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Ben Carson: Let’s slash Big Oil to pay for ethanol
Hot Air ^ | May 10, 2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/10/2015 2:58:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Well this is certainly disappointing. With all of the newly emerging candidates running around the early primary and caucus states talking to anyone who will listen it gets difficult to keep track of them all. But there’s one bit of news out of Iowa from earlier this week which is definitely worth a quick rewind and a better look. Newly announced presidential contender Ben Carson was out talking to the Cornhuskers and the inevitable subjects of ethanol, the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) and subsidies for King Corn came up. The answer from the esteemed neurosurgeon was dismaying even compared to some of the other pandering we’ve seen previously.

He started out on a fairly good note:

Carson, in his first speech in the state as a candidate, was asked by a voter about the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS), the federal mandate that fuel refiners blend a certain volume of ethanol and biodiesel into their gasoline and diesel supplies.

“I don’t particularly like the idea of government subsidies for anything because it interferes with the natural free market,” Carson said, according to The Des Moines Register.

Not bad. Subsidies in general are detrimental. If he’d only stopped there. But sadly, he didn’t.

“Therefore, I would probably be in favor of taking that $4 billion a year we spend on oil subsidies and using that in new fueling stations” for 30 percent ethanol blends, he added.

How much wrong can you package into just one sentence? First of all… thirty percent blends? We’re fighting like mad to hold the line against E-15 as it is. I don’t even need to go back over all the reasons why yet again in this article. But let’s move on to the other half of that pitch.

He’s suggesting cutting subsidies for domestic energy companies in the oil and gas industry. Not for everyone, mind you. Just them. And then reallocating that money away from fossil fuels and into ethanol processing. Just five seconds before that Carson had been claiming that he didn’t want anyone interfering with the free market, but now he’s saying to cherry pick one specific set of companies in the energy sector, remove a subsidy from them, and then redirect it to benefit the ethanol industry? It’s difficult to imagine a more egregious example of the government picking winners and losers, with the winners just happening to be in the first caucus state.

Second, calling out the “subsidies for Big Oil” is the language of the Left, and as usual it’s complete horse hockey. As anyone who follows this topic knows, the subsidies received by oil and gas companies are not specific to them. They are precisely the same as subsidies given to almost anyone who sells anything, including Apple and Microsoft among so many others. In fact, you couldn’t just cancel the subsidies to the fossil fuel segment of the energy industry without rewriting the rules entirely just to exclude them. That’s a left wing, anti-energy talking point and Carson should be embarrassed to be saying it in front of an ostensibly conservative crowd.

If you want to have a discussion about removing all subsidies across the board, then fine. We’re all ears. Carly Fiorina has proposed the same thing and it’s a worthy topic of debate. But when you start talking about just picking the pockets of oil and gas developers and using it to pay for ethanol, you may as well be running for the Democrat nomination. Poor showing, Dr. Carson.


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; cruz; election2016; ethanol; hydrocarbons; iowa; methane; opec; petroleum; taxes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

30% Ben? Push the plunger!!! ... 30% and we’re done ... What a waste of time ... Ben has no idea what he is proposing ... 10% ethanol and look at the price of meat ... 30% ethanol and only a doctor will be able to afford the price of a piece of meat.


21 posted on 05/10/2015 3:15:14 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: Texas Eagle

That’s their plan.


22 posted on 05/10/2015 3:18:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s not. It isn’t good for your car


23 posted on 05/10/2015 3:19:37 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

My car is a diesel.


24 posted on 05/10/2015 3:20:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

your car should be replaced often ... It is good for the economy.


25 posted on 05/10/2015 3:20:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Writer Jazz Shaw about as knowledgeable as Carson. ‘Cornhuskers’ are Nebraskans, Iowans are ‘Hawkeyes’.


26 posted on 05/10/2015 3:20:59 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: no-to-illegals

Remember Dr. Ben said he would consider limiting certain firearms in urban areas...

I don’t remember that part of the Second Amendment.


27 posted on 05/10/2015 3:21:33 PM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we’re coming for you next ... with bio-diesel ... More sugar today in the engine ... more sugar and is mandated! More sugar for you and me ....


28 posted on 05/10/2015 3:22:31 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Walker has long been maligned about flipping on ethanol by a lot of people, including some Cruzers here on FR.

Readers have a right to know the truth on Walkers longstanding ethanol position, one he articulated again in his Iowa speech.

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Walker on ethanol, March 7, 2015

“While I do not support the mandate, I do not have a problem with ethanol...”

“However, it is clear to me that a big government mandate is not the way to support the farmers of this state...”

“Central planning will not help our family farmers, protect our environment, or provide jobs.”

“The free enterprise system must drive innovation to relieve our dependence on foreign oil, not mandates from the state or federal government.”


29 posted on 05/10/2015 3:22:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Is Ted Cruz himself as mean-spirited as the FR 'Click-it or Tick-it' Cruz Contingent?)
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To: Slyfox

30 posted on 05/10/2015 3:27:15 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Ben has no idea what he is proposing ...

Carson is no dummy. I think he knows exactly what he is proposing. He's willing to not only support, but expand a horrible program in exchange for votes.

It might be a smart move politically, But it's repugnant on all other levels. Carson is off my list.

31 posted on 05/10/2015 3:27:42 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ben Carson needs to stick with surgery.


32 posted on 05/10/2015 3:28:37 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

He flip-flopped. Spin it any which way you want to.


33 posted on 05/10/2015 3:28:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Carson 2016: Because intelligent people burn their food supply.


34 posted on 05/10/2015 3:29:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: DavidLSpud
Recommend a minimum of one burka for all American males as preparatory fan before the shite prep with full automatic weaponry known to fit underneath. Just in case ....
35 posted on 05/10/2015 3:29:52 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
It isn’t good for your car

Or your lawn mower engine. Or your boat engine. But it is good for votes in a key primary. Evidently that's all that matters for some (or even most) politicians.

36 posted on 05/10/2015 3:30:23 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Biodiesel is actually hard to find. I have the perfect vehicle to modify to run on treated cooking grease, but I’m a renter, not a homeowner and have nowhere to store the equipment I’d need.


37 posted on 05/10/2015 3:30:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I trust you 2nd ... no additional comment, and SALUTE!
38 posted on 05/10/2015 3:33:04 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... Take This Freepathon Over the Top!!!)
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To: Leaning Right

It’s good for the gasket companies. I had to rebuild two Hollyes because the alcohol ate accelerator pumps. They last 2 years and the alcohol destroys them...then dumps raw fuel on the hot engine.

Safe as hell...


39 posted on 05/10/2015 3:33:05 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: cpdiii
As nicely and respectfully as I have seen it said. Ben, gracefully go away. There are other ways you can use your talent, the presidency is not one.
40 posted on 05/10/2015 3:34:30 PM PDT by Fungi (Job 26:7 : He stretcheth out the north over empty space, And hangeth the earth upon nothing.)
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