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Is this the kind of country you want? A letter to my Republican friend. ---(hurl alert)
The Crisis Papers ^ | 12.1.03 | tuckrdout

Posted on 12/01/2003 12:32:13 PM PST by tuckrdout

Is This the Kind of Country That You Want? A Letter to a Republican Friend

By Ernest Partridge Co-Editor, The Crisis Papers October 14, 2003

Note: While I have many Republican friends, none are named “Whitney.” This letter is for all my Republican friends in general, and none in particular. It is also for all Republicans with whom I am not personally acquainted, who are willing to pause and reflect upon the condition of their party and their country, and then upon their consequent duty as citizens of the United States.

Dear Whitney,

At no time in my memory, or yours, I suspect, has the rivalry between the two major parties been more mean-spirited and poisonous.

And yet, despite our separate party affiliations, we remain close friends as we have for all the decades since high school. Moreover, I see no reason for this to change, nor, I trust, do you..

Surely you know that I have never regarded you as a fascist, just as I know that you have never thought of me as a traitor. Yet these are the kinds of labels that are routinely hurled by one fringe of our respective parties against the other.

Such mutual incivility is more than acutely unpleasant, it strikes at the foundation of our republic. Thus it falls upon cooler heads, such as ourselves, to reject the insult and abuse, and to restore the calm civic dialog and mutual respect that is the foundation of a just and secure political order.

Sadly, much more is required if we are to restore our republic to its former health and vigor. For our country and its founding political principles are gravely endangered by a radicalism that has taken control of all branches of our government as well as our mass media.

This means that it has, regretfully, taken control of the Republican Party – your party. It is thus imperative that moderates, such as yourself, take back their party.

I suspect that this stark accusation might put you on the defensive. If you feel that the Democrats also pose a threat to our republic, I invite you to present your case and I promise to consider it carefully. But first, please hear me out,

Our respective political differences manifest more than contrasting political philosophies. These differences issue from contrasting professional perspectives, career commitments, family backgrounds, social contacts, and even religious commitments. Though different, our perspectives on life and politics may be more complementary and compatible, rather exclusive.

I chose an academic career. You opted to join your father’s small manufacturing enterprise. So we encountered government differently. The taxpayers furnished my salary, while government imposed environmental and work safety regulations on your company.

I joined the California Teachers Association – a union. You were management, at the other side of the bargaining table.

In my professional life, I had the privilege of teaching foreign students, corresponding with scholars abroad, and frequently traveling overseas to international conferences. You had to deal with the problem of competition with foreign goods.

As a philosopher, my convictions strayed from religious faith of my childhood. You have remained steadfast in your religious convictions. So, of course, we have different views on the relationship of church and state.

And so, of course, we adopted different attitudes toward government, labor relations, foreign policy, and so forth. Almost inevitably, you have allied yourself with the Republicans, and I have supported the Democrats – albeit often reluctantly, as “the lesser of the evils.”

Our political differences have been a constant topic of conversation between us over the years, occasionally heated, but never placing our friendship in any great peril. You see, we are both moderates. And while, in our arguments, our attention was understandably focused upon our differences, we took little notice of our common ground of commitment and belief.

You correctly describe yourself as a “Conservative.” I am willing to be called a “liberal,” despite the recent disparagement of that once honorable label. However, because of the abuse of that word, I prefer to call myself a “progressive.” “Conventional wisdom” treats “conservative” and “liberal” as opposing point of view. I prefer to see them as complementary. Thus an authentic conservative and a liberal can hold a great deal in common.

For example:

We both revere our founding documents, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Accordingly, we believe that “to secure these rights" to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, "governments are instituted among men.”

Along with the founders of our republic, we share a suspicion of “big government” and thus endorse the protection of our “inalienable rights” as articulated in the Bill of Rights.

We both believe that our elected leaders have a bond of honor to the citizens which requires that these leaders deal candidly, openly and honestly with the people.

We both prize freedom, though you are more inclined to interpret freedom in economic terms, while my attention is directed to freedom of inquiry and expression.

With Jefferson, we both believe that a free press and the open competition of ideas are the life blood of a democracy.

With Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Monroe, we eschew “foreign entanglements” and disavow any imperial ambitions for our country.

Despite our religious differences, we both endorse the “traditional values” that are taught by all the great world religions: tolerance, mercy, charity, compassion, moderation, peacemaking.

We both reject sudden social change through violence or the radical imposition of alien ideologies.

These are all, let us note, “conservative” values, which we learned together from the outstanding public school teachers that taught us history and civics. These values have stood the test of time, and may serve us well today. Neither of us are at all inclined to abolish these principles.

