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I'll gladly give up a Fiesta Bowl berth to see that classless Stoops denied a place in the Sugar Bowl. 77-0, jerk. And this Longhorn usually enjoys a good Aggie loss.

OBTW, Larry Fitzgerald for the Heisman.

Pooooooooor Soon-ERS!

1 posted on 12/06/2003 8:28:53 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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You'll enjoy this...
2 posted on 12/06/2003 8:30:09 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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Besides, I'd say its 50-50 that right now Michigan could beat them all, just as with USC the year before.

As a Michigan season ticket holder, I'll agree that Michigan might be able to beat all of them. But Michigan lost two games and doesn't deserve a chance given 3 1-loss teams ahead of them. Michigan didn't get the job done. That's the problem with a playoff, it will make a wonderful game like Michigan vs. Ohio State be a battle for seeding.

4 posted on 12/06/2003 8:31:53 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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Division I football is the only NCAA sports division without a playoff system.

It's a sham- and fans should vocally and vigourously demand a playoff system!
5 posted on 12/06/2003 8:32:22 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman.)
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They are frauds because they lost a game? They are frauds because the BCS hasn't dropped them, even though we don't know that is the case yet? How the hell would you pick the championship? P.S. Although I live in Oklahoma I really don't care. I just find the amount of emotion and illogic put into sports conversations that I pay attention to it ouf of amusement.
6 posted on 12/06/2003 8:33:53 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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it could have been 105-0 easily.....Oklahoma was taking knees with 11 minutes left.

Oklahoma not a fraud, a great team that will win the national championship.

and no, im not an oklahoma grad or fan.

GO ILLINI!! (1-11)
7 posted on 12/06/2003 8:34:48 PM PST by dennis1x
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I'll gladly give up a Fiesta Bowl berth to see that classless Stoops denied a place in the Sugar Bowl. 77-0, jerk. And this Longhorn usually enjoys a good Aggie loss.

Personally, I attribute the loss to him not kicking even more ass against A&M. I don't know football very much, but I know a lot about management and organizations. Midway through the season (halftime at the A&M game, perhaps 3 quarters into it) OU changed their organizational goal. They changed their goal from scoring as many points as possible while giving up as few as possible to one that gives a greater weight to vague and deateable concepts of sportsmanship as defined primarily by teams that are not as good as them. They changed the goal and the results changed. That shouldn't be a surprise.

10 posted on 12/06/2003 8:37:52 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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HA HA Sooners losessss

HA HA
11 posted on 12/06/2003 8:38:01 PM PST by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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Dear God, I'm from Nebraska and my Horrible Ex-Girlfriend is a K-State alum! How the hell am I supposed to feel about this???

I guess being happy the Sooners had it handed to them by ANYONE is my only option.

17 posted on 12/06/2003 8:45:10 PM PST by JennysCool
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I don't think you can fault Stoops for the 77-0 score. Stoops did what he could to keep the score down. I think tonight's game just goes to show you that sometimes you just have a really crappy day. The Aggies knew that already. Now, OU knows it too.
18 posted on 12/06/2003 8:45:39 PM PST by DrewsDad
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I hope you were equally appalled when the Aggies ran up the score on Baylor in their 73-10 victory.
22 posted on 12/06/2003 8:52:21 PM PST by writmeister
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An ESPN "BCS expert", because of LSU's strength of schedule vs. Southern Cal's, has LSU playing OU in the Sugar Bowl.

A Boise St. win over Hawaii seals the deal.

BSU 0
HAW 0
7:24 1st Quarter

24 posted on 12/06/2003 8:55:45 PM PST by hole_n_one
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I'll gladly give up a Fiesta Bowl berth to see that classless Stoops denied
a place in the Sugar Bowl.


Diddle E. Squat,
Even if I'm a modest Sooner fan, I agree.
Stoops and team should get a smack for having lost to the Mild-Cats.

And this Longhorn usually enjoys a good Aggie loss.

Stoops has some sort of blind-spot. I guess he thought that when he and the team
made it past Oklahoma State this year, they already owned the crown.
Guess again, Stoops. Another bunch of Aggies just sunk your battleship.

OBTW, Larry Fitzgerald for the Heisman.

