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There Is A Brutal Civil War In The GOP, And It Looks Like Karl Rove Will Be The First Casualty
Business Insider ^ | |Nov. 10, 2012 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 11/12/2012 5:10:42 PM PST by Kevmo

Grassroots Republican operatives and Movement conservatives are quickly turning against the GOP Establishment in the wake of the party's expensive defeat this election cycle.

Republicans we spoke to this week voiced a near-universal disgust with the national Republican Party leaders and Washington political class, who are seen as having put their personal financial interest above winning the election.

As this internecine struggle gathers steam, the first target appears to be Karl Rove, the former Bush campaign mastermind who has dictated much of the GOP's strategy over the past decade.

In the wake of the party's 2012 losses, however, Rove and his well-funded American Crossroads super PAC have become a symbol of misguided Establishment strategy, party cronyism, and Beltway bloat. .... The party's perceived betrayal of Akin confirmed what many grassroots conservative activists had long suspected: That the Republican Establishment was willing to throw the base under the bus to serve the interests of deep-pocketed donors. .... In a post leading the conservative site RedState this weekend, the Romney campaign is accused of being a "con job," in which consultants spun "false data as truth in order to paint a rosy picture of a successful campaign as a form of job security." .... And among Republicans, there is a sense that the Establishment is getting what it deserves. In an email to Business Insider, one GOP strategist summed it up:

"A party who won't paint in bold colors, who puts out flawed messengers, who doesn't focus on fundamentals, who pisses off the young and the libertarian, well, that party just got what was coming to it."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/karl-rove-gop-money-civil-war-republicans-2012-11#ixzz2C3muQ2J7

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TOPICS: Issues
KEYWORDS: 2012rncstrategy; americancrossroads; gopcivilwar; karlrove; pac; romney2012
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1 posted on 11/12/2012 5:10:46 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: Kevmo

Rove should be plank walked in blood filled, shark infested water.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 5:12:52 PM PST by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Kevmo

If Rove goes down there is indeed hope for the GOP


3 posted on 11/12/2012 5:12:59 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kevmo

I’ll get Rove a farewell card.


4 posted on 11/12/2012 5:13:35 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Kevmo

There’s gonna be a civil war alright...but in ain’t gonna be in the GOP.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 5:13:58 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Kevmo

The Democratic Party is the about Free Stuff.

The Republican Party is about Liberty, and the responsible use of that Liberty.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 5:14:23 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: All; Kevmo

Karl Rove is a disgrace.

He hates our TEA PARTY so to he// with Rove!


7 posted on 11/12/2012 5:15:18 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Kevmo

Good. Leave room on the wall for more RINO heads...


8 posted on 11/12/2012 5:15:18 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Kevmo
Welcome back ~ you're right on that ~ except the Libertarians need to decide what they want to do within the confines of a larger Conservative movement.

We need a list of all the political pros who worked for "W" McCain Romney and a number of establishment Senators and Representatives.

They need to be prohibited in whatever manner we can do legally ~ no kneecapping, but I certainly can't control everybody.

9 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kevmo
Rove needs to go away but I think this guy needs to vacate ASAP: Photobucket
10 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:04 PM PST by Never on my watch (GALT)
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To: Kevmo

The election was stolen; why were there not Republican lawyers in Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania.

Rove can be blamed for a lot of things, but he didn’t force Akin to be an idiot!!!


11 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:18 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Kevmo

Best news I’ve heard all day!!!


12 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:28 PM PST by avacado
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To: Kevmo

gud


13 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:28 PM PST by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Kevmo
As this internecine struggle gathers steam, the first target appears to be Karl Rove, the former Bush campaign mastermind who has dictated much of the GOP's strategy over the past decade.

Gee, that's too bad. < /s>

14 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:28 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kevmo

GOOD!

Time for CONSERVATIVES to vote for winners who want to save our country not republicans who want to save their own bank accounts at the sake of ours!


15 posted on 11/12/2012 5:17:34 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Never on my watch

Oh yes indeed! I think people need to tease out that story of Boehner’s two affairs. Couldn’t that compromise him? Couldn’t he be blackmailed? We need to know the truth...


16 posted on 11/12/2012 5:19:13 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Rebelbase

Give him a chance - place him on a tightrope and make him walk across the shark tank....the same kind of tightrope he’s had the GOP walking for years with his Dem-lite BS.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 5:21:14 PM PST by relictele
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To: Kevmo

I wanna be there when they pull down his statue.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 5:21:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SatinDoll

At election tie free stuff wins.


