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Paul Craig Roberts: "Loss of Jobs in America"
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Posted on 11/12/2003 11:33:47 AM PST by Theodore R.

Loss of Jobs in America Paul Craig Roberts

Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2003 Are we being spun on jobs by the White House and the rah-rah Bush media like we are being spun on Iraq? Make up your own mind after considering the following.

Only a few of the 116,000 private sector jobs created in October provide good incomes: 6,000 new positions in legal services and accounting – activities that reflect corporations gearing up to protect their top executives from Sarbanes-Oxley.

The remainder of the 116,000 new jobs consist of temps, retail trade, telephone marketing, and fund raising, administrative and waste services, and private education and health services.

Physicians' offices hired 9,000 people to cope with Medicare and insurance company paperwork. Nursing and residential care facilities hired 5,000, childcare services hired 6,000, and hospitals hired 3,000.

Many of the new jobs do not pay enough to support a family. The temp and retail jobs are 40 percent of the total.

All of the new jobs are in services. None of the new service jobs are capable of producing export earnings to bring balance to our massive trade deficit.

Jobs capable of producing tradable goods and services continue to be lost at a rapid rate. In the last three months, the United States lost 91,000 manufacturing jobs.

Computer jobs have disappeared. In Tampa, San Antonio, Seattle and California, office buildings are closed that a few years ago contained tens of thousands of computer engineers. People who in 2000 were making between $60,000 and $100,000 annually cannot today find jobs.

On Nov. 3, CBS News reported: "U.S. October layoffs surge 125 percent." Layoff announcements from U.S. companies more than doubled in October to 171,874, the highest in a year according to the outplacement firm Challenger Gray & Christmas. In October, the auto industry sacked 28,000 workers and telecommunications companies cut 21,000 jobs.

While the ladders of upward mobility are collapsing, the United States continues to import several million legal and illegal poor immigrants each year. Thirty-five million Mexicans are not needed to pick the California fruit and vegetable crops. There is no economic or social rationale for the United States to permit massive inflows of poor people, whose needs are overwhelming U.S. taxpayers, hospitals and government budgets.

Population experts predict that immigration will boost the U.S. population by 100 million people by mid-century. Imagine what that portends for energy consumption and the environment.

The United States is already a heavy energy importer with a serious trade deficit. The economic development projected for Asia means a huge increase in world energy consumption. Unlike the United States, Asian economies have export surpluses with which to pay their energy bills.

It is possible that the loss of American jobs in tradable goods and services, combined with the importation of massive numbers of poor people, will leave the United States without the means to purchase its energy needs in world markets. When the dollar's value is undermined by budget and trade deficits, energy prices for Americans will explode.

A country that substitutes foreign labor for its own domestic labor via outsourcing, offshore production and Internet hiring, a country that transfers its wealth to foreigners to pay for imports, a country that fills up with welfare-dependent multitudes while it squanders $200 billion in Iraq is a country headed for Third World status.

Some industry experts argue that the United States has lost so much of its core industrial capability that advanced manufacturing skills are disappearing in this country. The United States lacks mass production ability in critical areas of high-tech manufacturing.

The United States assembles parts made elsewhere. Knowledge- and capital-demanding activities, such as charge-coupled devices, industrial robotics, numerically controlled machine tools, laser diodes and carbon fibers, are passing out of U.S. hands.

A service economy has less to export than a manufacturing economy. What will the United States sell abroad to pay for its energy and manufacturing imports?

We are currently paying for our imports by giving up the ownership of our companies, real estate, and corporate and government bonds. Once the United States has spent its wealth, we will have no way to pay for the energy and manufactured goods on which we have become import-dependent.

While the once fabulous U.S. economy erodes, the hapless Bush administration thinks its most important goal is to waste American lives and massive sums of money to force "democracy" on Middle Eastern peoples who do not want it.

COPYRIGHT 2003 CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.

