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Where did white voters back Hillary Clinton?
The Washington Examiner ^ | July 18, 2017 | Michael Barone

Posted on 07/19/2017 12:07:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Where did whites vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump? Not all that many places, if you take a look at this map from the Amazing Maps twitter account (h/t Patrick Ruffini's Twitter feed).

When you look more closely, however, you will see that this geographically dispersed group of counties includes lots of heavily populated places, from New York City through Chicago's Cook County to Los Angeles County. According to the exit poll, whites voted 58 to 37 percent for Trump over Clinton; there's no indication who drew the map, or on the basis of what data, but from my own examination of the election returns he or she seems to have gotten the results pretty close to right.

Areas of Democratic strength among white voters form a kind of archipelago, with many geographically small and just a few geographically large islands in the vast sea of counties where white voters preferred Trump to Clinton. In what kinds of areas did Clinton carry white voters?

Central cities with heavy gentrification. New York, Washington, Chicago, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle. But Philadelphia and Pittsburgh too, and Richmond, Va., both Minneapolis and St. Paul, and even Milwaukee. New Orleans and St. Louis have limited gentrification but arguably also fall into this category.

New England. Virtually all of New England, except modest-income, ethnic, not heavily college graduate parts of Connecticut, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire, plus northern Maine. New England has a low percentage of non-whites but each state was carried (though New Hampshire by less than 1 percent) by Clinton. Similarly New England's West Coast doppelgangers, metro Seattle and metro Portland.

University towns. Ithaca, N.Y.; Charlottesville, Va.; Durham and Chapel Hill, N.C.; Athens, Ga., and Athens, Ohio; Bloomington, Ind.; Ann Arbor, Kalamazoo, and Marquette, Mich.; Champaign and Urbana, Ill.; Eau Claire, Wisc.; Iowa City and Ames, Iowa; Yankton S.D.; Missoula, Mont.; Lawrence, Kan.; Eugene, Ore.; and Boulder Colo.

State capitals which are also university towns. Albany, N.Y.; Columbus, Ohio; Lansing, Mich.; Madison, Wisc.; Trenton (and next-door Princeton), N.J.; Gainesville, Fla.; Austin, Texas (the only one of the Lone Star State's 254 counties on the list).

Places with large Jewish populations. Broward County, Fla. (Fort Lauderdale); DeKalb County. Ga. (close-in eastern suburbs of Atlanta); Lake County, Ill. (north shore suburbs of Chicago). Jewish voters in the eastern Cleveland suburbs probably account for the apparent white Clinton plurality in Cuyahoga County, Ohio. In contrast, Jewish voters in metro Detroit live mainly in suburban Oakland County, so in neither Oakland nor in Detroit's Wayne County did Clinton carry white voters.

Ski resort and mountain/ocean coast nirvanas. The ski country in Colorado, Wyoming (Jackson Hole), Idaho (Sun Valley). Also the hip territory around Santa Fe and Taos, N.M., the cannabis-growing north coast of California, wine-growing Napa and Sonoma Counties and tiny Alpine County up in the Sierra. Much farther east, Asheville, N.C. and Ulster County (Woodstock), N.Y.

Working class whites. A similar map for just about any election from the 1930s to the 1990s (yes, even 1972) would show white pluralities for the Democratic candidate in many counties with heavy populations of blue collar workers. The 2016 map shows very little such territory. Just about the only exceptions I see are in northern Minnesota and Wisconsin, around Duluth and the Iron Range.

Of course, it's possible for Democrats to win a presidential election without winning the working class constituencies they once dominated; Hillary Clinton lost the 46 decisive electoral votes of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin by only a smidge. But 37 percent of white voters is a pretty low percentage for a major party, even given its majorities among the various groups lumped together by analysts as non-whites.


TOPICS: Campaign News; State and Local
KEYWORDS: hillary; trump; whites
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1 posted on 07/19/2017 12:07:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The same place other voters did: Cuckoo Land. 😂😂😂
2 posted on 07/19/2017 1:28:05 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When did Florida move their capital? Gainesville, home of THE University of Florida, is NOT the capital! Tallahassee, home to Florida State, is the capital. Or it was the last time I checked.


3 posted on 07/19/2017 2:26:11 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Roughly what one would predict.

4 posted on 07/19/2017 2:33:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pollster1

I would like to see the places where minorities didn’t vote for Hillary, and what that map would look like.


5 posted on 07/19/2017 2:57:43 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: NTHockey

When did Florida move their capital?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =

One of the BETTER questions to see if someone pays ‘attention’ to what one says

Grandpa
How do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky-
“Looieville or Lewisville”?

Majority of time the one being asked will say whatever he/she/it thinks it is..

