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Shafting the Poles (Interesting Read)
Front Page Mag ^ | 12.23.03 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 12/23/2003 3:45:44 AM PST by Dr. Marten

Shafting the Poles
By Ralph Peters
New York Post | December 23, 2003


The decisive turning point in the West's long struggle against Islamic conquerors came on the afternoon of Sept. 12, 1683, during the last Turkish siege of Vienna. Severely outnumbered Polish hussars - the finest cavalry Europe ever produced - charged into the massed Ottoman ranks with lowered lances and a wild battle cry.

Led by the valiant King Jan Sobieski, the Poles had marched to save Vienna while other Europeans looked away. The French - surprise! - had cut a deal with the sultan. (To Louis XIV, humbling the rival Habsburgs trumped the fate of Western civilization.)

The odds were grim. Many of King Jan's nobles feared disaster. But Sobieski risked his kingdom - actually a rough-and-tumble democracy - to save a continent.

On that fateful afternoon, the Polish cavalry struck the Turkish lines with such force that 2,000 lances shattered. The charge stunned the Ottoman army. A hundred thousand Turks ran for the Danube.

No army from the Islamic world ever posed such a threat to the West again.

Poland's thanks for its courage? In the next century, the country was sliced up like a pie by the ungrateful Habsburgs, along with the Romanovs of Russia and the Prussian Hohenzollerns. It was the most cynical action in European history until the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which divided Poland again in 1939.

But the Poles never gave up their belief in their country - or in freedom. During our own revolution, our first allies were Polish freedom fighters such as Casimir Pulaski and Tadeusz Kosciusko. (Paris only joined the fight when it looked like we might win. And France intervened to spite Britain, not to help us.)

Throughout the 19th century, Poles fought for freedom wherever the struggle raged, in Latin America, Greece and Italy, and on the Union side in our Civil War. Although their country had been raped by the great powers of Europe, Poles kept her cause alive.

Again and again, Poles rose against their occupiers, only to be savagely put down, with their finest young men slaughtered or marched to Siberian prisons. Then, at the end of the Great War, Poland suddenly reappeared on the maps.

What did the Poles do? They immediately saved Western civilization yet again. In the now-forgotten "Miracle on the Vistula," a patched-together Polish army turned back the Red hordes headed for Berlin. One of history's most brilliant campaigns, it saved defeated Germany from a communist takeover.

Poland's thanks? The slaughter of World War II. Then the Soviet occupation.

But the Poles never gave up. Their language, their faith - and their martial traditions - were maintained with rigor and pride. Of all the countries that gained their freedom as the Soviet Union collapsed, none had struggled for liberty as relentlessly as Poland.

Now the Poles are defending freedom again. In Iraq. While the establishment media agonize over the fickle moods of Paris and Berlin, there's little mention in the press of the superb contribution made by our Polish allies - at great cost to their own country.

In the words of an American officer who works closely with them, "Poland has taken to the Iraq mission for idealistic and principled purposes: Its leadership and military truly believe that freedom and justice are universal values worth fighting for."

To how many other nations would those words apply?

Poland has deployed 2,500 of its best soldiers to Iraq. It sent $64 million worth of its newest equipment - which operations in Iraq will ruin. Warsaw selected its finest officers to command and staff the Multinational Division Center South. A Polish major general commands a total of 12,000 troops from 22 nations with responsibility for a sector previously held by twice as many U.S. Marines. The Polish performance has been flawless.

Their reward? Surely America must recognize such a great contribution from an economically struggling ally - at a time when Polish troops also support peacekeeping missions in Afghanistan and the Balkans?

Sorry. Turkey, which stabbed us as deeply in the back as it could on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom, will receive a minimum of $2 billion from Washington - and the same elements in the Rumsfeld cabal who failed to plan for the occupation of Iraq hope to increase our aid to Ankara to $5 billion.

