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No one 'shivved' Hillary: She lost because America was over her
The Hill ^ | October 17, 2017 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 10/17/2017 12:33:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Perhaps it was her orange pantsuit that so many lampooned or Trump’s constant mantra of “lock her up,” but Hillary Clinton appears to be auditioning for the new season of “Orange Is The New Black.” Clinton recently complained that former FBI director James Comey “did shiv me, yeah.” The shiv in this case was the letter on the reopening of its investigation into Clinton’s emails that Comey sent to Congress 11 days before the presidential election last year, a letter that she blames for costing her the win. Clinton’s reliance on the Comey letter is dubious at best.

Ironically, it was Comey’s earlier press conference closing the Clinton probe that has raised the greatest ethical issues. In comparison to her other self-inflicted wounds, the October letter was a shiv short of a viable excuse for Clinton’s defeat. Clinton’s gritty reference of being shanked on the political prison yard is only the latest addition to a long list of causes other than herself for a disastrous defeat.

Many believe that Clinton was the worst possible candidate and perhaps the only major figure that could have lost to Trump. In an election that was expected to be the most anti-establishment in history, Democratic leaders engineered the nomination for the ultimate establishment figure and a politician with record negative polling, even before the email scandal.

Clinton then magnified those problems with what many voters viewed as a thoroughly unauthentic demeanor and tendency toward evasion. On issues ranging from her still undisclosed Wall Street speeches to her past legal controversies to her email scandal, Clinton continually changed her rationales and deflected responsibility. After the election, Clinton alternatively blamed sexism, racism, self-hating women, domineering boyfriends, Russian hackers, Bernie Sanders, and of course, James Comey.

From a legal perspective, it was fascinating to see Clinton select the October letter as opposed to the press conference in July 2016. The focus of most of the criticism of Comey has been this press conference, where he cleared Clinton after a one-year investigation into their email scandal while also criticizing Clinton’s handling of sensitive and classified information.

Comey noted that the actions of Clinton and her staff were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information” and that the emails did include classified information, including “top secret” information. He declared that “there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,” but he did not view the case as worthy of prosecution. He further acknowledged that his press conference was irregular, but “in this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.”

Comey’s clearing of Clinton was used by her campaign to argue that the matter was closed not just legally but politically. However, others remained deeply disturbed by the press conference. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein cited the press conference in his letter calling for Trump to fire Comey. Rosenstein said that Comey’s references to Clinton were “derogatory” and “a textbook example of what federal prosecutors and agents are taught not to do.”

In comparison, Comey’s letter on Oct. 28, 2016 was far less problematic. Congress was actively investigating the email scandal and has coordinated congressional investigations with the Justice Department. Congress asked Comey (and he had agreed) to let the committees know if the status of the investigation changed. Moreover, Comey had previously testified that the investigation was closed. Accordingly, he wrote to inform Congress of the status change while stating that there has been no determination on the significance of the new information or whether it would change the prior conclusions. It did not. On Nov. 6, 2016, the FBI declared that the new information did not alter its earlier conclusions in closing the investigation.

It is important to note that, if the October information was a “shiv,” it was a shiv that Clinton and her staff effectively made themselves. The October letter was triggered by undisclosed files that were found on the computer of Anthony Weiner, the husband of close Clinton aide Huma Abedin and was under investigation as a sex offender. The late discovery was the byproduct to the reckless handling of the emails and the failure of the Clinton team to collect and turn over such evidence. While professing cooperation with federal authorities, Clinton and her staff were slow to appear for interviews and turning over evidence.

They refused to be interviewed by State Department investigators trying to determine if there was a national security breach. They then delayed handing over key computers and information until they were given immunity deals from the FBI. Had the Clintons and their staff been truly transparent and cooperative from the outset, all of this information would have been known to the FBI and the matter likely put to rest before the July press conference. Instead, in a signature Clinton strategy, they were too clever by half.

They ended up prolonging the scandal through changing accounts and withholding information. In my view, Comey would have been better to hold back from sending that letter given the close election date. However, it is really the July press conference that is the focus of those looking at Comey’s possible misconduct as director. There likely would have been little need for the October letter if Comey had not held the earlier press conference and made his ill-advised public statements.

