To: narses
The Nicene Creed
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
The Apostles' Creed
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy *catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.
Amen.
5 posted on
10/18/2003 8:40:54 PM PDT by
kezekiel
To: kezekiel
Amen.
6 posted on
10/18/2003 8:48:31 PM PDT by
narses
("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
To: kezekiel
Crap....it is Sunday already...yawn...I've been Freepin too long and I'll be late for Mass and my recitation of the Creed in about 6 hours.....bedtime
7 posted on
10/18/2003 9:05:04 PM PDT by
hilaryrhymeswithrich
(Al Franken is a pimple on the butt of liberalism)
To: kezekiel; narses
Creeds have shown themselves to be the constructs of men, and as such, suffer fallibility. Always men have tried to replace a believer's focus on something other than the Bible, always to their detriment, IMHO. As for me and my house, we believe what the Bible tells us, not necessarily what men have since made of it. Corrollary: "The Bible is subject to no man's interpretation."
A couple of mistake, showing these two Creeds' fallibility:
Nicene: eternally begotten of the Father
Jesus was begotten in the earthly sense. Nowhere does the Bible suggest Jesus was begotten in any eternal sense.
Apostles': the Father Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth
John 1 makes clear that all things were made through Jesus, recognizing that Jesus' creation activity is in every sense equal to the Father's activity. As the Nicene Creed would say, "Through [Jesus] all things were made."
HF
8 posted on
10/18/2003 10:13:38 PM PDT by
holden
To: kezekiel
What, no Athanasian Creed? ;)
10 posted on
10/18/2003 10:25:33 PM PDT by
loftyheights
(Lutheran Loft)
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