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Iowa View: Fiorina, Rubio, Christie and Cruz on top after debate
USA Today | September 17, 2015 | Steve Deace, Iowa talk radio host

Posted on 09/17/2015 12:29:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/09/17/fiorina-rubio-christie-cruz-debate-winners-column/32514709/


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1 posted on 09/17/2015 12:29:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Link to article:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/09/17/fiorina-rubio-christie-cruz-debate-winners-column/32514709/


2 posted on 09/17/2015 12:29:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

USA Today is useless garbage.

I’ll check out the Daily Mail to read what really happened.

Fiorina Christie and Rubio are going nowhere.

I thought Carson was “surging”.

If I want to read propaganda I’ll break out Goebbels book on the Power of Propaganda.


3 posted on 09/17/2015 12:35:50 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As a clinical statement ... I agree

I couldn't shake the thought, as I listened to these folks, that I had read SO many times Rubio is ___________ or Fiorina has __________ ... and those echos didn't match what I was seeing and hearing

All in all, an enjoyable debate

And for the first time in MY memory ... it was more a debate than any other 'debate' I had ever seen

ANOTHER surprise because .... this was CNN !

4 posted on 09/17/2015 12:39:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Rome2000
Yeah the media's Carson missile was to take out Trump. that flopped tonight so now the media turns to others like the 3 they listed . The media's next great hope to take out Trump now is Fiorina.
5 posted on 09/17/2015 12:39:42 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade is a Trojan horse for unlimited immigration and Amnesty to the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmm.

On stock up, I agree with Cruz. The others ones I do not.

On stock down I pretty much agree with all of those, except I did like Carson’s answer about his mom.

A man should love his mom. Excellent answer.

But that does not mean I want to vote for Carson.

On stock steady, I’d probably agree that Trump brand remained as it was, but that is really what I expect. He is who he is.

On Huckabee, I’d probably disagree and say something Trump like here. Come on, look at this guy, are we going to vote him in for president? Are we serious? No, we aren’t.


6 posted on 09/17/2015 12:42:44 AM PDT by chris37 (hearltess)
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To: knarf

Can’t get past Carly’s idiotic meme on muslim culture after living through 9/11 in New York. Not a chance.

Rubio is for amnesty. Said it a thousand times. He means it.


7 posted on 09/17/2015 12:49:26 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well, I can’t lose, because if Cruz, Trump or even Walker is the nominee, I can vote with my conscience.

If Carly wins it, I’ll be so drunk for the general elections i wont know what’s going on.

win/win

She DID NOT do a good job, she destroyed two companies. Revenue going up doesn’t matter at all if profits are going down.

Trump destroyed her record excellently and got no applause. I dont get it.


8 posted on 09/17/2015 12:52:14 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was hoping this debate would shake Christie off the willow branch. Isn’t he still at one or two percent in the polls?


9 posted on 09/17/2015 12:53:03 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Democrat_media

Fiorina is an incompetent nasty bitch that won’t shut up and has no manners or decency. Attention whore.

No difference between her and SHRILLARY!

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/packard-fiorina-almost-destroyed-hp-034086

The granddaughter of one of Hewlett-Packard’s founders wrote a letter Monday trashing California GOP Senate candidate Carly Fiorina’s leadership of the company.

Arianna Packard, the granddaughter of HP co-founder David Packard, wrote the letter to the three Republican senators who recently endorsed Fiorina – James Inhofe and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma as well as Jon Kyl of Arizona – over former Rep. Tom Campbell and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore.
Packard has a long feud with Fiorina, publicly criticizing her leadership of the company and pushing for her ouster in 2005. In 2002, Packard teamed with Bill Hewlett – son of co-founder Walter Hewlett – in an attempt to kill Fiorina’s planned merger with Compaq.

“As I’m sure you’ve seen over the past year, voters don’t like Senators who don’t read bills before they vote on them,” Packard wrote in a letter first posted on the conservative blog RedState. “Voters (and donors) also don’t like Senators who get involved in contested primaries, especially without having done their homework. I would respectfully suggest that in the future you conduct more detailed research on candidates before endorsing them.”
Packard then went through each of the reason the senators gave for endorsing Fiorina to rebut their claims, especially that she is a “proven business leader.”
“I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded. So, allow me to disillusion you of a few of your stated reasons for supporting her,” Packard wrote.

“Most business commentators consider Fiorina’s tenure at HP to be a disaster,” Packard continued. “The stock price dropped by 50% only to rally 10% on the announcement of her firing. She fired 28,000 people before she herself was fired, departing with the 21 million dollar golden parachute that is financing her campaign.”

Packard has contributed $2,400 to DeVore’s campaign, according to FEC filings.
Responding, Fiorina spokeswoman Julie Soderlund, said, “It is unfortunate that Ms. Packard very clearly has been given a long list of false information and baseless attacks by Carly’s opponents.”

