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Clinton vs. Rubio et al
The Coquille Valley Courant ^ | April 22, 2015 | David M. Shribman, executive editor of the Post-Gazette

Posted on 04/23/2015 10:53:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One responded to the Kennedy-era call for a new generation of leaders, and the other renewed that call for a new generation to lead this country in a new direction in a new century. One is an untraditional figure who personifies the slow, traditional path to leadership in American life, and the other is a untraditional political figure who wants to leap ahead in the race for American leadership. One is an old-fashioned liberal, the other a new-era conservative.

In many ways the two candidates who entered the presidential race in recent days define the 2016 political contest -- and, in important ways, define important struggles that have been part of American life for more than two centuries.

Hillary Rodham Clinton and Marco Rubio stand as more than candidates for the White House. They stand as symbols of the pathways to power in American life.

On the surface Clinton is a dramatic departure from the ordinary. A woman, a onetime first lady, she stands as a potentially historic figure. But besides her gender and her status as the spouse of a president, her journey, which includes two successful candidacies for the Senate and four years as secretary of state, has more in common with Henry Clay and Daniel Webster -- think about this before you fill my email in-box with invective -- than with many lesser names who have been elected president.

Perhaps the Clinton skeptics prefer a comparison with Herbert Hoover, probably the only figure in modern history besides Dwight Eisenhower and perhaps George H.W. Bush, with pre-presidential experience commensurate with Clinton's. Either way, she begins her second campaign for the White House with vastly more relevant experience than her husband, who served two terms as Arkansas governor, had when he first ran in 1991.

At the same time, Rubio, who also could make history as the nation's first Hispanic president, conforms to the in-a-hurry pattern that describes all three of the sitting senators -- Warren G. Harding, John F. Kennedy and Barack Obama -- who ascended to the presidency. Indeed, in many ways Rubio, a Republican from Florida, sounds more like Kennedy than does JFK's fellow Democrat, Clinton -- who, in fact, supported Republican Barry Goldwater in the election a year after Kennedy's death. Listen to the Rubio rhetoric:

"While our people and economy are pushing the boundaries of the 21st century, too many of our leaders and their ideas are stuck in the 20th century. We must change the decisions we are making by changing the people who are making them." He might as well have added, "Let's get this country moving again." Or, "The torch has been passed to a new generation."

The two campaigns launched last week began with a whopper (Rubio's opening assertion that his decision to run came after "months of deliberation and prayer about the future of our country," a cringe-worthy remark that strains credulity) and a whimper (Clinton's bizarre video, which might have led you to think you were watching an advertisement for a hospital chain or a life-insurance company). In that regard, Clinton seemed to have channeled Ronald Reagan.

Rubio's campaign enters a crowded field, Clinton's an empty one -- and the difference helps shape the candidates' personae in the early days of the race.

Rubio must distinguish himself from Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, who already have entered the race and who share some of the conservative traits (and tea leaves) he possesses. Of the three, his is the most overtly generational appeal, and he may have the most personal appeal -- though his challenge to his onetime mentor, former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida, wipes away some of that "nice young man" aspect that Kennedy possessed even after three House and two Senate races.

Paul, Cruz and Bush are only three of the contenders Rubio must defeat. Some 18 potential Republican presidential candidates (plus Donald Trump) are listed as speakers at this weekend's First in the Nation Leadership Summit in New Hampshire. Lucky break for Rubio: He's the keynoter.

Clinton has a different challenge entirely. She doesn't need to distinguish herself from anyone, but may need to separate herself from the fin-de-siecle image she possesses. In his announcement remarks, Rubio spoke of the Democratic front-runner as "a leader from yesterday" who would "take us back to yesterday."

Clinton's yesterdays include the two terms of her husband, with all their tumult but also with all their triumph, and the 2008 campaign, which she entered as the clear favorite only to be eclipsed by Barack Obama and to be hindered by a top-heavy staff that bickered as her prospects withered. (The Clinton presidency began almost a quarter-century ago. It is about the same distance from today as the election of Richard M. Nixon was from Clinton's victory over President George H.W. Bush.)