Agreed. Too bad a fair number of Heisman voters have already mailed in their ballots
(according to ESPN radio this past week).
26 posted on 12/06/2003 8:56:50 PM PST by VOA
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LSU is playing the best football of the three right now, but who knows what the computers will say?
32 posted on 12/06/2003 9:02:58 PM PST by squidly
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Three teams now have one loss. Two of them are playing their best football as late in the season as it gets, December 6, 2003.

Those two teams are USC and LSU!
38 posted on 12/06/2003 9:13:01 PM PST by auboy (I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
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Special to ESPN.com
ESPN's Brad Edwards breaks down the impact of Syracuse's 38-12 win over Notre Dame -- a result that may allow LSU to make it to the BCS championship game:

Edwards: "Notre Dame's loss weakens USC and will allow LSU to finish with a better schedule strength than the Trojans. If LSU and Boise State (an 11-point favorite at Hawaii) both win tonight, LSU will end up at least five schedule strength spots ahead of USC, which means the Tigers would only need supremacy in six computers to make up the rest of its current deficit. I believe they will finish ahead of USC in at least six, if not all seven computers.

USC could beat Oregon State by 50, and it won't matter, because LSU doesn't need to jump USC in the human polls. LSU should be in the Nokia Sugar Bowl with a win tonight unless Hawaii beats Boise State, which would make it necessary for LSU to get one-tenth of a point in quality-win bonus from Georgia remaining in the BCS top 10. If LSU is able to jump USC in all seven computers, however, the quality-win points won't be necessary.

If LSU and Boise State both win, USC's only remaining chance would be for Oklahoma to lose and fall to No. 2 in the polls -- between USC and LSU. If the Sooners lose and fall to No. 3 in both polls, then USC would be No. 1 in both polls and finish third in the BCS.

Basically, if LSU, Oklahoma and Boise State all win tonight, I feel confident that LSU will be No. 2 when the BCS comes out tomorrow."

Brad Edwards is a researcher for ESPN. His Road to the BCS column appears every Sunday.

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DFU NOTE: Hawaii leads Boise St. 7-0 in 1st Quarter

44 posted on 12/06/2003 9:16:53 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary would get 100% of the Islamist Terrorist vote)
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USC and LSU should meet for the championship

USC has the longest winning streak of the once defeated teams.
They still might get ripped off...F the BCS!

45 posted on 12/06/2003 9:17:02 PM PST by PRND21
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We do agree on one point. The Sooners got their collective butt whipped tonight. However, like it or not, they will play for the national championship and they will win. Actually, I pity the opponent who has to meet them after such a humiliating defeat. Can you say OU, 2003 National Champions?.... It is a stretch tonight but tomorrow is a new day..... GO SOONERS..
65 posted on 12/06/2003 9:38:03 PM PST by maxter
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I'm a Longhorn, too, but geez, I wanted UT to be in the Rose Bowl. Now, it looks like there's no shot. I'm all ears for a good playoff system proposal
71 posted on 12/06/2003 9:55:53 PM PST by Flightdeck
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Wow! That takes some grawls for a Longhorn to post those comments. I thought it was only the DU types who would be upset by such a dominant (77-0) performance.

Looks like OU vs LSU in the Sugar Bowl. At least USC can win the "official" (AP) championship with a win in the Rose Bowl.

74 posted on 12/06/2003 10:10:38 PM PST by kwyjibo
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The screwiest thing about all of this is that a likely outcome (if USC is left out of the Sugar Bowl and wins the Rose Bowl) will be a split national championship. Which is exactly what the BCS was established to avoid.

College football has other problems the BCS can't help. The Big 12 and SEC play a conference championship game, while the PAC-10 and Big 10 don't. Leave out the conference championship, and no one would be arguing OU shouldn't be in the Sugar Bowl. Allowing some BCS conferences to give their regular season champion an easier path to the bowls is not something any system - inculding the old AP / Coaches polling system - can fix.

And a play off system is still going to have an arbitrary cut-off point where some 2 or 3 loss team playing hot at the end of the season will be left out, while some 2 or 3 loss team they soundly beat earlier in the season wins the championship. It will also take a lot of the excitement out of the regular season games.

Short answer - no system is going to please everyone.

92 posted on 12/07/2003 7:30:42 AM PST by Snuffington
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