The differences between “conservatism” and “liberalism” are grounded in perspective and in emphases – again, not necessarily in conflict.

Webster’s dictionary defines “conservatism” as “The practice of preserving what is established; disposition to oppose change in established institutions and methods.”

The liberal looks forward to an improvement of the human condition. The best expression that comes to my mind is that of Edward Kennedy, at the funeral of his brother, Robert F. Kennedy:

"My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life, to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it... As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him: "Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not."

The liberal, then, is a “meliorist” – one who endorses worthy values and institutions received from the past, and who recognizes suffering and injustice in the present which he strives to ease and rectify for the future.

What deserves most to be preserved from the past, and improved in the future? In the specific answer to these questions reside the divergences of our political opinions. But in the general content of these received principles and future aspirations, we are united. It is that concurrence which has bound our nation together.

Until now.

For now I must urge you to look directly and soberly upon your Party. With the aforementioned principles of conservatism firmly in your mind, ask yourself: Does this organization embody your conservative convictions? Do those public figures who so readily describe themselves as “conservative” authentically fit that label? Where your Party is leading our country, do you truly wish to follow?

For consider:

Can you, as a defender of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, support the Patriot Act, and the fact that under its provisions, at least three of your fellow citizens are today incarcerated without charge, without access to counsel, with no prospect of a trial and release – all this in violation of the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth articles of the Bill of Rights?

Can you support an Administration that assumed power through election fraud, the disfranchisement of thousands of our fellow citizens, the violent disruption of official vote counting, and an arbitrary and incoherent ruling by five partisan judges?

Can you, as an opponent of “foreign entanglements” support a war of aggression, launched under demonstrably false pretenses, and provoking a world-wide hostility toward the United States administration?

Can you, as a conservative, sanction a federal deficit this year of half a trillion dollars and several trillion dollars over the next several years, causing an unbearable financial burden upon the generations that follow?

If conservatives believe in limited government, then can you, as a conservative, accept without protest, government surveillance of your book purchases and your e-mail? Is it the business of the government to interfere with a woman’s control over her own body?

Conservatives uphold the rule of law. Can you then condone the arbitrary violation of laws by the President and members of his administration – including the Presidential Records Act, the Freedom of Information Act, the law forbidding the “outing” of covert CIA agents and organizations?

Conservatives insist upon responsibility and accountability. Can you then allow exceptions by such well-placed individuals such as Ken Lay, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove?

As a conservative who believes in free markets and free enterprise, are you not concerned about the growth of monopolistic cartels and conglomerates which stifle and absorb competitors (e.g., Microsoft). Are you troubled by the fact that virtually all broadcast media in the United States are owned and controlled by six corporations, and that the corporation- friendly Federal Communications Commission has ruled in favor of still greater media market concentration? Are you aware of the devastation that WalMart has caused to small town business throughout the country?

If these trends and conditions trouble you, then you are in agreement with this liberal, for we both find in this list a violation of our shared political and economic convictions.

For this reason, I refuse to describe the ideology and policies of the controlling faction of your party as “conservative.” Far better to describe it as “right-wing” or “radical right.”

Consider next, the corruption of our politics. The right wing has repudiated our tradition of civic friendship, and instead regards its political opponents as “traitors.” Liberal policies are condemned, not merely as erroneous or misguided, but as “evil.” Politics today has become “warfare by other means,” wherein it is not enough to defeat one’s opponents in a fair election; the opponent must be destroyed. Witness the attacks on the Clintons, and on John McCain in the South Carolina primary of 2000.

Thus our once-united national community is being split into warring factions as we forget our common loyalties and lose the capacity to act in common purpose.

There may be among your fellow Republicans, individuals who would respond, “spare me all this ideological Choctaw. My politics is guided by my self-interest, and it is clear to me that Republican policies are best for my investments, my business, and my personal prosperity.” Surely such a consideration is at least an ingredient of the Republican case.

However, on close examination, even the appeal to self-interest fails the radical right. Be honest, now: would you trade your investment portfolio today with the one you had when Bill Clinton left office? Don’t you feel at least a little anxious about the direction of the Bush economy – with ever increasing unemployment, ever-decreasing consumer confidence and disposable income, interest in the national debt soon to become the largest item in the federal budget, and half of that national debt owed to foreign creditors? In point of fact, throughout the twentieth century, the stock market has performed better under Democratic presidents and congresses. . (See also). History confirms Harry Truman’s observation, “to live like a Republican, vote like a Democrat”.

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To: tuckrdout
Be honest, now: would you trade your investment portfolio today with the one you had when Bill Clinton left office?