19 posted on 11/12/2012 5:21:29 PM PST by gleneagle
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To: Kevmo

Okay so Rove and the establishment republicans are out. So now what happens? Do we all leave the republican party? Do we create another party? Do we pressure “the establishment” to throw out the establishment leaders? Do we.... what? Any hints?


20 posted on 11/12/2012 5:22:23 PM PST by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: Kevmo

We nominated a moderate to appease the party leadership and appeal to the independent voter. That strategy failed. Time to nominate real conservatives. We also need to hit the opposition hard and stop these self-imposed Marquess of Queensberry rules. The leftists lie, cheat, and steal. We must be relentless in our political attacks — mocking them and deriding them at every opportunity. We must wipe that smirk off their faces with the ferocity and effectiveness of our forceful arguments and negative ads.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 5:22:30 PM PST by 3Fingas
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To: SatinDoll

Once. But no longer. Facts on the ground prove that.


22 posted on 11/12/2012 5:23:07 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kevmo

Could not happen to a better bald headed bastard. Let him run elections
In Mexico.


23 posted on 11/12/2012 5:23:15 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Kevmo
I can't stand it when Hannity calls him "the architect."

Hannity, Rush, Malkin, and every other "conservative" voice on the radio should be grossly ashamed of themselves for letting this stinking illegal alien get away with living in our White House without as much as a whimper from ANY OF THEM ABOUT THE ILLEGALITY OF OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP! Every single solitary one of them were either deliberately or cowardly silenced about this filthy foreigner's qualifications for office.

If they and/or their families were forced into silence by the democrats, then we should know how it was done and when it was done.

For five (5) years, Free Republic has done nothing but harp on a continual, day after day, month after month, tirade about the constitutionality of Obama's being in the White House, and the entire Republican Party and ALL of the "conservative media" were shut up like little, itty, bitty lambs.

And now they criticize the conservatives?

24 posted on 11/12/2012 5:24:35 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Snow Eagle

I think if Sarah Palin isn’t going to outright run, she should be asked to be the chairman of the GOP. Then we will have confidence that they listen to the base.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 5:24:44 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll provide the truck and the wench cable.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 5:24:58 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: SatinDoll

“The Republican Party is about Liberty, and the responsible use of that Liberty.”

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Not lately.

Which is why Rove and the other party liberals need to go if the party wants to hold on to conservatives and get back to the principles it has strayed from.


27 posted on 11/12/2012 5:25:53 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Snow Eagle

” Do we create another party?”

Yes.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 5:26:23 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Irenic

I truly hate that moron Bonehead.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 5:26:44 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Snow Eagle

Do we.... what? Any hints?
***We change the primary process. From my home page:

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Here’s how I think primaries should be organized:

My suggestion is basically to hold the first primary in the state that has the highest percentage of GOP votes in the last election, the 2nd primary in the 2nd highest, and so on. 2 primaries a week for 25 weeks, with the last primaries being the suckup-to-the-democrats. And the democrats could easily have their primary schedule the same way, if they wanted.

This way, if a state is 60% republican, there is still incentive for them to get out the vote for 61% republican so they can bump up their state in the primary schedule.

Also: Rotate all the states (even the big ones) through an early schedule so that everyone gets access at some point to the front line.

OR

Let each state bid when they want their primary to take place. The earlier the primary, the fewer the delegates they control according to some logarithmic or steep curve formula.

18 posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:55:08 AM by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962610/posts?page=18#18

Second thing is the order of the primaries should be determined by the percentage of republicans in the last vote. The higher the %pubbie, the sooner the state appears on the primary schedule, with a mix of big & little states and our staunchest republican states get to go FIRST. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=862#862

24 posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 8:52:29 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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30 posted on 11/12/2012 5:28:20 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
the first target appears to be Karl Rove, the former Bush campaign mastermind who has dictated much of the GOP's strategy over the past decade.

Yep dictatorship is the problem. They do not seem to learn that the "hand-picked" candidates are compliant RINOs who the voters will hate and avoid. We need to let the leaders emerge naturally and select the best to be the candidates.

31 posted on 11/12/2012 5:29:02 PM PST by Rapscallion ( OBAMA: You own it now. See if you can govern it.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

The future of the GOP is neither Karl Rove nor Todd Akin. It’s not Lindsay Graham or Richard Mourdock or Sharon Angle.

