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In Free-Range Trump, Many See Potential for a Third Party
The New York Times ^ | September 11, 2017 | Jeremy W. Peters

Posted on 09/11/2017 7:09:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Republican Party likes to think of itself as a big tent — not always a harmonious one, but full of all types.

In the minds of many, however, it’s grown too full, and badly needs an excision. Now more than at any point in its modern history, the party has reached such a breaking point that historians, political analysts and Republicans themselves say it faces the possibility of splintering and spawning a third party.

“We haven’t lanced the boil,” Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, said in an interview, evoking the swelling tensions between the anti-establishment agitators like himself, who mostly align with Mr. Trump, and the party’s ruling class in Washington, which seems to grow more mistrustful of the president by the day.

“They all thought they were going to lance the boil the day after the election, when they had the catastrophic Trump defeat,” Mr. Bannon added. “And that’s when all accounts would be settled.”

Instead, Mr. Trump’s election has continued to vex his party. The partnership and cooperation that would ordinarily flow from one-party control in Washington are virtually nonexistent, leaving the president and his party with very few legislative victories so far. And his lack of political loyalty or ideological mooring — he stunned Republicans by striking a short-term fiscal deal with Democrats last week — has left Washington guessing about which new alliance or policy U-turn might come next.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: bannon; gop; republicans; trump

1 posted on 09/11/2017 7:09:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wishful thinking on the Times part. We are going to see the Trumpidization of the GOP.


2 posted on 09/11/2017 7:12:29 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

a third party would be a gift to the Democrats and guarantee a bonafide socialist party.


3 posted on 09/11/2017 7:14:40 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What I’ve been saying for the last few months. Now is the time. When there is enthusiasm for a leader-Trump- and disgust with the existing parties.


4 posted on 09/11/2017 7:14:49 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s the UNIPARTY and there’s something else.


5 posted on 09/11/2017 7:14:50 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: elpadre

If anybody splits it’ll be the Democrats. You have no idea how much the Bernie people hate the Hillary folks and the other way around.


6 posted on 09/11/2017 7:17:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump needs to endorse a suite of MAGA candidates to primary RINOs.


7 posted on 09/11/2017 7:18:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( "If fascism ever comes to America, it will be called liberalism." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Amen. We can’t change the GOPe, but we can sure replace them. And it needs to be done before the Trumpistas in place get sucked into the elitist mindset/lifestyle.


8 posted on 09/11/2017 7:26:18 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: All

The Rats have near lock on 47% of the vote in a Presidential election. I hate the GOPe but a third party gaurentees another Rat POTUS I think. The only way out of this is to Primary these bastards starting with Stange in Al in a couple of weeks.


9 posted on 09/11/2017 7:28:15 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The globalist Free Traitors™ need to leave the Republican Party and form the own party, the Internationalist Party.


10 posted on 09/11/2017 7:29:28 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Third party is going to be a leftist break-off from the Dems.

Their fundraising is anemic.
They have no youth.
Their base is way to the left.


11 posted on 09/11/2017 7:30:48 PM PDT by struggle (The)
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To: arrogantsob

We need new Republicans.

The ones we have represent illegal aliens and their employers, not the citizens and the rule of law.

Alexander, Corker, Flake, Graham, Hatch, Heller, Hoeven, Murkowsky, McCain, Rubio, Gardner, Burr, Tillis, Portman, McConnell, Thune, Cornyn, Cochran, Isackson, Blunt, Johnson, Toomey, Capito, Rounds, Fischer, Collins, Wicker, Sasse, Ernst, Young, Boozman and Shelby are all undocumented Democrats in R jerseys


12 posted on 09/11/2017 7:34:00 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The first sentence is true.

The others just hyperbole and rhetoric.


13 posted on 09/11/2017 7:35:36 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

I am in complete agreement... The NY Slimes are hoping for a third party so that they can ensure a potential Democrat victory. But as the saying goes... ‘Be careful what you wish for’.

The more likely of the two political standards headed for division is the Democrat party.... Many Democrats are in fact conservative in nature. Bill and Hillary are probably the best examples. They were elected as left of centre liberals and ended up as moderate conservatives... As liberal as they are, they are far more conservative than most Democrats and Bernie and his alt-left wingers were just as responsible for Hillary’s demise as Hillary herself.


14 posted on 09/11/2017 7:36:26 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: arrogantsob

The first ten names all voted for amnesty.
They are not on the side of the citizens and the rule of law.
More would have voted for it, but their votes weren’t needed.


15 posted on 09/11/2017 7:37:43 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Most of the people who voted Republican in 2010, 2014, and 2016 are quite unified in their distrust of the Demorat party I think and the demorat party has been kind enough to remind those voters of that every day that has passed since Trump won.
16 posted on 09/11/2017 7:38:51 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Instead of that, he endorses Luther Strange.


17 posted on 09/11/2017 8:51:43 PM PDT by TBP (President Trump needs to reopen the criminal investigation of the IRS as soon as possible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, we’re working to form a SECOND party with a coalition of conservatives and nationalists (all ethnicities, “races,” and colors welcome).

Then we plan to execute the murdering, raping, thieving, uni-party tyrants leading the global socialist movement, after they are tried by military tribunals for treason and crimes against humanity.


18 posted on 09/11/2017 10:30:40 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: arrogantsob

Trumpidization?

Trumpideedoodah, trumpideeday.

Lol!


19 posted on 09/11/2017 10:40:00 PM PDT by Vision Thing (You see the depths of our hearts, and You love us the same...)
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To: elpadre

Both major parties are a Uniparty controlled by big corporations and big banks that are liberal on social issues and liberal on moving people across borders.

Why do guys like Roy Moore end up losing their job twice as Chief Justice in Alabama?

Because of the power of big business. Governor Bentley wouldn’t back up Moore on gay marriage in AL saying he feared for the ability of Alabama residents to have jobs.


20 posted on 09/11/2017 11:09:10 PM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business, Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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