So while Rubio must struggle for air, and airtime, Clinton has no such struggle. Indeed, when she slipped, incognito, into a suburban Toledo Chipotle outlet, she was served perhaps the most famous chicken burrito bowl (with a side of guacamole) in American history.

The Ready-for-Hillary analysis: Sometimes a presidential candidate just wants a burrito and a blackberry Izze soda. The Hillary-hater analysis: She went quietly into a Chipotle for the express purpose of having the world think she went quietly into a Chipotle, a phony gambit to suggest she's just a regular gal on a regular road trip ... to Iowa.

But there's nothing regular about her campaign, nor about the reaction to it. The Republicans' response has been, to resurrect a phrase from Hunter S. Thompson, a combination of fear (she defeats every GOP candidate in head-to-head early polling) and loathing (the Republican National Committee is undertaking a #StopHillary campaign). Rubio has the disadvantage of not having that disadvantage.

Rubio knows there have been a number of first-chance presidential triumphs, some even more improbable than his own (Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter). And Clinton knows that second-chance candidacies can be successful (Nixon and Reagan, though by some counts Reagan's main chance came on his third chance).

But for both candidates, the goal is clear. They must make voting for them seem like making a choice, not taking a chance. This month the campaign, and that challenge, came into focus.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: hillary; rubio; scottwalker; tedcruz
Did he really compare Hillary Clinton to Ronald Reagan, Henry Clay, Herbert Hoover and Daniel Webster? They actually pay this guy to write? President Hoover fed war-ravaged Europe and Russia after World War I. And President Harding was also the Lieutenant Governor of Ohio. President Kennedy was also a Congressman and commander of a small naval craft during World War II. Is he counting Hillary's time in Bosnia as war experience?
1 posted on 04/23/2015 10:53:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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One is an old-fashioned liberal, the other a new-era conservative.

Hillary and Rubio are both big government, pro-Amnesty liberals. Is there a third person, a conservative, under discussion and I missed that candidate's name?

2 posted on 04/23/2015 11:00:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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who’s this al guy :)


3 posted on 04/23/2015 11:02:33 AM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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who’s this al guy

I'm not sure. If they said "Christie et al", I would not be surprised, and I'd feel bad for al. I just have never heard of him. It's not al Gore though, not if they are trying to pass him off as the hidden conservative under discussion.

4 posted on 04/23/2015 11:16:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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two great jokes in one post!! Kudos. the Christie et al one took me a minute!!
5 posted on 04/23/2015 11:19:27 AM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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NEVER VOTING FOR ANY AMNESTY CANDIDATE !

Rubio has betrayed conservatives when he schemed with Schumer against the citizens. Dead to me.


6 posted on 04/23/2015 12:06:31 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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One responded to the Kennedy-era call for a new generation of leaders, and the other renewed that call for a new generation to lead this country in a new direction in a new century. One is an untraditional figure who personifies the slow, traditional path to leadership in American life, and the other is a untraditional political figure who wants to leap ahead in the race for American leadership. One is an old-fashioned liberal, the other a new-era conservative.

And the third one is an editor who just loves the sound of his own voice?

But besides her gender and her status as the spouse of a president, her journey, which includes two successful candidacies for the Senate and four years as secretary of state, has more in common with Henry Clay and Daniel Webster -- think about this before you fill my email in-box with invective -- than with many lesser names who have been elected president.

Clay and Webster were party leaders in the Senate. Hillary was sort of a potted plant during her time there.

Perhaps the Clinton skeptics prefer a comparison with Herbert Hoover, probably the only figure in modern history besides Dwight Eisenhower and perhaps George H.W. Bush, with pre-presidential experience commensurate with Clinton's. Either way, she begins her second campaign for the White House with vastly more relevant experience than her husband, who served two terms as Arkansas governor, had when he first ran in 1991.

I don't get how being a wife counts as political experience, but Eleanor Roosevelt is probably up there. Next time Hillary sees her they will have a chat about it.

If you are looking for somebody who put in a lot of time at State and in the Senate before moving into the White House, there's John Quincy Adams and James Buchanan. Neither was a great success as president.

7 posted on 04/23/2015 1:24:42 PM PDT by x
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