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Scott Walker will be expected to take a stand on ethanol for Iowa push (Cruz won't pander to them)
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | February 2, 2015 | Patrick Marley and Rick Barrett

Posted on 02/02/2015 4:31:53 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Tupelo

Here’s his biography, at the time tho article was written. In short, he does have a lot of executive experience and those that oppose him admit that he’s extremely competent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/who-is-ted-cruz/2012/08/01/gJQAqql8OX_blog.html


21 posted on 02/02/2015 5:29:07 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Tupelo

We elect Politicians on what they promise, not what they have done. Otherwise, we would have a very limited field!


22 posted on 02/02/2015 5:32:13 AM PST by Deagle (gardless of)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

raising corn for ethanol is a waste. Corn should be food for humans, cattle and other livestock.


23 posted on 02/02/2015 5:40:31 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: CPT Clay

I wonder where all the corn we grow would go if ethanol became extinct.


24 posted on 02/02/2015 6:03:49 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Jonty30
While both Walker and Cruz would make excellent conservative candidates, Cruz gets attacked more by the left.
Surely you gest. I guess the left ignored Walker during his two or three elections, two or three recall elections and taking on multiple unions multiple times in Wisconsin.
25 posted on 02/02/2015 6:04:03 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. Walker, do us all a favor and just stay out of the Presidential running; I already had qualms about you, and now that I’ve heard about your thinking ethanol is good eating for vehicles, not people...


26 posted on 02/02/2015 6:34:51 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Editorializing the headline.

Maybe you pro-aborts don’t appreciate it but Walker, Perry have shut down abortion clinics.

Let alone, Ted Cruz’s amnesty bill: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?pagewanted=all&_r=3&;


27 posted on 02/02/2015 6:45:00 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: Patriot777

Then vote for baby-killers.

That must be what people don’t like about Walker, that he like Perry and even Cristy have shut down the abortion industry in their state.


28 posted on 02/02/2015 6:45:54 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: oh8eleven

You are absolutely correct, in fact, the Union and Leftist support is very shady and their dirty tricks are pulled everywhere.

Walker, stared down Unions, closed down abortion clinics.

Cruz, worked as a lawyer I guess.


29 posted on 02/02/2015 6:47:25 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Iowa and their ethanol blackmail have way to much power on electing candidates. When will that ever change?


30 posted on 02/02/2015 6:49:55 AM PST by McGruff (We have met the enemy and they are our own party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Kinda early for a primary brawl. I like both Cruz and Walker. Cruz stands strong on what he believes and has a strong faith, plus his father is a minister. I also like Walker who fought and won in Wisconsin against the most well funded and hateful people next to the homosexual nazis. He is a man of faith and His father was also a minister.

I know the American people don't want amnesty, but I also don't think they want to appear heartless and throw families out who have been here decades and paid taxes and have committed no crimes. Liberals have managed to take God's call to love others and turn it into give me your wallet and everything else I want. They shame publicly anyone who doesn't do it their way and call them child, women, black, homosexual..... haters. I'd like to see the constitution followed, but unfortunately most Americans don't know or care what the constitution says, including many people who call themselves conservatives. I sure hope I'm wrong, but I worry that Cruz's stand on immigration will cause him to lose the primary and we will end up with Bush or Christie or Huckabee.

I'm going to have my favorite and two backups. I'd love to see Ben Carson or Sarah as president but I don't think either can win so I eliminated them. I think a Cruz/Walker or Walker/Cruz ticket could win. I just don't want to see a rino or democrat win.

31 posted on 02/02/2015 6:54:00 AM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article states, then re-states, then re-states another 3-5 times, that Walker HAS NO POSITION on ethanol. But you are arguing that he is all for ethanol. Weird.

I’m all for Ted Cruz, but I don’t see the point in attacking the second best (likely) guy by manufacturing a smear on a position that he hasn’t taken.

Go after Bush. Really.


32 posted on 02/02/2015 7:19:06 AM PST by kidd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even Mitt Romney didn’t pander on ethanol


33 posted on 02/02/2015 7:32:32 AM PST by Homer1
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To: bray
It is time to stop making ethanol from corn. Let’s see which candidate is willing to take on that corruption.

Making ethyl alcohol from corn is a ridiculous waste of food and is nothing less than a government subsidy for agribusiness, an enormous waste of water, which results in a poor excuse for an engine fuel (all petroleum products have an energy content of 18,000 BTU per pound, alcohol has 12,000 BTU per pound). Petroleum products have good film strength and are lubricious which reduces friction on moving parts. Alcohols have poor film strength and tend to increase wear rates on moving parts. Alcohols chemically attack certain commonly used elastomers (gaskets and seals).

When ethyl alcohol is produced by agribusiness they use the same methods that the good old boys down in the deep south use to produce "grandpa's sipping whiskey". They ferment a mash of corn and distill off the resultant alcohol leaving the spent mash that requires disposal. That is ignoring a much more efficient method using a chemical synthesis developed in the 1930's by Shell oil.

Natural gas is a mixture of several gasses (methane, ethane, ethylene, helium, carbon dioxide). Before the NG is pumped into the distribution system it is liquefied and then processed through fractional distalion to separate the mixture into methane which is sold as NG and several other gasses which are used as feedstock for producing various plastics. Shell developed a process using ethylene, steam, and a catalyst to synthesize ethanol in one step. The only impact results from diverting some of the ethylene that would ordinarily be used to produce polyethylene (Most of which winds up in the land fills anyway).

That begs the question do we really want to produce more crappy engine fuel? If we must, we really should use the most efficient method and stop pouring tax dollars into a method that destroys food and unnecessarily drives up food prices.

Regards,
GtG

PS BSME W/ AAS in internal combustion engine design & minor in fuels and lubricants

34 posted on 02/02/2015 8:58:41 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: BeadCounter

I would never, EVER vote for anyone who is in the least bit in favor of abortion.


35 posted on 02/02/2015 10:16:21 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I wonder where all the corn we grow would go if ethanol became extinct.

Maybe into $2.00/lb. ground beef instead of $5.00/lb.

36 posted on 02/02/2015 10:19:01 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It seems Iowans want their goodies like everyone else. Oppose their crony capitalist intentions of ethanol at the GOP peril it seems.


37 posted on 02/02/2015 12:44:12 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Cattlefeed, chickenfeed


38 posted on 02/06/2015 10:52:26 PM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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