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Sarah Palin and Jim DeMint Disagree on Tone of GOP Primary
Conservative HQ ^ | January 12, 2012 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 01/12/2012 9:55:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 01/12/2012 9:56:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I usually agree with DeMint but here I think he is wrong! I don’t think the rhetoric needs to be “toned” down as far as Obama and his cronies are concerned...but I do think it needs to be toned down against each other in the fact that we need to be attacking Obama and the dems and what they are trying to do to this counrty. This is where all of the disgruntlement is...period. We need to be running against Obama and the dems and their systematic destruction of America and the American dream....not all this other BS. Just IMO


2 posted on 01/12/2012 10:02:04 PM PST by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with Richard Viguerie. He recognized in 2005/6 that the Washington Repubs (including W) were destroying the conservative movement. I was upset with Viguerie when I heard him speak, but, he was right.


3 posted on 01/12/2012 10:02:19 PM PST by nowheretohide (BTTT!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since Demint has endorsed the establishment candidate - of course he wants no effective criticism of that candidate.


4 posted on 01/12/2012 10:02:32 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jim DeMint sold out. He can go straight to hell.


5 posted on 01/12/2012 10:03:39 PM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: Antoninus
Jim DeMint sold out. He can go straight to hell.

Bingo!

Senator DeMint is simply afraid of the effect the truth concerning Romney will have on him.

I've lost a lot of respect for DeMint in this process.

He simply comes across as a hypocrite now.
6 posted on 01/12/2012 10:08:30 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: zimfam007

JANUARY 2007, Not January 2008-— Senator DeMint wrote, “We must elect a President in 2008 who is up to the task, and I need you to encourage Mitt to run. ...

Tuesday, Jan 09, 2007
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Boston, MA – Governor Mitt Romney announced today that Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC) will serve as a senior adviser to the Romney for President Exploratory Committee.

OCTOBER, 2007
Boston, MA – Today, Governor Mitt Romney named Governor Matt Blunt (R-MO), Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC) and Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH) as National Co-Chairs of the Romney for President campaign. As National Co-Chairs, they will serve as key advisers to Governor Romney and his national campaign.

Senator Jim DeMint said, “Governor Mitt Romney is the standard-bearer the Republican Party needs in 2008. His message of conservative change will bring our Party and Washington back to our most basic conservative values of fiscal discipline, smaller government and lower taxes. Governor Romney has the record and experience to bring true change to Washington.”

Romney and he are still close,”WashingtonPost.com Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) will appear as the special guest at a fundraiser next week to benefit South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint’s 2010 re-election”


7 posted on 01/12/2012 10:14:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well it was a-ok when all that negativity was aimed at Newt. Newt waited for 3 weeks but mittens just kept on being nasty. You reap what you sow.

Plus, I don't appreciate the Pubbies trying to hide all this negative information about mittens actual RECORD on JOB CREATION which he himself put front and center as the main reason he was the best qualified.

Mittens is just being asked to defend his record. All the hyperbole about attacking capitalism is just an Alinsky tactic to shift the focus from his record.

Kennedy used this issue to beat him years ago, so he has had ample time to prepare his defense. I am still waiting to hear specific verifiable details to explain his record.

If he can't effectively combat this little criticism now, there is no way he can withstand what the Obama machine will throw at him later.

This issue alone makes him unelectable, but as we know there is soooo much more. GOP E must really not care if we beat Obama or not, if they continue to push mittens.

8 posted on 01/12/2012 10:25:12 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with Sarah Palin.

Obama is raising more re-election funds than all of the GOP candidates combined.

Its not the time time to just flip a coin and hope your horse finishes first in this race.

You find out what kind of stamina it has, or if its even a horse.


9 posted on 01/12/2012 10:35:17 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems like the one now “wanting it to stop” is Mitt through his “fellers”.


10 posted on 01/12/2012 10:35:47 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems like the one now “wanting it to stop” is Mitt through his “fellers”.


11 posted on 01/12/2012 10:36:02 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems like the one now “wanting it to stop” is Mitt through his “fellers”.


12 posted on 01/12/2012 10:36:09 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: X-spurt

Don’t know what happened, I hit Post one time....


