Posted on 08/25/2010 5:14:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
We need to win, not with people/names/celebrities, but within the *ideas*..
Is there something wrong with being enthusiastic about supporting a Republican candidate? Have we been force-fed so many Presidential candidates whose turn it was, that we no longer can risk supporting a candidate that might be popular or likable?
People don’t vote for ideas. They vote for people. If they voted for ideas, Obama would have told them what his ideas were. He hid his ideas from voters even though some of us were able to ferret them out.
Sarah Palin has stated her ideas and her values plainly. What has not sold as well, is her persona. Many in the 60s generation rebelled against those ideas about personal responsibility, faith, constancy, and her perception of America as an exceptional place. But that is not what they criticize about her. They criticize her hair style, the tenor of her voice, her lexicon, her daughter’s boyfriend, and things Tina Fey said.
I would agree that there’s a cult of personality about Sarah Palin, but it’s not among her supporters, it’s among her critics.
“We need to win, not with people/names/celebrities, but within the *ideas* that people [our leaders in particular] use in their lives.....”
I personally would rather a STRONG ELECTABLE male would come to the forefront in the Conservative candidate population, but at this point I see NONE. Right now Sarah Palin looks like the only one with the stones to step forward and offer to LEAD, and with the views and goals for the Nation that I could support.
>Please fill us in on your candidate for 2012.
Honestly, a Jan Brewer / (Ron Paul or Mark Levin) ticket would be ideal.
Mrs. Brewer has shown that she WILL operate against the Invasion.
Mark Levin, being a conservative, Constitutionalist lawyer would, IMO, be good as President of the Senate.
Ron Paul has some very good points/positions for domestic policy (the Federal Reserve does need to be audited... and that would make a huge outcry for it to be abolished; he’s also right that marijuana [and other ‘controlled substances’] aren’t validly under Federal regulation [remember we needed a Constitutional amendment to give them that power over alcohol].)
>And we’re all tired of the “it’s too early” cop-out.
Who is copping out?
i am not a Palinbot. i agree with 75-80%. But I trust her more than that and much more than anyone else. What she has been through and how she has handled it. The MSM and Libs-—they dont have anything on her——That is GOLD for a conservative.
The debates in IA , NH, SC etc will be big of course. I imagine these will tell the tale and confirm if SP can make good with big boys. I think she will do just fine, probably even better.
>Sarah Palin is more qualified right now than Barack Obama is, after twenty months of OJT.
Aw hell, *I* am more qualified after spending dozens of hours playing the ‘Civilization’ & ‘Sim-ity’ series of games than Obama is after his OJT.
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Because it is relevent and, in spite of your wishes it will not go away. It was a bone-headed move accomplished in a poorly delivered, occasionally rambling and dis-jointed speech. She handed the opposition a sledge hammer wrapped in a bow. They will beat her relentlessly with it. It will keep her from winning and if she's nominated we're screwed.
This forum is not representative of the majority of American thinking. If it were then we would not have an uber-liberal house, senate and potus. And, even given the conservative nature of this forum, there is significant disagreement concerning her qualifications and electability.
You don't like it but that's the fact of it.
I don’t trust ANY of them.
So you’ve taken pissant’s place, have you? Are you a misogynist, too?
Only Sarah knows, but unless someone else better comes along in the next couple of years, I’ll be happy to support her for President.
An adolescent response that plays the palinite version of the race card (if you don’t support palin for president then you must hate women - yep it is as stupid as it sounds)...now why am I not surprised?
>A one winged shark can only swim in circles either spiroling up or down but never moving forward.
You mean “spiraling;” and just so you know it’s a whimsical screen-name not a personality-descriptor.
>I like Sarah because she spoke about heart felt opinions on the issues that we were concerned about.
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>Then again, I like others were extremely disappointed in her paying homage to Juan McSlime just because he propelled her to the national stage.
Indeed, then you know why I am not enthusiastic about “Palin as Preident;” if you look at my reasoning it’s much more an indictment against the ‘Palinites’ (rabid supporters) than her herself.
Regan was/is popular, I think, not because he “got things done” (technically Obama’s “getting things done”) but because he was able to bring people together on the basis of conservative ideas/ideals; he wasn’t about “being President” he was about “doing right.” He wasn’t perfect by any means (he had to “play politics” with Congress and allow them some big-spending to get some thing done).