While Grandpa smiles, rolls his eyes and says, ‘try Frankfort’....


6 posted on 07/19/2017 3:26:30 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Thinking is the hardest work there is-probably why so few people engage in it. H. Ford")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Home ownership vs. apartment dwellers and townhouse folk. If you got skin in the game and have put down roots, you trend conservative up to around 300K a year.


7 posted on 07/19/2017 3:50:40 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Pollster1

Wow. Check out NYS. Didn’t realize Hillie had lost the county with Buffalo in it. No wonder the ‘Rats are so gung ho about Kamala Harris. They’re desperate.


8 posted on 07/19/2017 4:08:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla

She didn’t get the county with Syracuse, either. Just Tompkins Co, home of The City of Evil (aka Ithaca and Cornell U), and Monroe, which has Rochester and the state’s worst zombie home rate, IIRC.


9 posted on 07/19/2017 4:11:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t worry. Kamala Harris is gonna win back all those white male Obama voters who switched to Trump in the swing states.


10 posted on 07/19/2017 4:19:36 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>>Where did whites vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump? 
 
Wherever...
psy·cho·sis
sīˈkōsəs/
noun
  1. a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.
"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles. 
 
Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups:  those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation;  [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 

[The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTmNWY0ZPfM&t=18m 



11 posted on 07/19/2017 4:25:06 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Pollster1

Yes, it was totally predictable. Didn’t need this map to know where not to move to although it will be an nice visual aide.I wonder if North Korea has this map?

Sorry to see those vast swaths of the old west that voted communist. Indians and college towns I suppose.


12 posted on 07/19/2017 4:28:36 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Deplorables Trump the losers, loathers, looters and lunatics.


13 posted on 07/19/2017 4:35:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Trump won the election for the simple reason that Clinton was/is/and always will be corrupt to the core. Simple as that.

NOW, can’t we just get rid of these stories about the loser and why she lost. It’s history and needs no more analysis. She LOST! Move on................


14 posted on 07/19/2017 5:06:02 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s talk what I’ve been saying on my ‘About’ page for the past 2 years, which is that it’s time for the vast majority of WHITE VOTERS to unify around a single party...as was already done in the South in 2014 (where Republicans won between 75 and 89 percent of the white vote...which was why it was such a clean sweep).

The Dems decided that they could tell the white voters (particularly working class, but others, like myself, also) that they can SHOVE IT, and that EVERY position the Dems are going to take from here on out, that involves competing interests between whites and special interests (meaning gays, minorities, women who live with cats instead of men, etc.)...on every one of those issues, the Dems would side AGAINST WHITE VOTERS - which is exactly what they’re doing.

It was the choice of the DEMOCRATS to move to Identity Politics. If whites hadn’t moved the same way, the white vote would have been split down the middle, and we would have been DESTROYED as a political force - and that nearly happened, and the NeverTrumpers nearly pulled that off.

So, to other whites on this forum, don’t feel guilty about identity politics, we did not start it, but we do have THE RIGHT to preserve this country as the same place we grew up in, and if that takes becoming a special interest ourselves, meaning voting Republican (for a Republican Party that we control), then SO BE IT.


15 posted on 07/19/2017 5:09:46 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, a lot of them were dead so we’ll never know.


16 posted on 07/19/2017 5:27:22 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The map fits with what I keep preaching about the importance to this republic of institutions like the electoral college.

As the map demonstrates so well. a nation is not merely a count of numbers of people, and merely counties numbers of people alone is a stand in for representing the nation.

A nation is first of all places, yes places where people live, but places first off. They have an importance, a history, a “local culture”, a lifestyle, forms of industry & agriculture, and other attributes. A nation is first a collection of all those places. To summarize “the nation” as merely where “most of the people” are found, and counted, is a grave error. Doing so pits but a few areas as being vastly more important than MOST of the areas of “the nation”.

If you look at any county by county election map going back many decades, you will see that the winner, whether obtaining a minority or a plurality, captured majorities in a majority of counties in the nation - and thus represented clearly MORE OF “THE NATION” no matter the “popular vote”.

That is important to a federal republic, and important to what can help it remain a federal republic.


17 posted on 07/19/2017 5:32:55 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Pollster1

Looks like the Democrat’s “Die Whitey!” message didn’t play well with whitey outside college towns, occult strongholds and die-hard communist territory.


18 posted on 07/19/2017 5:43:30 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whites in cities voted for Hillary!.
Which strengthens my suspicion that urbanization causes serious mental illness.


19 posted on 07/19/2017 5:49:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: neverevergiveup
The reason that he won. I would love to see a lower class
GOP alliance against the professional middle class.
20 posted on 07/19/2017 6:07:05 AM PDT by cowboyusa
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