Its more like Ted Cruz, Ron Johnson, Allen West (he’ll be around regardless of his current race), Tim Scott, Scott Walker, Jim DeMint and others. There are great people who aren’t part of the estabslishment and who are right on the issues, and who are not idiots. Those are who we need.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 5:31:13 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: tennmountainman

me too!!!


33 posted on 11/12/2012 5:31:30 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Kevmo
"It Looks Like Karl Rove Will Be The First Casualty"

Oh, Boo Hoo!

34 posted on 11/12/2012 5:33:10 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Kevmo

FUKR!!


35 posted on 11/12/2012 5:33:57 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Agreed. We need a new Speaker...not Orange Face Lily Liver.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 5:41:35 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Rebelbase

bump


37 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cripplecreek

Just stick a pin in it. It will blow up.


38 posted on 11/12/2012 5:43:10 PM PST by MestaMachine
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To: DLfromthedesert
Photobucket
39 posted on 11/12/2012 5:45:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Lets see if all those people who went on and on about ‘holding Romney’s feet to the fire’ will hold Bohner’s.

Lets also see if they realize that at any point since he took the speakership, Bhoner has had the power to shut Obama down via the power of the purse...but has not. And made excuses for why he has not.

And had a cadre of yes-men called GOP congressmen supporting his refusal to do so.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 5:47:18 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Rebelbase

Yes, he should!!!!

He’s always been on the same team as Bush, Sr., Kissinger, Zero, John Kerry, Clintons-—they are all One Worlders===working the Hegelian Dialectic to force us into their serfdom (pretending we have a “choice”)-—our Constitution has been devastated-—by the Republican Hierarchy even worse than by the Democrats (Patriot Act).

We no longer are a Rule of Law-—we are a rule by democracy and tyranny of judges-—(homosexual “marriage” can NOT exist in ANY STATE in a Nation under God’s Laws and Natural Law. It is the foundation of Rule of Law (Higher Power). Arbitrary laws are UNJUST Laws which are always “null and void” because they go against the Supreme Law of the Land. (John Marshall).

We are ruled by man now—because of judges Bush appointed-”made up laws” which made Rome fall to dictators. It is because it is NOT Justice-—it is tyranny when laws go against Nature and Right Reason. Marxism is about the Big Lie——there is no Right and Wrong—they eliminate God and God’s Laws-—but in the US, we have it in OUR CONSTITUTION and NO amendments took God out YET!!!!!

We need to get rid of judges-—and politicians which don’t obey the Constitution-—which is practically ALL of them.


41 posted on 11/12/2012 5:47:36 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Irenic
I’ll get Rove a farewell card.

I wouldn't waste the dollar.

42 posted on 11/12/2012 5:49:44 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: RoosterRedux

There’s gonna be a civil war alright...but in ain’t gonna be in the GOP.

Agree.

CW-II.

It’s not just an idea anymore.

Remember, libs are concentrated in cities, where all is consumption and none is production.

Bad grammar, I know...but truth it is.


43 posted on 11/12/2012 5:50:32 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

But it would make me ever so happy and thrilled to purchase this for him. :p


44 posted on 11/12/2012 5:51:52 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Kevmo

I agree. We have got to do something first about the primaries. The Democrats crossover in the primaries and select the Republican nominee. Your ideas look good.


45 posted on 11/12/2012 5:52:14 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Da Coyote

What you said!;-)


46 posted on 11/12/2012 5:52:34 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

The Hipsters are big on paper made from human feces...get a card made from that.

(Yes, there IS such a thing.)


47 posted on 11/12/2012 5:53:57 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: ConservativeMind

Come on, that is the best you can post?

How is that being conservative?


48 posted on 11/12/2012 5:55:22 PM PST by ansel12 (Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
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To: Kevmo

Rove’s operation takes a fee or commission for funds raised, and another fee or commission for ads placed.

So whether it is Morris or Rove or another they get paid to spout poll interpretations, raise and spend money on campaigns, win or lose.

Maybe they ought to be made to have more skin in the game.


49 posted on 11/12/2012 5:55:29 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: muawiyah

They need to be prohibited in whatever manner we can do legally ~ no kneecapping, but I certainly can’t control everybody.
***Maybe this woman has started a trend... ;-)

Woman Blames Husband for Obama’s Re-Election, Allegedly Runs Him Over With Her SUV
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958783/posts


50 posted on 11/12/2012 5:57:23 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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