>I do not do celebrity. Never watched Survivor, American Idol or the rest of the endless line of crap being foisted upon the public as entertainment, much less, reality entertainment.
Nor have i. Though I do enjoy a good sci-fi or fantasy romp in entertainment.
>In all cases when I size someone up for my personal judgment, I look to their eyes while they are speaking. It is true that it is the gateway to the soul.
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>If you don’t like her, I can accept that but impugning those who like her, for whatever reason only goes to show you are simply spiroling downwards.
I’m not impugning on those who like her; but on those who like her *because* of that very celebrity status (or thusly elevate her to celebrity status because they like her).
Watching whatshername sitting in for O’Reilly debating with a couple of Dems. She asked the female some question about obama, and the answer to her queston began: “Well, Sarah Palin didn’t......” I thought, “Good grief, Sarah is being compared to the president in order to make a political point?” She’s not even running for anything and does not even hold any political office. She is just a private citizen. Laughable.
You’re right. Only she knows for sure. She’s doing EXACTLY what she wants to do for now.
You missed my point; which isn't that I think she'd do poorly... but rather that many people would accept/endorse/give-a-free-pass-to her because she's Sarah Palin/Republican/not-Obama. That is, I think it is a very sad state for [any appreciable portion of] the electorate to be in.
Amazing, you name the actual cult figure known as Ron Paul as your preference, the man that merely has a cult following and no hopes of ever escaping that little congressional district, even after 28 years in politics and repeated, desperate attempts for a chance, any chance to move to a bigger desk, because outside of his bizarre cultish followers, he has nothing and no one.
Palin is a real life politician with grown up support.
July 16, 2010 GALLUP POLLING
Palin’s 76% Favorable Among Republicans Tops Others in GOP. Former Alaska governor’s image more mixed among all Americansby Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ — Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is the best known and most positively rated of five possible contenders for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Her 76% favorable rating among Republicans is higher than those for Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, and Bobby Jindal.
Huckabee and Gingrich have similar 64% to 65% favorable ratings among Republicans, Romney has a lower 54% rating, and Jindal, less well known even to Republicans, has the lowest positive rating of the five.
Wow. How do you get that out of what I said? In fat, I didn't say one thing about liking her or disliking her.
Did I get that right?
No.
It’s difficult for us Palinites to understand the deep thought and wisdom that you TRUE conservatives possess, so you have to explain it to us in detail.
Otherwise, we’re just too STUPID to get it.
Dad, is that you? I mean with your ascribing something I didn't say and then verbally attacking based on what I didn't say you could easily be him...
You know, I hear that kind of CRAP from MSNBC and the rest of the liberals all the time.
You mean the crap you're pulling on me?
Let me guess, you’re one of the 1% of republican primary voters that voted for Duncan Hunter last election and you are still angry about it?
Who is Duncan Hunter? I actually did hold-my-nose and vote MCain... but I don't think I'll be doing any more compromises with my voting. (Someone once observed that to compromise between good and evil works only for evil's benefit.)
By all means, share your pearls of wisdom and point us to the leader that has been busting obama’s chops for the last year. Outside of DeMint, nobody else is even close.
I actually like DeMint a lot for what he's done.
Laura Ingraham. Keen observation, WVNan!!
I saw that too, but didn't give it a thought. You are so right.
Sadly I’m Only 28... otherwise, well, I’d be running on a platform of “Extreme Constitutionalism!” that would result in:
a) No Department of Energy
b) No Department of Education
c) No Department of Agriculture
d) No NASA (some claim it necessary for defense, if so put it under the appropriate military branch)
e) No BATFE
f) No Air Force (fold them into the Army from whence they came: the Army Air Corp; or amend the Constitution to allow an Air Force — Marines are under the Navy which is Constitutionally authorized.)
g) Reduction in the Department of Transportation to little more than maintaining federal roads, rails & bridges.
h) No Department of Labor
i) No Environmental Protection Agency
j) No Center for Disease Control
k) No Medicare
l) No Medicaid
m) No Social Security
n) No Department of Health and Human Services
o) No Department of Housing and Urban Development
p) No Drug Enforcement Administration
q) No Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
r) No Bureau of Industry and Security
s) No FEMA
t) No Federal Communications Commission
u) No Federal Student Aid
v) No Food and Drug Administration
w) No Internal Revenue Service
x) No Securities and Exchange Commission
y) No Selective Service System
z) No Occupational Safety & Health Administration
...and I ran out of letters.
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