administration.

But if you get much of your news from late-night comics - as is the case with nearly half of young voters, according to the Pew Research Center - it makes complete sense that you'd think there's no difference between the parties, in much the same way people who don't understand physics think protons and electrons are pretty much the same thing.

But Americans don't like being told they're the problem. So when they eventually tune into politics they tend to blame the candidates, as if it's the actors' fault you don't understand the play when you arrive for the last five minutes.

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What is interesting that these anti-Bush posts seem to be popping up more, as we are getting into the election season. Anyone who prefers Dean to Bush, is not entitled to call himself a conservative. PERIOD. I don't care what good sounding excuse they tout.

[onyx]

Fabulous post (excerpt) keep it handy. We will need it. Of that, I am certain.

[superloser]

Governing is NOT about ONE issue.

No, it is not. However, that was not the question. The question was: What is your rebuttal to the fact that both parties want an amnesty and that on this issue there is no differentiation between the two big parties?

If GWB truly wishes to pursue this, he will have to contend with seriously perturbing his base, which may decide to stay home on election day.

May I also point out that an amnesty of such size, if it leads to citizenship, which is what the trial balloons seem to indicate, will likely create millions of fresh Dem voters?

How, exactly, does this help the GOP?

[King Prout]

here we go... first strike of the Race Card I've noted for this election cycle.
"Bush favorite of white men" = Bush endorsed by Klan/Bush is a racist/Blacks can't trust Bush/etc...

[Jorge]

Ergo, both parties wish to send us off to national suicide, as I read the original post. Your rebuttal?

Wow..this is a tough one. All of us know that Maria the $5/hr house keeper at the San Diego Marriot will immediately join the terrorist jihad against America the minute Bush gives her amnesty. It's "national suicide" for sure. Sound the alarm!

[King Prout]

"Catholic... girl"
you, ah... you still have the uniform?
*drooooool*

*fleeing righteous wrath*

[King Prout]

I see you beat me to the same inference.

[onyx]

You know, Jorge, I think some of the 'people' here actually expect it is the GOP's duty to round-up every illegal and shove them across the border in full view of the TV cameras.

[onyx]

Catholic... girl"
you, ah... you still have the uniform?
*drooooool*

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Yes, I do, but it doesn't quite fit...... yet. It's been a whole lot of years. :)

[longtermmemmory]

Would that be the newest "mom" block for democrats? The "loopy mom" voter.

You know all the pro-Republican groups are related to raising children in families? The democrat groups are anti-family? Coincidence? (somehow mandatory guidelines struck me as indentured servitude, another days thread though)

[King Prout]

agreed. those are two of three bushwhacker issues. and the third one don't count.

[FairOpinion]

They also make a big deal that more white men without college degrees support Bush.

They do everything, but say it out loud that "only uneducated stupid white males support Bush", everyone is expected to be more "sophisticated" and support the Democrats.

[King Prout]

Maria will vote Dim.
That's essentially the same thing.
So what's your point?

[FairOpinion]

Some people have no concept of reality.

The only REALISTIC solution is to close the borders, to stop illegal immigration, then do background checks on the illegals already in the country, legalize the non-criminals, and establish a guest worker program, to allow those whose work is wanted to come and work in the US legally.

I would also favor to NOT provide government support to those who came here illegally, except under special circumstances.

The main problem is not the ones who are already here, but those who keep coming and our economy can't absorb them and of course they also take the place of those who try to come here legally, which is not fair.

Bush has strengthened the borders considerably, for which he is not being given credit.

[King Prout]

Well, the mediots may not say it aloud, but their fabulous idols do. Michael Moore (may Hell summon him SOONEST) comes to mind... Streisand... nine-tenths of Hollyweird and the Music industry... All the mediots have to do is provide a stage for the strutting primadonnas... and "fill in" the "backstory" with biased "statistics"