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Scott Walker's New Flip-Flop: He Now Supports Auto Bailouts?
Reason's Hit & Run Blog ^ | May 8, 2015 | Nick Gillespie, editor in chief

Posted on 05/08/2015 12:59:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Republican presidential hopeful Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin has already flip-flopped when it comes to immigration.

Once upon a time, he supported the Reaganite position which holds that immigration is a good thing and illegals should be given work permits at least. In 2006, Walker supported the McCain-Kennedy bill that would have granted a path to citizenship (nativists vilify that as amnesty) for illegals. But that was then, reported Politico, and the governor now supports curbs on legal immigration.

Walker has a new apparent flip flop in the works, this one about the auto bailouts. Back in 2012, he was unambiguous in arguing that the government bailouts of GM and Chrysler retarded economic recovery in the industrial Midwest and the country as a whole:

When Republicans nominated as their presidential candidate Mitt Romney, he of the now-infamous "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" column, Walker railed against the bailouts in an interview with MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. Like Romney, Walker argued that the federal government's approach cost too much taxpayer money and, when pressed by Maddow, concluded that the program was not helpful in Wisconsin.

"I'm just pointing out it didn't [work] in Wisconsin and ultimately did in places like Michigan and elsewhere," Walker told Maddow, "but it could have come back more effectively and sooner had they taken the advice of Mitt Romney early on and done a managed bankruptcy instead of spending all those dollars of taxpayers' money that otherwise could have been done more effectively in the private sector early on."

What a difference a few years and greater ambitions make. Speaking at an Oldsmobile museum in Cleveland, Walker now moves his lips like this when asked about the efficacy of the bailouts:

"That's a hypothetical question from the past," the Wisconsin governor and likely Republican presidential candidate replied, according to accounts from multiple local reporters. "I think what we're going to talk about is the future."...

Walker's political team declined to clarify his current position on the bailouts when asked this week by the Northeast Ohio Media Group. So it's hard to say whether Walker has abandoned his past views or if he's only trying to avoid spelling it out for voters who might be disinclined to support him if they know precisely where he stands.

Read more here.

Just what we need, right? A Republican candidate who explicitly devolves from openness to nativism on immigration while zipping up over an apparent flip-flop regarding an illegal bailout of car companies by the government. If the best you can say is that he's "only trying to avoid spelling" out positions to voters who would then "be disinclined to support him if they know precisely where he stands," well, you're not really saying anything nice at all, are you?


TOPICS: Wisconsin; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; amnesty; bailouts; election2016; immigration; scottwalker; wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/08/2015 12:59:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not a Walker fan but I don’t know as I’d call that a flip flop. Maybe a shrug. :-)


2 posted on 05/08/2015 1:03:29 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s Mitt Romney with a dislike of unions. But give it time. He’s GOP. He will evolve on that as well.

Just look at the donors he courts.


3 posted on 05/08/2015 1:04:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well, you’re not really saying anything nice at all, are you?

Almost just like the blog quoted above.


4 posted on 05/08/2015 1:07:24 PM PDT by wita
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To: Norm Lenhart

Cruz supporter here, but these hit pieces on leading conservatives are troubling. We can discuss issues fairly without savaging one another.
Oldplayer


5 posted on 05/08/2015 1:09:07 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: wita; oldplayer

Stay tuned.


6 posted on 05/08/2015 1:16:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: oldplayer

If we discussed the facts of these so called conservatives, then it wouldn’t be a problem. But some people thing hard truths are attacks.

Walker had a longtime position regarding illegals and suddenly went 180 degrees. Do you do that? Do any of us suddenly wake up one day and decide that something we spent years believing is wrong and we embrace it’s polar opposite as he did going from pathways to citizenship to shutting down large swaths of legal immigration?

No, we don’t. People like Mitt do it all the time though and thus it is a completely valid and accurate comparison. A hard truth.


7 posted on 05/08/2015 1:19:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. The earlier move was dumb, and tone-deaf, for anyone with presidential ambitions. Romney’s anti-bailout stand guaranteed his defeat by Obama. Reagan restricted Japanese auto imports and put in place all kinds of trade restrictions to bail out Rust Belt industries. Rust Belt states will elect the next president. Any GOP nominee who goes against their interests won’t be spending the next four years in the White House.


8 posted on 05/08/2015 1:24:14 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Good. The earlier move was dumb, and tone-deaf, for anyone with presidential ambitions.

That's just it Zhang Fei, we're not looking for someone with Ambitions, or who is going to strategize on policy positions, or change to fit his audience like Iowa and the Renewable Fuel Standards, Which Scott was dead-set against originally, and now waffles on. What we are looking for is someone we can trust to lead consistently from a conservative position and as much as I detest Romney, that was one of two positions he took in the his last debacle of a run for POTUS that were actually conservative.

