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Listen to Rand Paul (Says the Muslim journalist/television host)
The Washington Post ^ | June 4, 2015 | Fareed Zakaria

Posted on 06/05/2015 12:40:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It turns out that Republicans in Washington are united on one issue: their hatred of Rand Paul. John McCain says that he is “the worst possible candidate . . . on the most important issue.” Marco Rubio opines that “he has no idea what he’s talking about.” Lindsey Graham concludes that it would be “devastating” for the party to nominate him. Conservative commentators are even more vicious and ad hominem. The obsession with Paul is striking. In a Post op-ed last summer, then-Texas Gov. Rick Perry mentioned Paul 10 times. I cannot recall an instance in recent decades when so much vitriol has been directed against a leading political figure by his own party.

The attacks are almost entirely focused on Paul’s foreign policy, which is routinely characterized as dangerous and isolationist. In fact, the real problem appears to be that Paul is trying to force Republicans and many Democrats to defend what has become a lazy, smug consensus in favor of an ever-expanding national security state.

I have read Paul’s proposals and speeches on foreign policy. There are some bloopers, odd comments and rhetorical broadsides, but for the most part his views are intellectually serious and well within a tradition of what he (correctly) calls conservative realism. They are also politically courageous....

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: isolationism; jihad; lping; randpaul
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1 posted on 06/05/2015 12:40:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m getting SO TEMPTED to vote for Rand Paul in the primary. Mostly to shake up other Republicans. It’s unnerving that the backstabbers and the “conservatives” are agreeing on more than they disagree on.


2 posted on 06/05/2015 12:43:38 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

You’re not a peacecreep, are you?


3 posted on 06/05/2015 12:49:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: grania

Sure, make it so a conservative won’t win and Paul isn’t one.


4 posted on 06/05/2015 12:49:59 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: grania

If the party bosses want to move people into the Paul camp, just have John McCain say he hates him. McLame is about the most despicable RINO out there.


5 posted on 06/05/2015 12:51:00 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In the Middle East, Paul has called for caution before the next military intervention, suggesting that it is worth learning some lessons from the past decade. U.S. military interventions, he has argued, have destabilized countries and led to perverse consequences. ‘As secular dictators fell in Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and now Syria, radical jihadists exploited the vacuum,’ he has noted.”

You’re right - Rand can’t be trusted. Anyone who urges caution before we get involved in another Middle East war, can’t be trusted.


6 posted on 06/05/2015 12:52:59 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There you go again making idiotic RINO statements, 2DV. When was the last time you actually had an original thought?


7 posted on 06/05/2015 12:53:08 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I cannot recall an instance in recent decades when so much vitriol has been directed against a leading political figure by his own party.

He must not have been listening to the conservatives who opposed John McCain in 2008.

8 posted on 06/05/2015 12:54:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agree 100% with Paul on the Patriot Act......

...and just about zero else. Go Ted!!


9 posted on 06/05/2015 12:55:41 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: grania
WHY? Do you REALLY want to make certain that a REAL Conservative ( Cruz ) doesn't win the nomination?

Are you also going to cut off your nose and vote for the Dem in '16, to "teach the GOP a lesson" as well ?

10 posted on 06/05/2015 12:58:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Paulie
To: Starstruck Yup. Only he wants to adapt, evolve and advance the homo agenda and open borders more than the older democrats were able to do. Sorry, young Turk Rand. Young comrade Obama beat you to it. Forward! 25 posted on 4/6/2014 6:03:30 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

To: SeekAndFind FURP! Rand Paul is randomly unreliable, ie, a liberaltarian squish. 4 posted on 06/26/2013 5:46:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

11 posted on 06/05/2015 1:10:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: grania; Paulie
You would vote for Putin if you could, or Paul if you can.

The Muslims and the Russians both would prefer Paul

Paul wants to SHRINK our military, and their weapons.

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12 posted on 06/05/2015 1:10:22 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: nopardons

I really have trouble with Cruz giving Obama a victory on that secret trade deal and supporting HIB Visas. And Walker loves the Patriot Act as it was. That’s why I said I was disgusted with the so-called conservatives.


13 posted on 06/05/2015 1:15:47 PM PDT by grania
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To: ansel12

Sorry, but you don’t know what you’re talking about. You certainly don’t know who I’d vote for nor would you understand why.

Why don’t you crawl back under the RINO rock you came from?


14 posted on 06/05/2015 1:25:41 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Paulie

Paul IS a rino, that is why he is so thoroughly rejected by freerepublic.

Come out from under your rino rock, and become a conservative.


15 posted on 06/05/2015 1:30:17 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Maybe Paul is a RINO, I don’t know. I never indicated I worked for his campaign or supported him or would even vote for him if given the chance. Same goes for his father for that matter.

If you must know I’m a Cruz supporter. Was almost from the beginning.

But I don’t see why Rand Paul should get this kind of vitriol from the rank-and-file, much less from the party bosses. If Paul does not have what it takes, that will come out in due time. People need to make up their own mind based on the facts, not name calling. Bashing him (and by extension anyone who is willing to give him a fair shake) is wrong, especially without outlining clearly the reasons why.

And I will not offer nor will I remove my support for a candidate simply someone on the other side of the computer throws mud.


16 posted on 06/05/2015 1:47:33 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: ansel12

Can’t we just shrink the part of the weapons and training budget that goes to give weapons and training to people who we will have to fight later?

Surely there is room in the budget to cut that.


17 posted on 06/05/2015 1:49:13 PM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Paulie

“”Maybe Paul is a RINO, I don’t know.””

“”But I don’t see why Rand Paul should get this kind of vitriol from the rank-and-file””

“”Bashing him (and by extension anyone who is willing to give him a fair shake) is wrong, especially without outlining clearly the reasons why.

And I will not offer nor will I remove my support for a candidate simply someone on the other side of the computer throws mud.””


So you don’t know anything about him, and don’t care to find out, but you want us conservatives who do know about him to shut up and not reveal why he is a rino, and if we do, it won’t have any effect on your view of him anyway.

Well, that makes wonderful sense.


18 posted on 06/05/2015 1:52:51 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: WilliamIII

Well said.

There are people here who do not care how many Americans are killed or how much money is spent so that one sect of Islam or another sect of Islam wins (temporarily) in a given part of the Middle East.


19 posted on 06/05/2015 1:53:39 PM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Lorianne

Paul wants to reduce our already too small military, and reduce their weapons and research.

What you just suggested, is about policy, not budgets.


20 posted on 06/05/2015 1:54:40 PM PDT by ansel12
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