Pakistan, which refuses to press home the fight against al Qaeda, will get billions from Washington. The repressive Egyptian regime will get a few billion, too, as it does every year. Even Yemen will get a welfare check from Uncle Sugar.

And Poland? Like the Czech Republic, which sent a few medics to the Persian Gulf then withdrew them in panic, Poland will get a standard package of $12 million for NATO-related programs. Other than some logistical support in Iraq, that's it. Strategic peanuts for our most enthusiastic ally on the European continent.

Poland did have one request - a humble one, in the great scheme of things. Warsaw asked for $47 million to modernize six used, American-built C-130 transport aircraft and to purchase American-built HMMWV all-terrain vehicles so elite Polish units could better integrate operations with American forces. Much of the money would go right back to U.S. factories and workers.

Our response? We stiffed them.

For once, the Pentagon and the State Department agree: No can do. Impossible. Our pocket are empty. Got to FedEx every penny to our favorite dictators.

It's a mistake to over-idealize any nation. But if there's a land of heroes anywhere between the English Channel and the coast of California, it's Poland. Our Polish allies have taken a brave, costly, principled stand for freedom and democracy in Iraq. They desperately want to be seen by Washington as reliable friends in this treacherous world.

The least we could do is to treat them with respect.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: poland; ralphpeters

1 posted on 12/23/2003 3:45:44 AM PST by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten
Proud to say my (maternal)grandparents were born in Poland. The Poles are a good and true people.
2 posted on 12/23/2003 4:08:53 AM PST by sneakers
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To: Dr. Marten
BTTT
3 posted on 12/23/2003 4:21:55 AM PST by polemikos (Kool Aid -- It's a Democrat thing)
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To: archy; historian1944; centurion316; Proud Legions; SLB; M1Tanker; cavtrooper21
Military history ping
4 posted on 12/23/2003 4:26:07 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Old soldiers never die. They just go to the commissary parking lot and regroup.)
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To: sneakers
Have to agree. My memory of Poland comes from Manchester's "The Last Lion": the Poles bravely fought the Germans for two-days, actually STOPPING the German advance, holding out with elan and espirit de corps because they knew, per mutual assistance treaties with Paris, that French tanks should be slicing into the heart of Germany.

They held the line with honor, against over-whelming odds, knowing that if they could just hold on a little longer...

France never mobilized.

If we're stiffing the Poles we're doing something wrong. Somebody get George on the line. Hell, I'll tell him myself. :)

Semper Fidelis
Fen
5 posted on 12/23/2003 4:27:04 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: Dr. Marten
========= IRAQI WEAPONS from France USED Against US and Coalition Heroes ========

French missiles were found by the Poles, and to protect France, blown up.

The pompous froggies said they did not say "2003". Decide for yourself.


6 posted on 12/23/2003 4:29:18 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Dr. Marten
Interesting! I was in a bar in Krakow and was talking to the girl working there and she started going on about Bush with the whole Euro slant and I proceeded to dress her down. Then, really not knowing what to say she then went on about how Poland got the shaft regarding the Russians. Apparently she knew as much about that as current events, and my reply was to explain how FDR got set up by Uncle Joe the Bastard Georgian at Yalta as an example of how stupid the U.S. was, whether real or feinted regarding the Russkies. I then got her email and forwarded to her the story I found here on Free Republic.

Rock On!

7 posted on 12/23/2003 4:55:29 AM PST by gr8eman
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To: Dr. Marten
and the same elements in the Rumsfeld cabal who failed to plan for the occupation of Iraq

Love Ralph, and this is a fine article overall, but the Pentagon nixing the State Dept plans to use Baathists and Baath Party institutions in administering occupied Iraq is NOT the same as "failing to plan". Granted that the Pentagon had to scramble a bit in their planning, and hindsight will suggest many things that might have been done differently or better, but I nevertheless THANK GOD that these responsibilities were handed over from State to the military.