Dr. Roberts' latest book, "The Tyranny of Good Intentions," has been published by Prima Publishers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; buygoldnowmorelater; buymygold; democracy; economy; energy; goldbuggery; goldfingered; goldmineshaft; immigration; lowpayingjobs; media; middleeast; paulcraigroberts; pleasebuymygold; theskyisfalling; unemployment; youneedgoldbad
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1 posted on 11/12/2003 11:33:48 AM PST by Theodore R.
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2 posted on 11/12/2003 11:37:16 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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3 posted on 11/12/2003 11:37:39 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Theodore R.
While the once fabulous U.S. economy erodes, the hapless Bush administration thinks its most important goal is to waste American lives and massive sums of money to force "democracy" on Middle Eastern peoples who do not want it.

Not the way it looks to me:

Iraq, disregarding what is hoped for it officially, is a sinkhole into which the pirates of Islam are pouring themselves to sacrifice upon the bayonets of soldiers who, unlike most of their other victims, can defend themselves....a conflict of attrition which will soon render the numbers of crazy terrorists below the critical mass of sustainability. Kudos to GW. Democracy, or whatever, is a good goal, but not essential to the mission of protecting the civilized world against those who try to destroy it.

And as for the economy, while the illegals are a drain on welfare, the outsourcing woes--- and the job-loss purported to come of it---are not going to hurt in the long-run; in fact, the lower costs to business and the increased productivity caused therefrom, will be a boon to US workers...who now (and here on this 'conservative' site) clamor for fascism to stem the flow of offshore contracting. [yes Lael, et alia, talkin' 'bout youse]

4 posted on 11/12/2003 11:55:07 AM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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You're nuts. Your last paragraph simply is not based on any reality here in the US.

I can give you case after case from my own personal knowledge of friends losing hi-end jobs as well as businesses here in CT due to the huge influx of illegals. House framing labor rates have been driven down from $16.00 per hour, to $8.00 per hour. It used to be that one could at least make a living as an apprentice house framer (right out of State Trade tech. high schools). No more. I have friends in the construction business that are basically forced to hire illegals, just to compete with the scumbags who hire illegals exclusively. The funny part happens when things go wrong on the job site. There are a lot of (true) tales out there regarding non-skilled illegals phuking up many a job, only to leave the builder and home owner behind and go on to the next job site. All the while leaving the home-owner with a $50,000.00-$200,000.00 "mistake" on his hands.

I could tell you about all the entry level jobs in HVAC, Heating, Plumbing, Auto Body repair, Automotive repair, Carpentry etc, being glommed up by illegals, leaving the recent graduates from my states trade high schools unable to find work in their trades in which they've trained in for 4 years.

I could tell you about a personal friend who refused to hire untrained (horticulture) help and ran the states 4th largest landscaping business with over 65 employees and millions of dollars in equipment, driven out of business by hoardes of beaners in clapped out pick-up trucks with push mowers. These illegals pay no taxes, pay no insurance, (piss all over the lawns of multi-million dollar homes) and charge 1/2 price because of it.

Is this you're Utopia?

5 posted on 11/12/2003 12:59:39 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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Fyi...
6 posted on 11/12/2003 1:30:56 PM PST by Starwind (The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
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To: Theodore R.
While the once fabulous U.S. economy erodes, the hapless Bush administration thinks its most important goal is to waste American lives and massive sums of money to force "democracy" on Middle Eastern peoples who do not want it.

I see Paul Craig Roberts has joined the sky is falling, whining crowd of malcontents. Damn fool.

7 posted on 11/12/2003 1:52:29 PM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: taxed2death
The funny part happens when things go wrong on the job site. There are a lot of (true) tales out there regarding non-skilled illegals phuking up many a job, only to leave the builder and home owner behind and go on to the next job site. All the while leaving the home-owner with a $50,000.00-$200,000.00 "mistake" on his hands.

Not a new problem, and not one exclusively attributable to illegal immigrants. A person who hires a builder without checking past performance, without confirming insurance, if a fool. The market quickly boots unsavory contractors. Here in Massachusetts, reputable builders have more work than they can handle. Maybe your buddy should move?

My shop tech teacher (trade school...cabinet-building and framing, me) used to say the customer is the boss. Your friend could have adjusted to the demands of the market as required by his clients, but refused. He must be an 'Artiste'.

I hate whining; there's plenty of opportunity that results from every down circumstance in the market. Smart, hard-working folk will get it, and prosper. Whiners demand the gubmint 'do something'.