You don't make special rules for anyone because they are "too big to fail".

They needed to go through the Bankruptcy process rather than raping the American tax-payer like they did.

Give me a leader, like Ted Cruz, that is consistent in his positions and consistently a full-spectrum, consitutional conservative.

And while I don't agree with all of his actions/positions, I do agree with him 95+ of the time and that is enough for any committed conservative.
9 posted on 05/08/2015 1:32:55 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

If people can force themselves (force...sure they did) to vote for a guy with a more liberal record than Barry, they can damn well force themselves to vote for Ted Cruz...unless they aren’t the conservatives with the conservative beliefs they claim to be.


10 posted on 05/08/2015 1:38:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SoConPubbie
Give me a leader, like Ted Cruz, that is consistent in his positions and consistently a full-spectrum, consitutional conservative. And while I don't agree with all of his actions/positions, I do agree with him 95+ of the time and that is enough for any committed conservative.

We'll return to this subject on Election Night, but my prediction is that Cruz will not win the nomination. And if he wins the nomination, he will lose the election. He's my favorite candidate of the lot, but I don't think he's got the charisma to win. He comes off as a prosecutor who'd like to put you away, in the same way that Romney came off as the boss who'd like to outsource your job. There's no rhyme or reason to it, but charisma matters, and Ted has negative charisma.

11 posted on 05/08/2015 1:45:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Unless a better conservative emerges that then means President Clinton or Warren because lesser conservatives will not get enough votes to win.

And if that means President Clinton/Warren, so be it.


12 posted on 05/08/2015 1:53:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SoConPubbie

That’s right every other candidate acts or reacts out of feelings about right and wrong, Cruz has a different filter from which he positions himself, that filter is the Constitution; is any given position constitutional, that is his scale from which he believes he will find the proper balance regardless of how you may feel.

By observation it is evident at least to me that other candidates don’t have a thorough understanding of the adequacy of our Constitutional Free Republic.


13 posted on 05/08/2015 1:55:56 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Zhang Fei

I think Cruz is the candidate most likely to defeat Hillary or any other Dem they dig up. I like the strength and forthrightness of his personality. His character is above reproach and his vision for the country is inspirational.

I’m distrustful of Walker at this point. I can’t feature him across the table from the likes of Putin. He comes across as weak and unsure on positions of foreign policy, especially.

It also bothers me that on an issue as important as immigration, he has not been consistent. How could he have stepped on to the national stage unprepared as to his position? I’m not convinced that he has arrived at his final position, because he seems to like to launch trial balloons.


14 posted on 05/08/2015 2:01:04 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Zhang Fei
We'll return to this subject on Election Night, but my prediction is that Cruz will not win the nomination. And if he wins the nomination, he will lose the election. He's my favorite candidate of the lot, but I don't think he's got the charisma to win. He comes off as a prosecutor who'd like to put you away, in the same way that Romney came off as the boss who'd like to outsource your job. There's no rhyme or reason to it, but charisma matters, and Ted has negative charisma.

Sorry, but you have it completely backwards.

Watch the youtube videos of Ted Cruz vs. Scott Walker and then look at the reaction of the crowds.

Almost every single time I've watch Ted give a speech, I, and those in the crowd, have been on their feet with excitement.

Scott Walker simply puts me to sleep.

He drones on and on about himself.

Give me Cruz or Lose!
15 posted on 05/08/2015 2:02:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

There is something the also ran fans need to square up with. Those of us that refuse to accept liberal or RINO republicans hold all the cards. And with the onset of illegals with voting ‘rights’ our hand is yet stronger. They need ‘US’. And we aren’t budging. An inch.

As I said for the last two elections running, the RINO crew can either get onboard our train or we all lose. Hardball. Because we are NOT voting for another psuedocon ever. And if that means liberalism, it will be them that made that reality happen. We have long been clear as to our position. And as history shows, WE have the power to either win or lose it. THEY have the choice in which way they choose to direct it.


16 posted on 05/08/2015 2:09:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Windflier; Finny; BlackElk; KC_Lion; TADSLOS

Ping for great and mighty justice ;)


17 posted on 05/08/2015 2:12:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see any flip-flop on the auto bailouts in this piece.


18 posted on 05/08/2015 3:04:52 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

I stand with Ted


19 posted on 05/08/2015 3:05:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hopefully that Ohio babe gets around to reading this...


20 posted on 05/08/2015 10:12:17 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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