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Why Are We Back in Vietnam? (Air-Sick Bag Required To Read!!)
The New York Times ^ | Published: October 26, 2003 | FRANK RICH

Posted on 10/27/2003 7:42:20 AM PST by .cnI redruM

In his now legendary interview last month with Brit Hume of Fox News, George W. Bush explained that he doesn't get his news from the news media — not even Fox. "The best way to get the news is from objective sources," the president said, laying down his utopian curriculum for Journalism 101. "And the most objective sources I have are people on my staff who tell me what's happening in the world."

Those sources? Condoleezza Rice and Andrew Card. Mr. Hume, helpfully dispensing with the "We Report" half of his network's slogan, did not ask the obvious follow-up question: What about us poor benighted souls who don't have these crack newscasters at our beck and call? But the answer came soon enough anyway. The White House made Condoleezza Rice's Newshour available to all Americans by dispatching her to Oprah.

"No camera crews have ever been granted this much access to this national security adviser," Oprah told her audience as she greeted her guest. A major scoop was not far behind. Is there anything you can tell us about the president that would surprise us? Oprah asked. Yes, Ms. Rice said, Mr. Bush is a very fast eater. "If you're not careful," she continued, "he'll be on dessert and you're still eating the salad."

And that's the way it was, Oct. 17, 2003.

This is objective journalism as this administration likes it, all right — news you can't use. Until recently, the administration had often gotten what it wanted, especially on television, and not just on afternoon talk shows. From 9/11 through the fall of Saddam, the obsequiousness became so thick that even Terry Moran, the ABC News White House correspondent, said his colleagues looked "like zombies" during the notorious pre-shock-and-awe Bush news conference of March 6, 2003. That was the one that Mr. Bush himself called "scripted." The script included eight different instances in which he implied that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11, all of them left unchallenged by the dozens of reporters at hand.

Six months later, the audience is getting restless. The mission is not accomplished. The casualty list cannot be censored. The White House has been caught telling too many whoppers, the elucidation of which has become a cottage industry laying siege to the best-seller list. Vanity Fair, which once ran triumphalist photos of the administration by Annie Leibovitz, now looks at this White House and sees Teapot Dome. The Washington Post, which killed a week of "Boondocks" comic strips mocking Ms. Rice a few days before her Oprah appearance, relented and ran one anyway last weekend on its letters page, alongside the protests of its readers.

But print, even glossy print, is one thing, TV another. Like it or not, news doesn't register in our culture unless it happens on television. It wasn't until the relatively tardy date of March 9, 1954, when Edward R. Murrow took on Joseph McCarthy on CBS's "See It Now," that the junior senator from Wisconsin hit the skids. Sam Ervin's televised Watergate hearings reached a vast audience that couldn't yet identify the pre-Redford-and-Hoffman Woodward and Bernstein. Voters didn't turn against our Vietnam adventure en masse until it became, in Michael Arlen's undying phrase, the Living Room War.

However spurious any analogy between the two wars themselves may be, you can tell that the administration itself now fears that Iraq is becoming a Vietnam by the way it has started to fear TV news. When an ABC News reporter, Jeffrey Kofman, did the most stinging major network report on unhappiness among American troops last summer, Matt Drudge announced on his Web site that Mr. Kofman was gay and, more scandalously, a Canadian — information he said had been provided to him by a White House staffer. This month, as bad news from Iraq proliferated, Mr. Bush pulled the old Nixon stunt of trying to "go over the heads of the filter and speak directly to the people" about the light at the end of the tunnel. In this case, "the people" meant the anchors of regional TV companies like Tribune Broadcasting, Belo and Hearst-Argyle.

Last Sunday, after those eight-minute-long regional Bush interviews were broadcast, Dana Milbank, The Washington Post's White House reporter, said on CNN's "Reliable Sources" that the local anchors "were asking tougher questions than we were." I want to believe that Mr. Milbank was just being polite, because if he's right, the bar for covering this White House has fallen below sea level. The local anchors rarely followed up any more than Brit Hume did. They produced less news than Oprah. Will countries like France, Russia and Germany provide troops for Iraq? one of them asked Mr. Bush. "You need to ask them," was the reply.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agghhhh; barf; handwringers; mulph; ralph; retch; spew
Why is he back in Vietnam? Two possibilities.

1) Too much LDS back in his misspent youth. 2) Recent gestures on the part of VN to include, reduced harassment of CHristians, the return of US Servicemember remains, easing travel restrictions and the donation of 1/2 a million tons of rice to Iraq has led the US to improve relations with a former enemy.

1 posted on 10/27/2003 7:42:21 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
Thats not the whole column. there is a second page with this goofy ending "In-bed embeds are yesterday's news. It's only a matter of time before more dissenting troops talk to a reporter with a camera — and in TV news, time moves faster now, via satellite phones, than it did in the era when a network report had to wait for the processing of film or the shipping of video. At the tender age of six months, the war in Iraq is not remotely a Vietnam. But from the way the administration tries to manage the news against all reality, even that irrevocable reality encased in flag-draped coffins, you can only wonder if it might yet persuade the audience at home that we're mired in another Tet after all. " http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/26/arts/26RICH.html?pagewanted=2&th
2 posted on 10/27/2003 7:48:23 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: .cnI redruM
The thing I don't get is that ever since the last Democratic president was convicted of lying the only thing you can seem to get a democrat to say is that the current Republican president is lying too. They can't provide any evidence of it, but they keep saying it as if they believe that saying it alone was the only thing that made it true with the last president.