13 posted on 01/12/2012 10:37:47 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s unfortunate that Sarah Palin didn’t get into the race. She has more fight in her than all these candidates combined.


14 posted on 01/12/2012 10:45:46 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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To: zimfam007

Attacking romney IS attacking obama. There is nothing different about them except their names. Did you see that bain ADVISED obama on the auto bailout? Advised them to close all those dealerships, most of which were targeted Republicans?


15 posted on 01/12/2012 11:00:02 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I understand Demints position being in the senate and trying to build a stronger conservative caucus and not agitate the leadership.I also understand that Sarah is right on the money and is free to do as she wishes.I wish her the very best of luck and success.


16 posted on 01/12/2012 11:00:19 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: MestaMachine

Barack Obama - Now in White.

17 posted on 01/12/2012 11:04:58 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
DeMint may be the least corrupt among the members of the US Senate, but that is not saying much. It just grows on them.

The US Senate is the most consistently corrupted collection of putrifying treasonous slimeballs on the planet.

18 posted on 01/12/2012 11:18:12 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: zimfam007
The fact is that negative ads were being run against Newt in Iowa and NH.

The gloves are off now.

Now that we are in a conservative State, Romney doesn't want his record spoken about.

19 posted on 01/12/2012 11:18:26 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: dfwgator

Good one.


20 posted on 01/12/2012 11:30:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with Sarah Palin. The charges that Newt is making with his criticism of Romney’s association with Bain Capitol are a gift horse for him. It is a warning to the Romney team of what is coming. Romney will be hit with Axelrod’s attacks taken from the same area of discussion. Romney had better have his counter message ready when the attacks come.

The OWS have tried to set the stage for the kind of attack the DemonRATs have been building since the housing collapse. I don’t think the OWS effort has been successful. However it has planted a seed in the electorate’s mind. It has set the stage for the classic battle between Keynesian economics vs Hayekian economics. It is going to be class warfare and the rich and the Republican Party will be the scapegoat for all that has gone wrong for the middle class. I am sure they will use something similar to Bain Capitol and use it like a powder keg to blow up Romney’s candidacy if he becomes the nominee. The Bain Capitol activities and Romney’s association with it will be the center of focus for corporate greed and the evil of Hayekian economics. It will be their October Surprise. The DemonRATs are set to hang everything Bain Capitol represents around the Republican neck and it will sink everything we have worked for since Zer0 took office. We will be like the little woman who said, “We had to load up the U-Haul because we done lost our home.”

Rick Tyler, a former long-time aide to Mr. Gingrich who helped set up the super PAC Winning Our Future, comments about the criticism that Newt is anti-capitalist in his attacks against Romney:

“I’m a capitalist, I’m a conservative,” he said. “I’ve spent a lot of time defending free enterprise from a biblical perspective.”

“But Bain Capital,” he said, “did not fit the model of responsible corporate citizenship.” “If this is free enterprise, then conservatives should have nothing to do with it,” he said. “It is predatory paper-shuffling. Mitt Romney was engaged in the engineered destruction of free enterprise.”


21 posted on 01/12/2012 11:38:18 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Noticed once again Sara Palin on Fox News speaking unscripted. I never see “Ken Doll” on there from anywhere talking to anyone on Fox. Interesting that Clintons, Gore, Kerry and Zippy couldn’t do that before either. I guess scripted Smurfball questions would be too obvious.


22 posted on 01/12/2012 11:57:15 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: X-spurt

u nailed it. Don’t worry about the repetetive posts. Happens to everyone. But me. lol


23 posted on 01/12/2012 11:59:03 PM PST by TwoSwords (I'm mad as heaven and I'm not going to take it anymore.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somehow I don’t see in the future ANY republican saying “I simply cannot support this candidate.” What we will hear is “This is the candidate we need to get obama out of the white house and put this country back on the right track”. And we will hear this from Palin, Bachman, all three Bushes, Perry, Newt, Santorum, Huntsman, Rush, Hannity, Christy, Laura, Greta, Ann Coulter, et al.

If one highly public person would say “I’ll vote for Romney the day someone holds my dead hand and pushed the button for me” he or she could jump in the race the day before the convention and win it all. But we won’t be seeing that. Even Joe the Plumber will be on board the GOP FAST TRAIN TO DEFEAT.


