Boston Globe, state Rep. O'Flaherty, push to allow illegal aliens to have access to guns

ma-firearms-digest ^ | 10/22/03

[pabianice]

Illegal alien? No problem in Mass.

Don't have any identification? No problem in Mass.! Chelsea DEMOCRAT Rep. Eugene O'Flaherty, is seeking to pass legislation, that will allow illegal aliens to get state identification in Massachusetts. {“A Break for Illegals,” Boston Globe, Oct. 19, 2003)…

“A BREAK FOR ILLEGALS

”Published on October 19, 2003

”THE MASSACHUSETTS Legislature shouldn't allow fear of terrorism to prevent action on a bill that would grant driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants. The bill, sponsored by Representative Eugene L. O'Flaherty, a Chelsea Democrat, needs improvement. But the end result should be a measure that would extend driving privileges to illegal immigrants while also protecting the security interests of the Commonwealth.

O'Flaherty's approach would authorize the Registry of Motor Vehicles…”

Want to buy a gun in Mass. if you are an illegal alien? No problem, just submit false identification that you are John Hancock, and you will get a drivers license, get false papers that said you were trained with firearms, and there you have it, you've got a gun.

Hmmm, as this will happen, this will make all current and future LTC's and FID's worthless, for no one will be able to tell the real from the counterfeit!

Hey, O'Flaherty is from Chelsea, that's where the Criminal History System Board is. Maybe he can get names of gun owners from them to give to illegal aliens? WOW, wouldn't that ruin your day, having to repair a stolen ID…

[pabianice]

But the law-abiding citizen is prevented from owning firearms by his local police chief. What's wrong with this picture?

Contact information:

STATE REPRESENTATIVE EUGENE L. O'FLAHERTY

State House District Office

Room 136 87 Warren Avenue

State House Chelsea, MA 02150 Boston, MA 02133

Telephone: 617-722-2396 617-889-5703

Facsimile: 617-722-2596

E-Mail Address: Rep.GeneOFlaherty@hou.state.ma.us

Party Affiliation - DEMOCRAT

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

Hot Damn! I am gonna renounce my citizenship and go to Boston and buy a machine gun, assault rifle, and maybe a few claymores!

[_Jim]

Boston Globe, state Rep. O'Flaherty, push to allow illegal aliens to have access to guns

I'm going to play devil's advocate for a moment here -

IF carrying a firearm is a God-given right -

Does this right extend only to:

a) Citizens of the US or
b) all inhabitants of the world?

[MindBender26]

Me... and you.... and JR... and most FReepers, not Michael or Eschior.....

:~)

[elbucko]

IF carrying a firearm is a God-given right -

I believe we all should be given a gun at birth.

[_Jim]

I believe we all ought to be given the opportunity to be 'birthed', too ...

[Spok]

The motivation behind making documentation easier to get for illegal aliens is nothing less than a promotion of voter fraud.

[Uncle Hal]

The inmates have taken over the insane asylum.

[556x45]

Hmmmmm...I think the author doesn't get out much. If an illegal wanted a gun why on earth would he go to the trouble and liability this article is suggesting. He'd just purchase it on the black market and be done w/ it.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Blue Scourge]

LOL...I'll race ya to the Tows.....I got dibs on the M-2, would look nice mounted out of my window....

[traditionalist]

this will make all current and future LTC's and FID's

Not that I want illegals to be armed, but LTC's and FID's are already worthless.

[Barnacle]

b) all inhabitants of the world

When they are in their own countries.

If you want to carry one in the United States, become a law abiding Citizen.

Criminal invaders need not apply.

[hsmomx3]

This is a joke, right? The crime rates will go thru the roof. Maybe this is what they want so they can ask for more $$$ to combat crime.

[JustPiper]

This is ridiculous! I can't even have a gun in Chicago!

[JustPiper]

Ping the Mass board

[_Jim]

When they are in their own countries.

If you want to carry one in the United States, become a law abiding Citizen.

Criminal invaders need not apply.

So - the God-given Right to keep and bear arms can, in your mind, be restricted.

ALL who come to these shores without filling out the required 'paper work' (in order to become a citizen) or 'swearing allegiance' (taking the oath for citizenship) are not Criminal invaders as you might be want to imply either ...

In practical terms, you would disallow anyone, whether brown, yellow, red, white or black the right to carry until some point in time when they were able to apply and become a US citizen; couldn't that take years in some cases, during which time these people are denied the God-given right to defend themselves from all manner of 'criminal' harm (we'll leave alone for the time being the argument that says the 2nd Amendment is really meant for "the ability 'defend' against an oppressive goverment")?

What if said persons could demonstrate their good character and honest reasons for coming here - could they *then* be allowed to arm themselves for protection?

[Barnacle]

What are you, a Libertarian or something? I don't have time for clueless quibling. Find someone else to play your silly game.

[Barnacle]

OK, Jim. I was a bit hasty there. Sorry about that.

I’m not against someone protecting themselves. Yes, there should be a provision for people here legally to acquire a gun. But, it should require background checks and be of a limited nature until they are citizens.