I know a good harness maker, displaced by the automobile, still looking for work....been 90 years since he had a job.

Note that I put aside the immigrant problem in my nutty last paragraph.

8 posted on 11/12/2003 2:00:42 PM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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To: Theodore R.
Jobs capable of producing tradable goods and services continue to be lost at a rapid rate. In the last three months, the United States lost 91,000 manufacturing jobs.

Yet production continues to increase. The second sentence does not support the first.

9 posted on 11/12/2003 2:06:13 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: taxed2death
Is this you're Utopia?

My Utopia is a confederation of States that preserves freedom for me and my posterity, and a national government that restrains its hammy 'helping hands', and focuses on it's enumerated duties. Thom Jefferson and a bunch of other idealistic nuts wrote about it: check it out, duuuude.

Next?

10 posted on 11/12/2003 2:08:21 PM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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To: taxed2death

The problem with so many neo-cons are they are just as far away from reality as the elite liberals they oppose. The current economic situation is not politically sustainable long term, too many fat cats willing to cell out their fellow citizens for their 30 peices of silver. It will be a matter of time before the backlash will not be able to be contained.
11 posted on 11/12/2003 2:33:22 PM PST by JNB
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To: dasboot

Oh boy, another buggy whip comparison. Please, that is just as nutty as the $10 a head for cabbage scenario that so many people spurt. Face it, the combination of no real enforcement on immigration and job outsourcing is a political time bomb, and while Limbaugh and the pundits at the WSJ editorial pages may not see it, the anger and brewing backlash is all too real. The fact here at FR, the prime grass roots conservative site on the web has severe disagreements on these issues does not bode well for the current socio-economic situation being sustained.
12 posted on 11/12/2003 2:36:46 PM PST by JNB
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To: dasboot
You're right, I'm wrong. How silly of me to whine because my government refuses to obey the Constitution and protect the borders.

Next.
13 posted on 11/12/2003 2:49:09 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: JNB
and job outsourcing is a political time bomb You're right, but there's nothing rightly political about it. HAND'S OFF!

Yep, there's a lot of gnashing about economic flux on this here site.....and it's heart-breaking. The only solutions offered are to limit freedom, force, require, compel, etc. Poison antidotes.

I thought the harness thing was original....looking at a 1903 city directory last year, I noticed every fifth 'head of household' was a harness-maker.

14 posted on 11/12/2003 2:53:05 PM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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To: dasboot
You're right again. I'll run right over to my buddies $900,000.00 house off of Westport center and tell him he was doing it all wrong, all along. He needs to sell the house, move into a tenement in Bridgeport with 15 or 20 of his relatives, sell his Benz and get a chebbie with a "crew" of 6 beaners and 6 push mowers.

Man, that was so easy, what was I thinking.

Thanks for the tip.

Do you have an MBA?
15 posted on 11/12/2003 2:53:45 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
You rightly whine about borders.
16 posted on 11/12/2003 2:54:43 PM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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To: taxed2death
The Democratic Party is offering your preferred solutions.
17 posted on 11/12/2003 2:56:09 PM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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To: dasboot

And they seamlessly went into the auto industry, they required almost no retraining for their skills, and the auto industry jobs were simpily down the street, literally. There was no job outsourcing 100 years ago, and people that use this flawed comparison time and again have no understanding of economics or history.

As for "freedom", the US had tariffs at high levels till the late 70s, so was the pre new deal America, much less the pre civil war America, anti freedom when it came to economics?
18 posted on 11/12/2003 3:01:01 PM PST by JNB
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To: dasboot

Borders are what define the US. If you are not for border and immigration enforcement, then you do not believe in the concpet of a nation of laws. Of course, many hire illegals without regaurds for the law, making no better than drug dealers.
19 posted on 11/12/2003 3:02:44 PM PST by JNB
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To: JNB
Only one thing to do, then: put all the businesses in the US on-notice that their decisions about how they shall proceed must be submitted in writing and approved before they may act. That will surely employ a lot of unemployed.

I do not like that world. And it is a prescription for economic death.

I place my faith in freedom.

20 posted on 11/12/2003 3:06:42 PM PST by dasboot (Celebrate UNITY!)
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