I get the impression that they believe that there is no difference between substance and spin. Or at least that they would like us all to believe that. But in strictly technical terms I wouldn't be at all surprised if such willful delusion could be described as mental illness on the part of the left.

And why this war is Vietnam and the last 2 weren't is just another example of intentionally irrational thought.

3 posted on 10/27/2003 7:51:16 AM PST by tcostell
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To: .cnI redruM
Six months later, the audience is getting restless. The mission is not accomplished. The casualty list cannot be censored.

So lets examine Mr. Rich's idea of how wars should be fought.

1. They're always over in less than six months.

2. Exactly what you are going to do and how you are going to do it is perfectly obvious to everybody.

3. Nobody gets killed. (At least not on your side.)

4 posted on 10/27/2003 7:52:06 AM PST by Restorer (Never let schooling interfere with your education.)
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I am starting to feel bad for the Left. I mean it. The slow constant tug they have had on America since the late 40s (when they dug their feet in and starting really pulling) is slowing. The rope isn't about to break, the Right is simply remembering that they are in a tug-O-war and have begun to pull back.

The Left's sound bites are pathetic. They have no rudder, no compass, no oar. They are adrift in a sea of hopelessness. They have no point anymore. Communism failed. All they can do is watch as we dismantle their idiotic failures in Education, Healthcare and Entertainment.

It has to hurt them to know that acedemia, intelligensia and LIberal are all bad words now.
5 posted on 10/27/2003 7:52:50 AM PST by forktail
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To: .cnI redruM
Mr. Bush pulled the old Nixon stunt of trying to "go over the heads of the filter and speak directly to the people"

That is a rascally stunt, not talking to the major media outlets. The nerve!

6 posted on 10/27/2003 7:52:52 AM PST by Huck
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To: .cnI redruM
Already posted here.
7 posted on 10/27/2003 7:53:10 AM PST by TomServo ("Steve's dead now. From here on, Steve's death will be represented by the oboe.")
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To: Restorer
We'd have to declare war against France.
8 posted on 10/27/2003 7:53:13 AM PST by .cnI redruM (The September 11th attacks were clearly Clinton's most consequential legacy. - Rich Lowry)
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To: .cnI redruM
I aint got time to read this whole thing cause I`m going to work, but I`m assuming that since it`s the NYTimes and the mention of Vietnam, that they are comparing Iraq to Vietnam. Just two things; First..Vietnam was a debacle run by democrats that went on for 12 years. A REPUBLICAN named Nixon got us out of that mess, a republican who to this day is STILL blamed for Vietnam any time the word Vietnam is mention by liberals. Never will you hear the words Kennedy or Johnson cross the lips of Hanoi Jane Fonda when she screams out of that commie mouth of hers. Nixon, a Republican who brought the North to the table by bombing the crap out of them, but he had to do so in secret because of the LIBERALS who STILL didn`t want us to, who STILL wanted our guys to get put through a meat grinder right out of high school. Second... Iraq was how long? 3 months, if that? Something Vietnam probably would have been had Nixon been elected in the first place when it started! And what are we doing now in Iraq? We are making sure ANARCHY doesn`t reign, which I am sure liberals would have no problem endorsing being that they constantly are now screaming for us to get out of there.
9 posted on 10/27/2003 7:59:44 AM PST by metalboy (Liberals-Nuke `em from orbit. It`s the only way to be sure.)
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To: forktail
"All they can do is watch as we dismantle their idiotic failures in Education, Healthcare and Entertainment. "

I haven't noticed much dismantling... can you enlighten me?

10 posted on 10/27/2003 8:03:29 AM PST by Critter (Going back to sleep til the next revolution.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Why Are We Back in Vietnam?

We're not, you lying sack of excrement.

11 posted on 10/27/2003 8:38:21 AM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: tcostell
"I get the impression that they believe that there is no difference between substance and spin"


Spin is no more than abbreviated lying! Spin, by it's nature, is going in circles and that's what "spinners" do with the truth.
12 posted on 10/27/2003 8:58:45 AM PST by poet
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To: tcostell
Were you in Vietnam as an infantryman? Do you know anything About Vietnam other than using it as a symbol? Have you ever put your Life on the Line For Your Country? What say you?
13 posted on 10/27/2003 10:44:33 AM PST by cav68
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To: cav68
I'm sorry, I don't understand. From your tone you seem to want to disagree with me but I don't get your point. Am I misunderstanding something? Thanks.
14 posted on 10/27/2003 11:37:09 AM PST by tcostell
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To: .cnI redruM
Why is he back in Vietnam? Two possibilities.

1) Too much LDS back in his misspent youth...

Hey, leave the Mormons out of this :-)

15 posted on 10/27/2003 1:42:19 PM PST by 91B (Golly it's hot.)
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To: 91B
Hey, Morons are people too. I'll be more sensitive next time.
16 posted on 10/27/2003 1:44:08 PM PST by .cnI redruM (I ain't sayin' nothin', but that ain't right! - Stewart Scott, ESPN.)
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