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Inside right-to-die case, a woman's real life
AP ^ | 10/25/03 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 10/26/2003 2:32:45 PM PST by narses

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - Diane Meyer can recall only one time her best friend, the future Terri Schiavo, really got angry with her, and she remains haunted by that 1981 episode. The recent high school graduates had just seen a television movie about Karen Ann Quinlan, who had been in a coma since collapsing six years earlier and was the subject of a bitter court battle over her parents' decision to take her off a respirator.

Meyer made a cruel joke about Quinlan, which set her friend off.

"She went down my throat about this joke, that it was inappropriate," Meyer said. She remembers her friend wondering how the doctors and lawyers could possibly know what Quinlan was feeling or what she would want.

"Where there's life," Meyer recalled her saying, "there's hope."

By contrast, Schiavo's husband, Michael, and members of his family have said Schiavo told them she would not want to be kept alive artificially if she were incapable of getting better.

She has not been fully conscious since collapsing in 1990 at age 26 from what doctors have said was a potassium imbalance that stopped her heart.

Theresa Marie Schindler had been born Dec. 3, 1963, into a well-to-do family in the Philadelphia suburbs. The oldest of three children, she was always shy and retiring.

Her mother, Mary, says the girl would spend hours in her room, arranging her more than 100 stuffed animals into a private zoo. Always heavy, she hated sports, except horseback riding, which fed her love for animals.

The girl never said anything about her weight, but her mother always sensed it bothered her.

"She cried a lot when she went to get clothes," Mary Schindler said.

He daughter didn't go to school dances, not even her senior prom. Instead, she and her friends would go to the movies. Meyer remembers they went to see "An Officer and a Gentleman" four times in one day.

She was a huge fan of the television show "Starsky and Hutch." Sue Pickwell figures she and Terri Schindler wrote hundreds of letters to co-star Paul Michael Glaser, and "I remember the excitement when they finally wrote back, or their people wrote back."

Father recalls a gullible girl

Terri Schindler was naive and somewhat gullible. When she couldn't get her Christmas tree to stand up straight one year, her father, Bob, told her to take it back to the lot and have them put it in the "tree straightener."

"She called me about an hour later and said, "What did you do to me? They all laughed at me.' "

She has always been very tenderhearted, especially when it came to animals.

She came home crying one night, saying she thought she had run over a rabbit or squirrel. Knowing she would be devastated if she saw the animal the next day, her brother Bobby went out and threw it in the bushes, then assured her he had found nothing.

In the girl's junior year, Mary Schindler took her to a doctor to ask about her weight, which had ballooned to more than 200 pounds on a 5-foot-3 frame. The doctor told her Terri would lose the weight when she was ready.

After graduation from Archbishop Wood Catholic School, she was ready. On a structured diet program, she initially got her weight down to 140 to 150 pounds.

College leads to romance

She enrolled in Bucks County Community College with the goal of working with animals, and there she met Michael Schiavo. Mary Schindler says her daughter went head over heels.

"It was the first guy who ever, ever paid any attention to her," she says.

Meyer says her friend talked about how gorgeous Schiavo was and how he was always telling her she was beautiful. He was the "Officer and a Gentleman" to a chubby girl who had lived vicariously through Danielle Steele romances, Meyer says.

After a little more than a year of dating, the two were married in 1984. Terri Schindler wrote to John Denver, her favorite entertainer, to ask him to sing at her wedding, but he never replied.

By a year later, Terri Schiavo had gained a little of her weight back. Meyer says her friend told her that Michael Schiavo had seen her high school graduation picture and warned her "if she ever got fat like that again he'd divorce her."

"I said, "He's probably kidding,' " Meyer said. "But it was upsetting to her."

Scott Schiavo, Michael's brother, says the Schindlers were the ones who rode Terri about her weight. He says her brother sometimes showed one of the woman's old driver's licenses for a laugh.

Friend airs talk of divorce

In 1986, the couple moved to Florida. Michael Schiavo managed restaurants, and his wife got a clerk's job at an insurance agency.

Jackie Rhodes, who worked and socialized with Terri Schiavo, says Michael Schiavo frequently called his wife at work and left her in tears. She says she and Terri Schiavo had discussed divorcing their husbands and moving in together.

But Scott Schiavo, Michael's brother, says he wasn't aware of any trouble in the marriage.

And when the couple went to his grandmother's funeral, Scott Schiavo says, Terri Schiavo told him she would not want to be put on a respirator, as the grandmother had been.

"Terri turned around and looked right in my eyes, and I can still see her sitting there on my left- hand side," he recalled, repeating testimony he gave in court. " "If I'm gone, just let me go.' "

Bobby Schindler says his sister began talking about leaving Schiavo in 1989. "She said she wished she had the strength or the energy or the know-how to get a divorce," he said.

By this time, her weight had dropped below 120 pounds, and Mary Schindler says she confronted her daughter about it.

The reply: "I eat, Mom. I eat."

Potassium disorders and heart failure have been linked to anorexia, but family members say they do not think Terri Schiavo had a real eating disorder. Doctors never have been able to say with certainty what caused the collapse.

The day before she collapsed, Terri Schiavo had complained to her mother that she was having menstrual problems and that she wasn't satisfied with her doctor. Mary Schindler said they would get together after the weekend and find her a new one.