Yes I would but because I bailed at the peak 2 years before Clinton left office. But wait now. When did the E-Commerce Boom bust? When did Worldcom, Enron, etc.. establish and run their book cooking schemes? How can the left continue to say that false jobs created in a false environment that started, grew, and began failing under Clintoon are GWB's fault. Is it just because GWB doesn't rub elbows with the Ed Asners of the world or play the sax like crap, that the left hates him so.
21 posted on 12/01/2003 12:52:08 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance can be corrected with knowledge. Stupid is permanent.)
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To: tuckrdout
Can you, as a defender of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, support the Patriot Act, and the fact that under its provisions, at least three of your fellow citizens are today incarcerated without charge, without access to counsel, with no prospect of a trial and release – all this in violation of the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth articles of the Bill of Rights?

Obviously confuse between the Patriot Act and those being held at Guantanamo Bay. The Patriot Act mostly makes it easier to obtain search warrents, tap phones, etc for those suspected of terrorism.

22 posted on 12/01/2003 12:52:43 PM PST by Always Right
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To: tuckrdout
I think that it deserves a cut and paste response too (that way all libs who email bomb people with this can get a quick response to make them swallow their pride).

That said, this thread got ZOTted (and pulled) the last time this was posted.

23 posted on 12/01/2003 12:57:03 PM PST by weegee
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To: tuckrdout
As a philosopher, my convictions strayed from religious faith of my childhood. You have remained steadfast in your religious convictions. So, of course, we have different views on the relationship of church and state.

What? Why would one person's being religious and another's being irreligious result in their developing different views on the relationship of religion to the state? How does that follow? My theory: This is pure projection. This is the author telling you that if he were religious he would be ramming his dogma down everybody's throat, and that he suspects everyone who is religious of plotting to do just that. By this point the author is weaving like Ted Kennedy on Chappaquiddick bridge, a few grafs later he sails over the side with all that 'stolen election' malarkey.

What a condescending jerk.

24 posted on 12/01/2003 12:57:40 PM PST by redbaiter
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To: tuckrdout
There's so many idiotic things in this screed (and a few intelligent ones). Even so, this inanity stood out:
Can you, as a defender of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, support the Patriot Act, and the fact that under its provisions, at least three of your fellow citizens are today incarcerated without charge, without access to counsel, with no prospect of a trial and release – all this in violation of the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth articles of the Bill of Rights?
Setting aside, for the moment, whether it's accurate to say that at least three "citizens" are being held, and whether it makes a difference if the "citizen" was captured in a foreign country in the uniform of an enemy combatant - the Patriot Act has absolutely nothing to do with this. Regardless of whether the administration is correct in asserting this power, it is not a power claimed under the auspices of the Patriot Act, but under the Constitutional Power of the Executive Branch to wage war. If you want to challenge it on constitutional grounds, do so (I may agree with you in part), but I really wish that the civil-libertarian left would please quit raising the bugaboo of the Patriot Act to encompass everything that you don't like. It's tough to take these arguments seriously when their premises are built on nothing but crap.
25 posted on 12/01/2003 12:57:52 PM PST by AZPubbie
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To: CyberCowboy777
He basically states that he has a well-rounded and experienced life view and his conservative friend has a selfish limited view.

And yet, for all that, I'd love to see his list of what Academics have contributed to the welfare of the world as compared to, say, small business owners.

Shalom.

26 posted on 12/01/2003 12:59:59 PM PST by ArGee (Scientific reasoning makes it easier to support gross immorality.)
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To: tuckrdout
Conservatives insist upon responsibility and accountability. Can you then allow exceptions by such well-placed individuals such as Ken Lay, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove?

Ken Lay is not a Republican and donated huge sums to the Clintons. Cheney and Rove are responsible for all their actions, they just don't have to bow down to the liberals in the Senate. Creating crap where there is none.

27 posted on 12/01/2003 1:00:18 PM PST by Always Right
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To: tuckrdout
For this reason, I refuse to describe the ideology and policies of the controlling faction of your party as “conservative.” Far better to describe it as “right-wing” or “radical right.”

He almost got it there.

The real problem with the GOP nowadays is that it sucks up to corporations. Of course, the Democratic leaders do that, too, but they like to make people think they don't.

What we need are not moderates, but just... conservatives. People who won't stand for corrupt leadership. People like Ronald Reagan and Barry Morris Goldwater. The Republican Party still has the moral high horse, but the GOP leaders need to stop acting so wussy.

28 posted on 12/01/2003 1:03:09 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: tuckrdout
Consider next, the corruption of our politics. The right wing has repudiated our tradition of civic friendship, and instead regards its political opponents as “traitors.”

