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1 posted on 04/18/2017 9:02:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Thank God. ‘Nuff said.


2 posted on 04/18/2017 9:07:12 PM PDT by Fungi
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She ran a terrible campaign because she thought she had the Obama fraud machine vote sewed up. It’s was nice to see Obama’s reverse Midas touch work on this criminal witch though.


3 posted on 04/18/2017 9:08:42 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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Still seems unreal that we dodged that bullet to the brain.


4 posted on 04/18/2017 9:09:35 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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God gets His way regardless of who goes against HIM.


5 posted on 04/18/2017 9:13:18 PM PDT by WVNan
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She tried to phone it in on the way to the coronation.


6 posted on 04/18/2017 9:14:17 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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But.................Russians!


8 posted on 04/18/2017 9:17:36 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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This does sort of close the loop on who pooched the polling data and why it seemed like Trump snuck up on them.

Campaign honcho Robby Mook “was worried about overspending . . . so he declined to use pollsters to track voter preferences in the final three weeks of the campaign.” Mook had learned from his time on the Obama 2012 campaign, Allen and Parnes write, that “old-school polling should be used for testing messages and gauging the sentiments of the electorate and that analytics were just as good for tracking which candidate was ahead and by how much in each state.”

Guess not.

This is political malpractice of the highest order. These are what campaigns refer to as "internal" polls and are, to be sure, very expensive, and the results held closely because they affect campaign strategy, the placement of ads, the movement of the candidate. Unless, of course, they're ignored completely. As the author says, the Republicans had the data and couldn't believe it - that's the analysts' problem, but at least they had the data.

Basic stuff. You reach this state if you place a premium on personal loyalty - yes, a cult - at the expense of actual professional behavior. IF this information is correct, Mook deserves the obloquy he's getting. However, the authors are past Clinton loyalists and he wouldn't be the first underling that Hillary discarded like used toilet paper, so the jury is still very much out.

9 posted on 04/18/2017 9:18:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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And yet people here insist that any Republican but Trump would have lost to her.


11 posted on 04/18/2017 9:22:48 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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She wasn’t a great candidate to begin with and she made a lot mistakes but let’s give at least a little credit where credit is due-the conservatives played a very very good game in 2016. Look at what we overcame. Don’t give all the credit to Hillary and don’t give any credit to Russia. We beat her like a rented mule just exactly like we said we would. We played the best game of our lives IMO.


12 posted on 04/18/2017 9:22:50 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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She and Bill are “Good People, that have Suffered enough”.


13 posted on 04/18/2017 9:24:49 PM PDT by heights
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I actually LOVE the exact way she ran her campaign and the wonderful final result!

14 posted on 04/18/2017 9:26:53 PM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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About a week after Iowa Caucus in 2008....while most reporters were focused on primaries ahead....some journalist went back to Iowa and asked how a no-name Senator like Obama won the Caucus instead of Hillary.

The commentary was interesting. Hillary and her “Team” were in Iowa six months prior. Large contingent....stayed in nice hotels....and had a pretty decent expense account. Locals in Iowa noted that the just didn’t connect to the general public or priorities. The assumption was that you just mentioned Hillary’s name and that was enough on salesmenship.

A Caucus is totally different from a primary, but her loss in Iowa set the pattern for Obama to challenge her and get donor-dollars.

I think the same issues arose in 2016,, where she could not connect to non-urban voters. Her lack of energy (due to whatever health issue she really has) also played a role. And the email server topic dragged on to hold back a fair number of voters. She lost because of herself.


15 posted on 04/18/2017 9:28:32 PM PDT by pepsionice
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Why bother running a campaign for a position that you are entitled to in the first place?


16 posted on 04/18/2017 9:29:54 PM PDT by Jaysin
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Slightly modified my Chapter 2 idea. This is how it would be honestly written.


17 posted on 04/18/2017 9:33:38 PM PDT by doug from upland (Hey, traitor Democrats. I have a tree. I'm sure another FReeper has a rope.)
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They believed their own hype and so did their uniparty media that just parroted it back to them.


18 posted on 04/18/2017 9:39:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I don’t know I think John McCain ran a worse campaign that The PIAPS.

McCain should have beaten The Obamanation of Desolation.


21 posted on 04/18/2017 9:43:42 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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I say she tied with McLame.


28 posted on 04/18/2017 9:58:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Yep, because even with obviously friendly help from the MSM, Hillary Clinton failed to refute the serious charges from Peter Schweizer's book Clinton Cash. (Indeed, the entire private email server scandal closely links to the Clinton Foundation controversy.)
32 posted on 04/18/2017 10:07:53 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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What the talking heads don`t get is that the Hillary team viewed the actual campaign as unimportant. They were confident that the fix was in. All they really needed during the campaign was for the media to continue rolling out fake polls, and reinforcing the idea that she was way ahead. The fraud would take care of the rest. Her actual support was always viewed as irrelevant.

She and her team didn`t count on Trump receiving help from a small group of patriots within the goverment who helped him counter enough of the fraud to prevent her from stealing the election..


33 posted on 04/18/2017 10:08:33 PM PDT by mbrfl
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Hillary spent at least $1.2 billion, compared to Donald Trump's $600 million or so.

It's an absolute miracle that Trump won. Providential, even.

The fact is, Hillary didn't have to run a great campaign. The Establishment and Media (but I repeat myself) did that for her. Collectively, they effectively outspent the Trump campaign 3- or 4- to 1.

Donald Trump beat the entire f-----g slimeball Establishment—Democrat and Republican—and he only spent about one third of the money that they did!

This "Hillary ran the worst Presidential campaign ever" tripe is just another attempt to minimize the magnitude of Donald Trump's incredible achievement. The American People watched. They saw. They know what the Media tried to do. And they're never going back to the way things used to be. The Media—like never before—was exposed as the Enemy of the People.

Good. Let the Democrats think that it was all about Hillary's weak candidacy. This means that policy-wise and attitude-wise, the Democrats are likely to repeat their mistakes once again—class warfare, race-baiting, identity politics, hysterically false accusations of bigotry and fascism—and achieve the same results.

Make no mistake: in his own way, Donald Trump ran an overall great campaign, considering the fact that the entire Establishment tried to tear him down at every opportunity, and also considering the fact that he spoke so bluntly, unlike any modern politician, and that he had things like the "Access Hollywood" tape to overcome, as well as several other gaffes.

Those challenges and setbacks would have destroyed any other candidate, but Donald Trump "fought the good fight" (not the "perfect" fight) and was rewarded for his tireless work and passionate message.

None of the Democrat excuses will ever dim the brilliance of the victory which the American People achieved on November 8, 2016 by electing Donald J. Trump as the 45th President of the United States.

The world will never be the same, and that is a good thing.

Having given all the credit to Donald J. Trump that he deserves, I still declare that I've never in my life been more convinced that the hand of Providence was involved in guiding the affairs of Men and of the USA...

34 posted on 04/18/2017 10:08:41 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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