They never had the opportunity.

Terri Schiavo is 39 now, living in a hospice in Pinellas Park. After working so hard to come out of her shell, she spends most of her days alone in a single room.

She still has her "stuffies," only not as many as before. Just a couple of stuffed dogs and a pair of plush pumpkins her mother hung up for Halloween.

Her family says she laughs when they play John Denver for her and follows them with her eyes. Doctors say those are unconscious responses.

A special person, not a cause

Michael Schiavo, who has since become a registered nurse and has a daughter with his girlfriend, could not be reached to comment. But Scott Schiavo says his brother is merely trying to let Terri Schiavo die with dignity.

"When it sunk into Mike's head, Mike decided to stop being selfish. "I can't bring her back, and I've got to grant her wish,' " he said. "The bottom line is that Mike never wanted this to be a sideshow."

Her family and friends say they love her, too, and think she can get better with therapy. They are just as convinced that she would not want to be let go.

One thing they are sure of. She would not like all this attention and fuss over her. "She's not a cause," Meyer said. "She's a person. A very special person."


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Meyer made a cruel joke about Quinlan, which set her friend off.

"She went down my throat about this joke, that it was inappropriate," Meyer said. She remembers her friend wondering how the doctors and lawyers could possibly know what Quinlan was feeling or what she would want.

"Where there's life," Meyer recalled her saying, "there's hope."


1 posted on 10/26/2003 2:32:46 PM PST by narses
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To: GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
Ping.
2 posted on 10/26/2003 2:33:03 PM PST by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: narses
And when the couple went to his grandmother's funeral, Scott Schiavo says, Terri Schiavo told him she would not want to be put on a respirator, as the grandmother had been.

"Terri turned around and looked right in my eyes, and I can still see her sitting there on my left- hand side," he recalled, repeating testimony he gave in court. " "If I'm gone, just let me go.' "

Terri Schiavo is not on a respirator and she's not 'gone' in that no divices are required for life support from what I understand. What was the other evidence, besides Michael Schiavo's word for it, that she would choose to die in her present situation?

3 posted on 10/26/2003 2:49:03 PM PST by nosofar
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To: narses
"When it sunk into Mike's head, Mike decided to stop being selfish. "I can't bring her back, and I've got to grant her wish,' " he said."

So what he is saying is because he can't bring back the woman he married, he should just kill her off?
So maybe we should start killing people with Multiple Sclerosis, etc, just cuz they can't be brought back to the way they were previously?

Setting a dangerous example this man is.
4 posted on 10/26/2003 2:52:52 PM PST by ecru
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To: narses
This doesn't really sound like someone who would want to be disconnected from life support. Am I correct in thinking that her husband appears to be the only person she allegedly told about this alleged wish to be disconnected? If so, why should anyone take his word for it, when he seems so intent in having her dead?
5 posted on 10/26/2003 2:53:20 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: nosofar; NYer; EternalVigilance
Scott Schiavo says, Terri Schiavo told him she would not want to be put on a respirator, as the grandmother had been.

Worth repeating: Terri is not on a respirator.

6 posted on 10/26/2003 4:04:43 PM PST by Beach_Babe
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To: MizSterious
Am I correct in thinking that her husband appears to be the only person she allegedly told about this alleged wish to be disconnected?

For 10 years, "hubby" said nothing. It wasn't until he retained the services of attorney Felos the he "remembered" that Terri had said she wouldn't want to live 'like that' .. whatever 'that' was.

A gastronomy tube is NOT life support!! Christopher Reeve IS on life support. He is on a respirator round the clock. He is ALSO fed via a gastronomy tube. Where is the clamor to have HIM disconnected?

Man "finds" Wife unconscious.

Man keeps Wife unconscious.

Man gets malpractice money for Wife.

Man wants Wife's money.

Man wants Wife dead so Man can have money.

Man gets Lawyer.

Lawyer is/was Hospice Board Member.

Lawyer promises Man that Wife will die at the Hospice...

7 posted on 10/26/2003 4:24:06 PM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: narses
Title is incorrect....this is a 'fight to life' case!
8 posted on 10/26/2003 5:01:42 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: MizSterious
No, according to sworn affadavits, Her husbands brother and his wife also heard her state something to that effect, once.
That's it.
The entire extent of Terri's "deeply held expressed wishes" on the subject.Husband, brother-in-law, sister-in-law.
9 posted on 10/26/2003 6:15:09 PM PST by sarasmom (Pray for TerriSchiavo. Everything I post is my opinion, unless otherwise stipulated.)
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To: JulieRNR21
I just read in the Tamba bay.com article the following:

"Greer is legally blind and cannot drive. While his condition doesn't hamper his abilities on the bench, colleagues and others said in interviews last week it gives him a perspective in dealing with the rights of the impaired few jurists have."

If he is blind then he could not have seen any of the videos of her. How can he be a judge if he has no ability to "see" the evidence.

10 posted on 10/26/2003 6:20:16 PM PST by blueriver
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To: blueriver
If he is blind then he could not have seen any of the videos of her. How can he be a judge if he has no ability to "see" the evidence.

Absolutely agree....he should not be making decisions on Terri's life when he can't even see those videotapes of her.

11 posted on 10/26/2003 7:05:34 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04....Across America!)
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