Reading Democratic websites and seeing them trash our military and cheer on Saddam's militia, I can only say they are many traitors on the Democratic side. These sickos are skeptical of US victories and are openly excited when more of our troops die. DUers were actually disappointed and in disbelief when the initial report of claimed no US fatalitites.

29 posted on 12/01/2003 1:04:50 PM PST by Always Right
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To: tuckrdout
At no time in my memory, or yours, I suspect, has the rivalry between the two major parties been more mean-spirited and poisonous.

And whose fault is that? Hmmm?

I have the impression that the Republicans, in the Senate in particular have been rather subdued and civil.

It's the people like Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Dick Gepherdt, Howard Dean, Carol Moseley Braun, Al Sharpton that have been nasty, venomous and vitrioloic. Not to mention Michael Moore and all his sycophant DemBots in Hollyweird.

What do all these folks have in common? C'mon...you can say it...They're DEMOCRATS.

30 posted on 12/01/2003 1:05:50 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I have opinions of my own - strong opinions - but I don't always agree with them.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

And whose fault is that? Hmmm?

I have the impression that the Republicans, in the Senate in particular have been rather subdued and civil.

It's the people like Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Dick Gepherdt, Howard Dean, Carol Moseley Braun, Al Sharpton that have been nasty, venomous and vitrioloic. Not to mention Michael Moore and all his sycophant DemBots in Hollyweird.

What do all these folks have in common? C'mon...you can say it...They're DEMOCRATS.

Michael Moore endorsed Ralph Nader. He's not a Democrat.

31 posted on 12/01/2003 1:08:28 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: tuckrdout
Short answer response:

Who cares what communists think? America is a soverign nation.

"Clinton haters" despised what X42 did with the office of the presidency (and knew before he was elected that he was a lying liar). The Right Wingers never once said that the Presidency as an office was evil though (anarchist-socialists and communists do).

That distinction between the far left and right is what makes this criticism different. Bush haters make no bones about it that they hate him, his family, his political party, his political supporters, corporations, and the notion of a FREE and INDEPENDENT America.

Mr. Clinton and the DNC have been sowing the seeds of hate for a long time. They drove fictional wedges of racial and class envy/hatred. There was a big investigation into the internal threats to American security (while external threats were ignored repeatedly). Even the FBI was brought in to trumpet the issue of "racially motivated" church fires but at the end of the day the issue proved to be false.

Americans may one day be civil with one another but we have to get the congressmen who call Republicans "Nazis" on the floor out of office.

Americans may one day be civil with one another but we need to media to be honest about their left leaning bias and the awarding of a "Best Documentary" Oscar for a hoaxed up work of fiction (a film that won for political reasons, not quality or honesty).

There are some baiting the public into outragous riots and protests in the streets. Their end goal is the destruction of our government. Are all dissenters communists? No but the ringleaders quite often are. The rest are just Red Dupes.

32 posted on 12/01/2003 1:08:31 PM PST by weegee
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To: dighton
So much for "civility."

And look at the byline next to it:

Justin Raimondo.

33 posted on 12/01/2003 1:08:48 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (I have opinions of my own - strong opinions - but I don't always agree with them.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Yep.
34 posted on 12/01/2003 1:09:25 PM PST by dighton
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To: tuckrdout
INTREP - read again later
35 posted on 12/01/2003 1:11:43 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: ArGee
It seems the greatest achievements of the 20th century were of war and capitalism.

Not Harvard classrooms.

Question: Do you think Wright brothers would have succeeded under the current breadth of government?
36 posted on 12/01/2003 1:13:15 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to feel.)
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To: freedomcrusader
What you said.
When congressmen start attacking each other with say canes, viciously clubbing one almost to the point of death, now that would be uncivil. We still have a way to go to get back there.


37 posted on 12/01/2003 1:13:35 PM PST by hirn_man
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To: tuckrdout
American "Liberalism" is progressive - just like cancer!
38 posted on 12/01/2003 1:15:13 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: tuckrdout
Sadly, much more is required if we are to restore our republic to its former health and vigor. For our country and its founding political principles are gravely endangered by a radicalism that has taken control of all branches of our government as well as our mass media.

The radicalism is the socialist/anarchist enviroment being promoted by Democrats. If the writer doesn't like that, he needs to leave that party.

Becki

39 posted on 12/01/2003 1:15:14 PM PST by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: tuckrdout
Can you support an Administration that assumed power through election fraud, the disfranchisement of thousands of our fellow citizens, the violent disruption of official vote counting, and an arbitrary and incoherent ruling by five partisan judges?

He lost me there.

40 posted on 12/01/2003 1:16:45 PM PST by TankerKC (Member since before you! I win!)
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