In the end, Comey both helped and hurt Clinton. The letter was unlikely a serious game changer in the election. The problem is that the polls show that many voters were put off by Clinton herself and not her emails. Describing Comey’s status letter as a “shiv” does little to improve Clinton’s position. All of the colorful rhetoric in the world will not retroactively create a plausible reason for Clinton losing the election, other than herself. Worse yet, most voters have long lost interest in the past or current problems facing Clinton. As explained by Red in “Orange Is The New Black,” “All problems are boring until they’re your own.”

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Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016; blamegame; hillary; hillary2016; hillaryirrelevant; hillarylost; trump; turley
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1 posted on 10/17/2017 12:33:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Hilsabob is so last century.


2 posted on 10/17/2017 12:35:52 PM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, Hillary? Then you should demand he return whatever you paid him to help secure the Uranium One deal.


3 posted on 10/17/2017 12:36:17 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Sounds like Hellerry be boning up on her prison lingo.


4 posted on 10/17/2017 12:37:36 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shaped like a beer can: Short and squatty . . . all butt and no body . . . I particularly loved her prison jammy orange jump suit.

She’s like a rash you can’t reach: just won’t go away, and I hope all to hell that she runs in 2020 (if she doesn’t stumble over Foax-ka-hauntas Warren on her way to the podium).


5 posted on 10/17/2017 12:39:19 PM PDT by laweeks
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The media is interpreting shiv to their liking. Comey "stabbed her in the back".

It also implies that she had some idea that it wouldn't happen....that they had discussed the outcome prior to him stepping to the mike. She though she was free and clear.

6 posted on 10/17/2017 12:43:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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As awful as Hillary is, if she had listened to her husband and campaigned a bit more in the midwest the last month of the election instead of over-investing time in Florida and Ohio (she was looking for a “landslide” victory), she would be POTUS today. That close to disaster.


7 posted on 10/17/2017 12:46:38 PM PDT by CatOwner
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Comey let her off the hook.

She must know that.


8 posted on 10/17/2017 12:49:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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She had poor judgement. OTOH, Trump was campaigning in Michigan past midnight.


9 posted on 10/17/2017 12:51:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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10 posted on 10/17/2017 1:03:33 PM PDT by Boogieman
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11 posted on 10/17/2017 1:06:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You can't have totalitarian globalist government if the peasants are armed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clintoon is so Sixties. The “democrats” have moved on to full Stalin. No more pretending to be commies. The real thing is taking over in America thanks to the snowflakes.


12 posted on 10/17/2017 1:13:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Has Sheila JACKSON LEE changed her name yet?)
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"They refused to be interviewed by State Department investigators trying to determine if there was a national security breach. They then delayed handing over key computers and information until they were given immunity deals from the FBI."

That's still being too kind to them. They destroyed the electronic evidence before they handed anything over, and allowed "lawyers" who were actually subjects of the investigation themselves to pick and choose what they wanted to hand over to investigators and what they wanted to illegally conceal.


13 posted on 10/17/2017 1:17:27 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not even the impeached former president, and global horndog BillyJeff would “shivv” that thing.


14 posted on 10/17/2017 1:17:39 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary lost because she can’t hide her disgusting personality.


15 posted on 10/17/2017 1:27:14 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Sacajaweau

I think Comey thought that Hillary had it in the bag. His Oct. 28, 2016 letter was delivered during the period when the media claimed that Hillary had opened up a double digit lead over Trump. Comey was looking past the election when he envisioned Republicans would inevitably find out he didn’t accurately report the situation regarding the investigation into Hillary.


16 posted on 10/17/2017 1:29:30 PM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shivved. She’s practicing the lingo for the big house.


17 posted on 10/17/2017 2:00:42 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s amazing! I’ve seen that video a hundred times before and I never noticed the part where Comey walks up and shivs her in the back. He’s in and out of the frame so fast!


18 posted on 10/17/2017 2:16:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kankles likes using the word “shiv” because she thinks it makes her seem tough as nails, someone who’s tough enough to stare down Putin, Iran, and ISIS: “I said the word ‘shiv’, so I must be really tough and I have street cred!”

........as she floats around the world conducting her crybaby loser book tour, the ultimate self-centered snowflake. Boo hoo, her widdew fewings are hurt because she didn’t get elected president.

LMAO


19 posted on 10/17/2017 2:26:57 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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I always thought the shiv was the tool, and shanked is the action. “He got shanked with that shiv.”


20 posted on 10/17/2017 2:35:24 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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