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Cruz’s pyrrhic victory: He’s looking better and better — but that means disaster for the GOP
Salon ^ | November 9, 2015 | Sean Illing

Posted on 11/09/2015 5:18:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 867V309

“Simple fact is, trump has the celebrity needed to beat bills “wife.” cruz doesn’t.”

I agree.

I like Cruz a lot. He’s a more reliable and principled conservative, but I think Trump would have more appeal for the average guy in the street. He speaks like them, whereas Cruz is more pedantic.

Also I think Trump would get more done (or undone?) as president since he is going to be better able to successfully take on his enemies head on (the media, the RINOs, the establishment of both parties). He has proven that.

On the short end of the deal, he won’t be as reliable, so we’ll be faced with a surprise or two here and there.

I’ll take that for now.


41 posted on 11/09/2015 6:45:02 PM PST by aquila48
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To: napscoordinator

Cruz saw Mr. Smith goes to Washington and like many of us Reaganites still believe the Constitution means what it says and the best for America is still ahead with a statesman in the White House.


42 posted on 11/09/2015 6:56:09 PM PST by Billyv (Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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To: mtrott

I did see that in Minnesota...but I still don’t think Cruz can pull from nearly the same electorate as Trump. On the other hand, Trump is definitely weak with conservatives...so perhaps Cruz for VP, for 4 or 8 years? Still plenty of time for the big job, and (hopefully) with ONLY LEGAL PEOPLE voting, for once, a good chance for him to both explain conservatism and to win.


43 posted on 11/09/2015 7:08:40 PM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: napscoordinator

Why should a politician elected by citizens of Kentucky be the boss of a politician elected by the citizens of Texas? Doesn’t this seniority concept violate equal representation of citizens in government?


44 posted on 11/09/2015 7:17:21 PM PST by PTBAA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Salon.com? Isn’t that where someone found some fossilized brains?


45 posted on 11/09/2015 7:31:43 PM PST by Disambiguator (Cis-American)
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To: Amntn

Ping! Cruz Control!


46 posted on 11/09/2015 8:32:46 PM PST by V K Lee (uTRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Always a good laugh when the leftists show just how much a real conservative sends them into a panic.


47 posted on 11/09/2015 8:34:52 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

not a thing


48 posted on 11/09/2015 8:37:25 PM PST by woofie
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To: BobL

you started out fine but using caps doesn’t somehow make you right. Cruz or lose.


49 posted on 11/09/2015 11:26:17 PM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Win-Win if it hurts the GOP in it’s current form.


50 posted on 11/10/2015 3:22:25 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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51 posted on 11/10/2015 4:01:25 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can tell a Salon post by the title alone.


52 posted on 11/10/2015 4:22:44 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Mariner

I don’t think Carson has it locked up at all. After Trump complained about the Super Pac’s, I started checking to see if Cruz has Super Pac support.

He does, several as a matter of fact. Under the names Keep the Promise, Keep the Promise i, Keep the Promise ii, etc. I learned that David Barton is leading/working with one of these and David Barton brings many social conservatives/evangelical leaders with him. Here is a link to one of them. http://www.keepthepromise1.com/about/


53 posted on 11/10/2015 7:45:03 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: beethovenfan

Salon fears the Cruz


54 posted on 11/10/2015 10:11:12 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: BobL

Cruz beats Clinton head to head, Trump loses to Clinton head to head in the latest polls.

Not sure what you are talking about.

Trump could win as could Cruz, no support for your premise Trump electable in the general Cruz isn’t electable.


55 posted on 11/10/2015 2:21:41 PM PST by Leto
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To: Leto

“Cruz beats Clinton head to head, Trump loses to Clinton head to head in the latest polls...Not sure what you are talking about.”

I was around in 1980 and supported Bush-41 over Reagan, since ALL THE POLLS showed that Reagan, the guy ready to start WW3, could never pull-in Democrat votes. I was wrong.

As to Trump...you shall learn, since Trump WILL BE the Republican nominee.


56 posted on 11/10/2015 2:58:14 PM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Leto
Cruz beats Clinton head to head, Trump loses to Clinton head to head in the latest polls.

Cruz beat Clinton in one national poll.

She beat him in all the other polls. Source

Trump did a little better. Source

57 posted on 11/10/2015 3:05:20 PM PST by x
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To: x

The latest poll is the one showing Cruz ahead, it was registered voters not likely voters.


58 posted on 11/10/2015 5:04:56 PM PST by Leto
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