8 posted on 12/23/2003 5:00:22 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Diogenesis
Maybe that's the expiration date ; )
9 posted on 12/23/2003 5:20:54 AM PST by Vesuvian
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Interesting reading. On the paternal side of me are Germans from Poland. They immigrated in 1885, so none of the atrocities the Poles exacted on the Germans after WWII were against any of my direct kin folk, but I am certain that some shirt tail relatives remained behind. The maternal relatives fared far worse. They were Germans in Russia. My grandparents left Russia in October, 1911. They did leave some relatives behind who suffered at the hands of the Russians.
10 posted on 12/23/2003 5:27:59 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: SLB
No insult to your relatives but the actions against the Germans were brought on by the Germans themselves. For over a thousand years, led by the Teutonic knights the Germans had moved into Eastern Europe. Over time many assimilated themselves with the local populations and most got along well with their neighborus. But then in the 19th century when the German question arose, some German troublemakers like Kaiser Wilhelm II and Hitty decided to forcibely grab all land that had even a few Germans living there, like the Sudentenleand, etc. When the Germans lost, the people of that region took their revenge. The one they took their revenge on may have been innocents, in fact most likely must have been innocents, with the instigators having melted away, but nothing could really be done.

So, in a way Herr H DID solve the German problem, albeit not QUITE in the way he wanted it to be solved!
11 posted on 12/23/2003 5:43:04 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Cronos
No insult to your relatives but the actions against the Germans were brought on by the Germans themselves.

None taken.

The real kicker to me has always been the treatment of the Germans by the Russians. Again, the German population there did get some special treatment, but the Russians were so backwards that Catherine had to do something to get Russia on to the world level playing field. The treatment the Germans received after Catherine was not too bad, but once the bolsheviks took over all bets were off. My grandfather had a special place of hatred for Russians in his heart that I never really understood until I visited the American Historical Society of Germans From Russia web pages, found the story about the village they left (Huck) and what happened there.

12 posted on 12/23/2003 6:24:55 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Cronos
No insult to your relatives but the actions against the Germans were brought on by the Germans themselves. For over a thousand years, led by the Teutonic knights the Germans had moved into Eastern Europe.

That sound logic has people chasing you for a 'slavery reparations' check. Think about it.

13 posted on 12/23/2003 7:51:12 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Poland has much to atone for in the treatment of the Jews in WW2. There is still an unwillingness to deal frankly with this in many parts of Poland, sadly.
14 posted on 12/23/2003 8:02:35 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Poland has much to atone for in the treatment of the Jews in WW2. There is still an unwillingness to deal frankly with this in many parts of Poland, sadly.

[America] has much to atone for in the treatment of the [blacks] in [slavery]. There is still an unwillingness to deal frankly with this in many parts of [America], sadly.

Individuals have culpability for their individual actions, I don't entertain arguments that slight entire nations for the actions of individuals.

15 posted on 12/23/2003 8:51:21 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Nope it dun't. The non-Jerry's took it on themselves to kick butttt and took their own lives in control -- the descendents of 19th century slaves ought to do the same.
16 posted on 12/23/2003 9:10:14 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Gunslingr3
Sorry mate, I don't buy it. The Germans of today aren't to blame for what their grandparents did. Neither are the Poles of today or the American whites of today.
17 posted on 12/23/2003 9:11:53 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Dr. Marten
Another great Ralph Peters article. I keep hoping his columns will spark a revival of his older books, especially "War in 2020" and "Flames of Heaven." But, alas, they're almost impossible to find. Too bad, as they're incredible novels on a par with those of the best novelist of our age, Mark Helprin.
18 posted on 12/23/2003 9:56:22 AM PST by BroncosFan
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To: Gunslingr3
"I don't entertain arguments that slight entire nations for the actions of individuals."

I agree completely. Collective historical guilt heaped on the shoulders of people who had nothing to do with the issue is an abomination-- conservatives should support no part of it.

19 posted on 12/23/2003 10:16:40 AM PST by walden
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