24 posted on 01/13/2012 1:59:38 AM PST by Terry Mross (AN)
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To: Red Steel

DeMint has not endorsed a candidate.

What DeMint should do is declare himself a candidate.


25 posted on 01/13/2012 2:01:43 AM PST by Xymox4AD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny how no one in the media has mentioned that Sarah Palin is not supporting Mitt Romney while her 2008 running mate jumped in immediately to give his endorsement. Sarah is definitely smarter than both McCain and DeMint.


26 posted on 01/13/2012 3:58:54 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Vet each other but continue unrelenting attacks on Obama and Romney.


27 posted on 01/13/2012 4:01:53 AM PST by rintense
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DeMint has jumped in the toilet to drink in the
turd in the punchbowl = Mitt Romney.

DeMint is disgusting and will be ignored FOREVER.


28 posted on 01/13/2012 4:37:58 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: MestaMachine

‘Attacking romney IS attacking obama’

Exactly! We need to tell Gingrich to emphasize how Romney and Obama are alike, therefore challenging Romney is challenging obama - nothing wrong with that!
Use this theme -
‘We want our country to change direction. Romney will take us in the same direction as obama’


29 posted on 01/13/2012 4:44:59 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with DeMint. The rats are sitting back while Gingrich destroys Romney. It’s really Gingrich they want to pit against obama. Once Gingrich is the nominee the rat super pacs will rip him apart before the first debate. I still think Perry has the record to beat obama.


30 posted on 01/13/2012 4:45:06 AM PST by jersey117
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To: meadsjn

And that’s on their good days....


31 posted on 01/13/2012 5:00:03 AM PST by jennings2004 (Texas or Kansas?-- American geography is so confusing...at least they have some common border...:)).)
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To: MestaMachine

Citation?


32 posted on 01/13/2012 5:02:09 AM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: zimfam007

I agree with you. Go after BHO’s record and stop giving sound bites to the Rats for their campaign ads.


33 posted on 01/13/2012 5:10:18 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: sgtyork

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2832331/posts

Romney’s Former Firm Bain Advised Obama on Auto Bailout

It’s still in the sidebar.
Front Page News (News/Activism)

Romney’s Former Firm Bain Advised Obama on Auto Bailout


34 posted on 01/13/2012 5:11:30 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
I absolutely agree with Sarah. OWS was set up by the Dems to bring awareness to Wall St and greed, and I believe in anticipation of Obama running against Mitt. Bain will be portrayed by the Dems as greedy Wall St. and Mitt will not win the general election because of Bain. It doesn't matter how you define capitalism, it is a matter of how the Dems will define it.

The GOP was either too stupid and didn't vet Romney, or they are too stupid and don't want to face how Bain will be portrayed by Obama and his goons.

Sarah is correct in that this needs to be front and center, and Romney needs to provide answers. This is the only way we will know if Romney has a fighting chance in the general election.

Charles Kraut. also recently said something to the effect that Mitt better have a good response to Bain because Bain won't fly in the general election. One last thing, the GOP was stupid (duh) by trying to say Newt is attacking capitalism. Now what they have don't is to set up Obama to run against not only Mitt, but capitalism. Some of the stuff about Bain is not capitalism. Obama and socialism will beat Mitt and capitalism. We have got to let people know this isn't about Newt or Sarah attacking capitalism. This is about the GOP being too stupid to face they blew it. We can save our election by getting people to understand it isn't about capitalism, it is about the electability, or lack thereof, relative to Mitt. This is about an ad created in 1994 about Bain. It was never used against Mitt. Bain was gonna be Obama's trump card, and the GOP is trying to make Newt the fall guy for THEIR STUPIDITY. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdYx19temU8

35 posted on 01/13/2012 5:28:45 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I didn't see DeMint calling for Romney's campaign to stop the blitzkrieg against Newt in Iowa. I stand with Saint Sarah. DeMint has shown he's just another career politician.
36 posted on 01/13/2012 5:34:41 AM PST by McGruff (Go Nuclear Newt. I'll back you.)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

oops, messed up the link is last post.

An ad about Bain created in 1994.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdYx19temU8


37 posted on 01/13/2012 5:35:36 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: McGruff

Very true. Makes me wonder if the DeMint/Romney relationship is deeper than we want to acknowledge.


