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Here's a reality check: this Trump Jr storm will not lead to impeachment
The Manchester Guardian ^ | July 14, 2017 | Trevor Timm

Posted on 07/16/2017 12:08:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Republicans make excuses for Trump’s behavior, but continue to back him. All this anti-Trump energy would be better spent organizing for the coming election

The latest New York Times blockbuster revealing the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr, knowingly accepting a meeting in 2016 with a Russian lawyer in the hope of getting damaging information on Hillary Clinton is making waves across Washington DC. But if people think that this latest story is definitely going to lead to criminal charges against Trump Jr, or force the president from office, it’s time for a reality check.

The journalism displayed by the Times and the Washington Post pushing the Trump-Russia story forward has unquestionably been laudable, but the real question is where does this leave the Trump administration.

While pro-impeachment advocates scream “treason!” on Twitter every time a new story is published, the truth is much more complicated. Some legal experts wonder whether the Trump clan actually did break any laws in their interactions with Russian nationals, even if their behavior pre-election was incredibly shady, unethical and nefarious.

Look no further than Susan Hennessey and Benjamin Wittes, two prominent national security figures and Trump critics, who explained in Foreign Policy last week that “collusion”, in and of itself may not be a criminal problem for Trump so much as a political one. (Hennessy and Witte’s article came before the latest Trump Jr story, but there’s also reason to be skeptical about assertions that Trump Jr broke the law by taking a meeting with the Russian lawyer as well.)

The Robert Mueller special counsel investigation into Trump and Russia could take years to complete. And it probably won’t directly lead to Trump himself being indicted. Mueller is likely to submit his findings on Trump himself to Congress for action rather than bringing an indictment.....

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; State and Local; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: 2018; democrats; impeachment; trump; trump2020

1 posted on 07/16/2017 12:08:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’re got North Korea with nuclear weapons it appears, and an ICBM that reached an altitude in excess of 1,700 miles (though it land only about 400 miles away according to what I saw) and the idiot left are still following their insurgent messiahs in trying to destroy the Presidency.

President Trump is working FOR America, pResident Obama was working to DESTROY America (just like his followers).

SMH


2 posted on 07/16/2017 12:11:27 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The goal of Russia would be to weaken Trump as he was far more unpredictable than Hillary. Have him focus on internal U.S. politics instead of worrying about Russia’s plans. Obama/Hillary gave Putin free reign over Eastern Europe and didn’t life a finger to stop him.

So the Dem party is fulfilling Russia’s goals without Russia having to lift a finger.


3 posted on 07/16/2017 12:15:13 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: SaveFerris

oops s/b

“though it landed”


4 posted on 07/16/2017 12:16:20 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL! What Donals Trump Jr. did was criminal!!

But what the Democrats and McCain did with the "Golden Shower" Memo is OK.

I see the difference! /sarc

5 posted on 07/16/2017 12:18:33 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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cracks me up..impeachment over a crime that doesn’t even exist...boy, Gary Bettman has all those Russians over here in the NHL playing hockey...all spies i tell you!!!...whole thing is just absurd. Funny thing is, the libs actually believe this stuff...they are fund raising like crazy off this...dumb asses i swear


6 posted on 07/16/2017 12:23:05 AM PDT by basalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Big fat juicy nothing bacon double cheese burger.
7 posted on 07/16/2017 12:31:44 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since the New York Times and the Washington Post are both for-profit political corporations, shouldn’t their journalists be charged with criminal collusion because they have actively sought, and reported on, leaked details of this story?


8 posted on 07/16/2017 12:46:30 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Cowboy Bob
LOL! What Donals Trump Jr. did was criminal!! But what the Democrats and McCain did with the "Golden Shower" Memo is OK.

Although meeting with someone for opposition research is not criminal, if it were what Hillary and the DNC did was worse. Trump met with someone, no info passed. DNC met with Ukraine officials, on Ukrainian territory, got info from them and used it against the Trump campaign. DNC officials - including Hillary and Podesta were involved. Though not a peep from the MSM on this.

9 posted on 07/16/2017 2:41:05 AM PDT by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone with an ounce of decency accompanied by a brain which can think well enough to look for truth can see through all of this. It is an attempted coup being ushered in by a media so besotted by a passion for securing a dictatorship in America with them being an important part of it that they do not care how they get there. Also, I believe the hatred for the Christian community by the now very powerful LGBTQ organizations spearheaded by lots of people in the top levels of our institutions, including the media are behind so much of this that it would boggle our minds to know the numbers involved. It is likely that the current situation will result in some kind of crisis which will result either in killing off America or renewing her traditional values so that she can recover and survive. I fear that millions are going to die in whatever is to come. Read “The Fourth Turning, An American Prophesy. (What the cycles of history tell us about America’s next rendezvous with destiny), by William Strauss and Neil Howe. They make a world of sense.


10 posted on 07/16/2017 3:31:11 AM PDT by jazzlite (,)
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To: SaveFerris
President Trump is working FOR America

And the DC swampthings and the elitist masters they represent are not. We knew it is bad, but who knew how bad it is until President Trump started to "drain the swamp"?

11 posted on 07/16/2017 3:41:35 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The media refuses to report anything good that Trump has done the only game the have it give pretend news it makes the losers feel better.


12 posted on 07/16/2017 7:52:52 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: grania

No telling what Billy Jeff put in. But Obama also had 8 years to fill the swamp with this cancer.

Unbelievable.


13 posted on 07/16/2017 2:41:22 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What, exactly, was “ incredibly shady, unethical and nefarious”?

Most of the time I can at least see what the other side is riled up about, but I am completely missing the boat on this one.

Also, are these people entirely blind to the Uranium deal and the many “shady, unethical and nefarious” quid pro quo deals by the Clintons?

My gasket is flabbered.


14 posted on 07/16/2017 3:47:55 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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