“It is important that California voters understand the success of Carly’s tenure at HP and her credentials as a fiscal conservative. This is particularly important since her opponents in this race are perennial candidates and career politicians, and have been working overtime to invent falsehoods about Carly in order to get elected to their next job,” Soderlund added. “Carly welcomes an examination of her record. It is a record that will stand the test of scrutiny, particularly against Barbara Boxer’s record of failure for the last 18 years in the Senate.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/packard-fiorina-almost-destroyed-hp-034086#ixzz3lyq1zJMo


10 posted on 09/17/2015 12:54:43 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Rome2000

Steve Deace is not USA Today.

You don’t seem to know much about the world in which you live.


11 posted on 09/17/2015 12:57:55 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: dp0622

Hand-picked GOPe audience, is what I’m told.


12 posted on 09/17/2015 12:58:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; dp0622

There was no tickets for the public. Seating only for the CNN, media and GOP insiders.


13 posted on 09/17/2015 1:02:42 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Arthur McGowan

USA Today publishes garbage

As far as Steve Deace, you’re right, I like 99% of other Americans , have never heard of him.

After reading his nonsense about Fiorina, I do know he is a fool.

Fiorina is an incompetent nasty bitch that won’t shut up and has no manners or decency. Attention whore.

No difference between her and SHRILLARY!

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/packard-fiorina-almost-destroyed-hp-034086

The granddaughter of one of Hewlett-Packard’s founders wrote a letter Monday trashing California GOP Senate candidate

Carly Fiorina’s leadership of the company.

Arianna Packard, the granddaughter of HP co-founder David Packard, wrote the letter to the three Republican senators who

recently endorsed Fiorina – James Inhofe and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma as well as Jon Kyl of Arizona – over former Rep. Tom

Campbell and state Assemblyman Chuck DeVore.
Packard has a long feud with Fiorina, publicly criticizing her leadership of the company and pushing for her ouster in

2005. In 2002, Packard teamed with Bill Hewlett – son of co-founder Walter Hewlett – in an attempt to kill Fiorina’s

planned merger with Compaq.

“As I’m sure you’ve seen over the past year, voters don’t like Senators who don’t read bills before they vote on them,”

Packard wrote in a letter first posted on the conservative blog RedState. “Voters (and donors) also don’t like Senators

who get involved in contested primaries, especially without having done their homework. I would respectfully suggest that

in the future you conduct more detailed research on candidates before endorsing them.”
Packard then went through each of the reason the senators gave for endorsing Fiorina to rebut their claims, especially

that she is a “proven business leader.”
“I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded. So, allow

me to disillusion you of a few of your stated reasons for supporting her,” Packard wrote.

“Most business commentators consider Fiorina’s tenure at HP to be a disaster,” Packard continued. “The stock price dropped

by 50% only to rally 10% on the announcement of her firing. She fired 28,000 people before she herself was fired,

departing with the 21 million dollar golden parachute that is financing her campaign.”

Packard has contributed $2,400 to DeVore’s campaign, according to FEC filings.
Responding, Fiorina spokeswoman Julie Soderlund, said, “It is unfortunate that Ms. Packard very clearly has been given a

long list of false information and baseless attacks by Carly’s opponents.”

“It is important that California voters understand the success of Carly’s tenure at HP and her credentials as a fiscal

conservative. This is particularly important since her opponents in this race are perennial candidates and career

politicians, and have been working overtime to invent falsehoods about Carly in order to get elected to their next job,”

Soderlund added. “Carly welcomes an examination of her record. It is a record that will stand the test of scrutiny,

particularly against Barbara Boxer’s record of failure for the last 18 years in the Senate.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/packard-fiorina-almost-destroyed-hp-034086#ixzz3lyq1zJMo


14 posted on 09/17/2015 1:03:24 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For years here we had Deace afternoon drive time, then ten p.m.; now he's that late slot on FM. Solid Christian--it is his main bearing--hence it is hypocritical of him to laud Fiorina who so praised Islam. I can agree with him on Cruz, who has the principle but not the popularity--and barring a miracle has no shot--hence, a Trump-Cruz ticket as desirable.
15 posted on 09/17/2015 1:04:34 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: Red Steel

There’s a shock.

When’s the conservative debate. And why were there 11 instead of 10? when did that change?


16 posted on 09/17/2015 1:06:17 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: PhilDragoo

You might want to read some recent polls.


17 posted on 09/17/2015 1:07:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: dp0622

Listen ... I know all that ... my comment was a description of what I saw and heard and what I know through reading and paying attention


18 posted on 09/17/2015 1:08:45 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: dp0622

They made room for Fiorino to be number 11 after much complaining from her.


19 posted on 09/17/2015 1:09:48 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Excellent--so you're saying Cruz is rising. Music to my ears. Had not heard that from Rush today.


20 posted on 09/17/2015 1:10:10 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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