38 posted on 01/13/2012 5:36:38 AM PST by rintense
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To: jersey117

You know what? I don’t get it. LAST week, and for months before that, no one was happy because no Conservative candidates were laying a glove on romney. And now that someone HAS, so many of you are crying in your beer. Why is that?
romney is a shyster, a fraud, a liar, a hollow, hollow man. Newt Gingrich is saying the exact truth about romney. Why would you rather wait until he is nominated and then let the dems open his veins? Because they darn sure would.
Ain’t a damn thing they can tell anyone about Newt Gingrich. The man’s life is an open book. He has already been attacked repeatedly and dishonestly by both paul and romney. So why all these crocodile tears for a hollow man who claims virtue and righteousness when he has no virtues and there isn’t one righteous bone in his body?


39 posted on 01/13/2012 5:37:18 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

Everything you said about Mitt is true. My personal opinion is that they would rather have Ginrich as the nominee. They will run ads against him portraying obama as the good guy family man with his wife and two kids while showing Gingrich as the evil republican who ditched his wife. Then they’ll trot out Bill Clinton to discredit things he did as speaker while in his administration. You don’t think they will go after Newt the way they personally went after Ryan when obama was running for the Senate? If it’s so easy for Newt to take down Romney, what do you think a billion dollars and free media support will do to Newt? Rick Perry is the stronger candidate. He has executive experience as a sitting three term governor in the gun-friendly, energy-friendly great state of Texas where a million jobs were created during a downturn. I think he is the one we should be embracing in SC. IMHO.


40 posted on 01/13/2012 5:51:49 AM PST by jersey117
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To: nowheretohide

“I agree with Richard Viguerie. He recognized in 2005/6 that the Washington Repubs (including W) were destroying the conservative movement. I was upset with Viguerie when I heard him speak, but, he was right.”

I agree also.


41 posted on 01/13/2012 5:57:22 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Red Steel

When did he make an endorsement? I dont see anything on it.


42 posted on 01/13/2012 7:02:33 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Antoninus

How did he sell out?


43 posted on 01/13/2012 7:03:25 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Can you explain that first sentence?


44 posted on 01/13/2012 7:04:44 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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If on Twitter and inclined to do so, please Tweet this out:

Rich Mitt gets richer by throw ppl out of work. #GOP was stupid 2 equate Bain /w capitalism. Obama, socialism will win #election. PERCEPTION

I know there is a heated debate about what is and isn't capitalism. Bain is not about capitalism. It is about perception in the general election. Too many people are out of work and how the Bain thing will be portrayed by Obama and goons WILL NOT FLY in the general election.

WE WILL LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION with Mitt. The Dems have known about Bain and Sarah was right to tell us to VET ALL candidates.

45 posted on 01/13/2012 7:10:19 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: Raider Sam
You're right, it wasn't an endorsement.

Jim DeMint offers defense, not endorsement, of Mitt Romney

46 posted on 01/13/2012 10:27:29 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Raider Sam
How did he sell out?

He did the old non-endorsement, endorsement garbage:

Jim DeMint: Romney Will Win South Carolina

With friends like this, who needs enemies? He's either already bought and paid for by Romney, trying to do damage to the non-Romneys when it hurts the most, or he's one of the stupidest politicians on the planet.
47 posted on 01/13/2012 11:13:20 AM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: Antoninus

So by saying he thinks Romney will take his state and because he doesnt like the way Perry and Newt have been attacking Bain, that makes him a sellout?

But go ahead and write Demint off.


48 posted on 01/13/2012 11:50:56 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: upsdriver
It’s unfortunate that Sarah Palin didn’t get into the race. She has more fight in her than all these candidates combined.

__________________________________

Utter nonsense. If she had real strength she'd be in the race, giving it all her energy 24/7 like the rest of them. Getting paid to spout once in a while on TV is not fighting.

49 posted on 01/13/2012 11:55:27 AM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: moose-matson
"Utter nonsense. If she had real strength she'd be in the race, giving it all her energy 24/7 like the rest of them. Getting paid to spout once in a while on TV is not fighting. "

Right on, couldn't have said it better myself!

50 posted on 01/13/2012 12:13:25 PM PST by Reddon
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